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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Development Workshop-VI - Tue 2011_11_22
This is our "Getting OOR Development Going - Take VI" workshop which we will devote to the topic of how we should be organized to getting real OOR-related open source software development work going ...
Topic: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take VI"
Session Chair: MikeDean
Conference Call Details
- Date: Tuesday, 22-Nov-2011
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Attendees
- Attended:
- Mike Dean (chair)
- Peter P. Yim (scribe)
- Ken Baclawski
- Todd Schneider
- Michael Grüninger
- Brian Davis
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Agenda Ideas
please insert any additional items below (along with your name for follow-up purposes)
- Identifying issues that are holding back the OOR-oss-dev work
- Review what it takes to develop upon BioPortal's existing development framework
- Refine how we should move development forward from here
- Task distribution and getting organized
- Action planning (with consensus milestones)
- ... (please add to the above)
Agenda & Proceedings
- audio recording of the session [ 1:15:41 ; mp3 ; 8.66 MB ]
- chat-transcript of this session
1. Meeting called to order:
- Mike Dean takes the chair and welcome everyone
- review and adopt agenda
- Peter P. Yim volunteered to take notes
2. Roll Call:
- see above
- welcome and intro of new member(s) (as needed)
- Brian Davis from caBIG's ORWG joined us and made an intro of ORWG and himself
3. Status Review and Discussion:
- Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list ... (skipped)
4. Key items for review and discussion today
Topic: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take VI"
- identifying issues that are holding back the OOR-dev work
- Mike Dean: issues: limited (or no) time and funding
- Todd Schneider: What to code or fix.
- Mike Dean: issues: architectural uncertainty (being resolved)
- Michael Grüninger: the current implementation restricts ontologies to be specified in OWL
- Peter P. Yim: being a totally volunteered project does present a challenge
- Mike Dean: issues: platform distribution/installation changes (being resolved)
- Issues we could discuss at the Nov-29 joint NCBO-OOR session
- Mike Dean: status of export/import/upgrade process for NCBO appliance
- Mike Dean: availability of Java, Ruby, or other client stubs for invoking BioPortal REST services
- Todd Schneider: BioPortal's Roadmap or priorities
- Peter P. Yim: clearly identify functionalities that either the NCBO or the OOR development team will be pursuing
- Mike Dean: federation (BBN is happy to contribute their earlier code)
- Mike Dean: which specific "WebTools" package(s) is Paul Alexander using
- Peter P. Yim: I would still hope aligning architecture and API and creating synergies would still be the main focus for that session
- Refine how we should move development forward from here
- MikeDean/2011.11.08: suggest starting a wiki page for OOR_DeveloperTools to share some of the experience and provide some consensus on tools to use
- KenBaclawski/2011.11.08: it would be helpful to find out from Paul Alexander which specific "WebTools" package(s) he is using ... question for the Nov-29 session (if not sooner)
- Task distribution and getting organized - (deferred)
- ...
- Action planning (with consensus milestones)
- [2011.11.08] Mike Dean will look through the current BioPortal project to see what they are using; which will eventually get us to a reference developer platform for OOR developers
- [2011.11.08] Develop a "guideline on how to develop a language module" and the API for language module developers to plug into [suggested by Eric - Ken & Todd to work on]
- [2011.11.08] Preparation for the Nov-29 session: all developers are requested to have reviewed the BioPortal "tab" development criteria, and hopefully, has done a "hello world" tab, prior to this session.
- ref. details at: at: http://palexander.posterous.com/extending-bioportals-rails-ui
- ref. also: discussion as captured in the in-session chat
5. Getting Organized:
- (discussion deferred)
6. Action items:
- [2011.11.22]: Peter to start a Nov-29 preparation email thread with Ken, Todd, Ray et al. to tie down the agenda for the 11/29 session
- [2011.11.22]: Brian will post wiki link to HaroldSolbrig's metadata cross-walk work ... and Michael will invite Harold to present that work on Dec-13 for us
7. Any Other Business:
8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:
- Next Meetings:
- 2011_11_29: Joint OOR-NCBO "Architecture-API" session - co-chair: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_29
- 2011_12_06: regular OOR team meeting - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_12_06
- 2011_12_13: OOR-metadata workshop take-V - chair: Michael Grüninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_12_13
- Call adjourned at: 9:51 am PST
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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2011.11.08-10:03am PST
All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.
Resources
- homepage - OpenOntologyRepository - http://OpenOntologyRepository.org
- OOR Charter - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.
- "Ontology Repository" Definition - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"
- Team mailling list:
- OOR-Team discussion: [ oor-forum ] message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/
- OOR-Users discussion and support: [ oor-users ] message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-users/
- Developers mailling list: [ oor-dev ] message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/
- proceedings of our previous meetings, panel discussions and workshops
- the Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussions:
- 2008_02_28 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Ontology Registry and Repository Technology & Infrastructure Landscape" - Co-chairs: Leo Obrst & Frank Olken; Panelists: Bruce Bargmeyer, Mike Dean, Mark Musen, Farrukh Najmi & Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2008_02_28
- 2008_03_27 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-1" - Chair: Leo Obrst & Fabian Neuhaus; Panelists: William Bug, Evan Wallace, JohnLMcCarthy, Ken Baclawski, Peter Benson & Rex Brooks - ConferenceCall_2008_03_27
- 2008_04_03 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-2" - Chair: Leo Obrst & Fabian Neuhaus; Panelists: Doug Lenat, Deke Smith, Marcia Zeng, Denise Bedford, Pat Hayes, Mala Mehrotra & Rob Raskin - ConferenceCall_2008_04_03
- 2008_04_10 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR" - Co-chairs: Barry Smith & Michael Grüninger; Panelists: Michael Grüninger, Peter Haase, Natasha Noy & Elisa Kendall - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10
- the OOR Development panel sessions:
- 2008_08_22 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground: Identifying Synergies & Gaps" (Take-1) - Chair: Leo Obrst; Panelists: Mike Dean, Mark Musen, Li Ding, Bruce Bargmeyer & Bill Andersen - ConferenceCall_2008_08_22
- 2009_02_19 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground (Take-2): the work begins" - Chair: Todd Schneider; Panelists: Mark Musen, Natasha Noