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OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member (regular planning & admin) Conference Call - Tue 2013_12_03

This is a regular OOR Team meeting. We will be pick up from our last monthly OOR team confcall on 2013_11_05 and continue to use this meeting to work up plans and administrative details for the OOR Team, and to discuss how we will be supporting the upcoming OntologySummit2014.

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 3-Dec-2013
  • Start 7:00am PST / 10:00am EST / 4:00pm CET / 1500 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
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  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)

Agenda Ideas

  • Review OOR priorities, focus and urgent item(s)
    • urgent items?
    • action plans - short/medium term
  • scheduling of OOR Events
    • focus for the Tue 2013.12.10 OOR-Hackathon n.05 session
    • ... planning for more OOR session
  • OOR support for Ontology Summit 2014
  • Member activities updates
  • ... (add yours)

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Peter P. Yim took the chair and welcome everyone
  • Peter P. Yim also volunteered to collate the notes, but urged everyone to capture their thoughts and document them on the chat board, as usual.
  • review and adopt agenda
  • Urgent items or quick announcements

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Key discussion:

Ref: our list of "Priorities & Most Critical Tasks At Hand" - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH

3.1 Review OOR priorities and focus

  • there is general consensus we would change to a more bottom-up approach (rather than the "top-down" approach we have been taking) ...   
    • we will encourage each oor node project to develop (colore, ontohub, socop, oor public instance, etc.) on their own, and coordinate the "team" effort through the use of a shared set of metadata, API and the UI (e.g. how people download (or even upload) ontologies, etc.)
    • The key is to ensure that each of the ontology repository projects in OOR are interoperable from the software perspective, uniform in the GUI, and they use a shared approach to ontology metadata
    • initially (prior to federation mechanisms being in place) we will make <oor.net> to be an ontology registry, which then links to the ontologies in the actual ontology repository where the ontology is described
    • actions will be focused on developing three things (hopefully within the next 3 months): the set of metadata, the API, and some shared thoughts on the UI
    • after that, we will focus on building up content with each OOR node tackling the domain(s) they are best with, and put in a concerted effort towards OOR adoption
  • action plans - medium/long term
    • collaboration and synergies with IAOA
    • keeping OOR relevant
    • ... and invigorated

3.2 scheduling of OOR Events'

  • Events planned/scheduled so far ...
    • 2013_09_10 - Tuesday: OOR Hackathon-IV: The "OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API - 4" Hackathon Session - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Till Mossakowski - OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_09_10    ... on "alignment"
    • a "community session on "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories", involving other repository stewards hopefully, on "Ontology Categories" - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2013-08/msg00002.html - still need to fix a date
    • the regular (monthly) OOR Team meeting for planning and admin discussions - 1st Tuesday of each month
    • the monthly Hackathon sessions - 2nd Tuesday of each month
    • a session on "common UI for OOR instances" ...?
    • (periodic) workshop on metadata
    • (periodic) session on architecture
    • (periodic) session on strategy and tactics
    • focus for the Tue 2013.12.10 OOR-Hackathon n.05 session
      • (a) ontologies to support API4KBs and OntoIOp by Tara Athan and Elisa Kendall - see: http://www.omgwiki.org/API4KB/doku.php?id=api4kb_ontologies
      • (b) the OOR API and its current realisation in OntoIOp
      • (c) integrating, or providing the API to incorporate OMV (extensions thereof; or even some generic set of metadata for an ontology) to an OOR (actually, open or non-open.)
      • (d) federation
      • (e) ... more ideas?

3.3 OOR and our support for the upcoming Ontology Summit 2014

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...

  • 3.3 Member activities updates - Review: members and OOR-related activities (list from 2013.05.21) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO - BioPortal updates
    • NEU - Gatekeeper, ...
    • Raytheon-BBN - federation, ...
    • UToronto - COLORE
      • Ryerson (see above: Bart Gajderowicz has joined MichaelGruninger's team at U of Toronto soon)
    • Bremen - Ontohub
    • Mathet
    • SOCoP_INTEROP - SOCoP-OOR
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Metadata
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • content drive
    • Funding

4. Prior Discussions:

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months

  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place

... to provide synergies for all.

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like

4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)

  • (discussion 2011.05.06):
    • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
  • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
    • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
  • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...
    • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:
      • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents
      • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR
  • 4.5 OOR instances OOR: status update and coordination ... (deferred discussion of this item)
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ontohub, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Chat transcript from room: oor_20131203

2013-12-03 GMT-08:00 [PST]

[6:56] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member Meeting - Tue 2013_12_03

This is a regular monthly planning & admin Conference Call

session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_12_03

Attendees: Ken Baclawski, Mike Bennett (joined late), Mike Dean, Peter P. Yim (chair/scribe)

Proceedings:

[7:08] Peter P. Yim: == discussion on what we should focus on at the OOR-Hackathon n.05 (slated for next Tuesday)

[7:15] Peter P. Yim: ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_12_03#nid41WY

(a) ontologies to support API4KBs and OntoIOp by Tara Athan and Elisa Kendall

- see: http://www.omgwiki.org/API4KB/doku.php?id=api4kb_ontologies (41WZ)

(b) the OOR API and its current realisation in OntoIOp (41X0)

(c) integrating, or providing the API to incorporate OMV (extensions thereof; or even some generic set of metadata

for an ontology) to an OOR (actually, open or non-open.) (41X1)

(d) federation (42CX)

(e) ... more ideas? (41X2)

[7:18] Peter P. Yim: Ken: possibilities (e) debug why the SOCoP-OOR is down, (f) debug when the O&M ontology ran

into parsing error with the SOCoP-OOR

[7:27] Peter P. Yim: [consensus] Ken / Mike / Peter: let's do this next Tuesday (Dec-10) (e) & (f) for the OOR-Hackathon n.05

[7:31] Peter P. Yim: [action] Peter will try to restart the SOCoP-OOR (which is down again now) ... or restore the vm image ... [done. system rebooted, and the SOCoP-OOR is operational again.--ppy/2013.12.08 ]

[7:32] Ken Baclawski: [re next Tuesday's Hackathon n.05 session (which is supposedly co-chaired by Ken & Till)] If Till

attends the session, then it would be helpful if he could tell us about his experience with mirroring the SOCoP ontologies

especially with regard to the issue of federation. However, the session would not be addressing federation as one of its objectives.

[7:33] Ken Baclawski: I will write up (e) and (f) on the Hackathon wiki page.

[7:29] Peter P. Yim: == discussion on who or whether we will still stand up a bioportal-based OOR instance when the next

revision level of the vm image comes out

[7:29] Peter P. Yim: if at all, I suggest that it should be done on AWS (the amazon cloud)

[7:40] Ken Baclawski: Would it make sense to try basing OOR on the OntoHub code rather than on BioPortal code?

[7:48] Peter P. Yim: another possibility is to cancel the Hackathon n.05 session, and use the Tue Dec-10 meeting to discuss

the "basing OOR on the OntoHub code" possibility

[7:48] Peter P. Yim: [action] Ken will ping Till about this

[7:51] Peter P. Yim: [consensus] unless we feel we need another session, we will pause after the Dec-10 session, and put the full force of the OOR team to support Ontology Summit 2014 ... that means, after the Dec-10 OOR meeting, the next one will be in ~May-2014 (of course, there may be joint OOR-OntologySummit activities in the interim, while Ontology Summit 2014 is in session.)

[7:54] Peter P. Yim: Ken will advise Peter on next Tuesday's session agenda (so he can create the session page for it) by this Friday, hopefully.

[7:56] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 7:55am PST --

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

6. Action items:

  • Peter will try to restart the SOCoP-OOR instance again.
  • Ken will confer with Till, and confirm to Peter on the agenda for the next OOR call for Tue Dec-10.

7. Any Other Business:

  • [consensus] unless we feel we need another session, we will pause after the Dec-10 session, and put the full force of the OOR team to support Ontology Summit 2014 ... that means, after the Dec-10 OOR meeting, the next one will be in ~May-2014 (of course, there may be joint OOR-OntologySummit activities in the interim, while Ontology Summit 2014 is in session.)

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • Next Tuesday: Tue 2013_12_10 - OOR Hackathon n.05 or discussion on future of the OOR code-base - co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Till Mossakowski
    • unless we feel we need another session, we will pause after the Dec-10 session, and put the full force of the OOR team to support Ontology Summit 2014 ... that means, after the Dec-10 OOR meeting, the next one will be in ~May-2014 (of course, there may be joint OOR-OntologySummit activities in the interim, while Ontology Summit 2014 is in session.)
    • ... please mark your calendars and make sure you can come!
  • Call adjourned at: 7:55 am PST

--

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2013.12.03-8:11am PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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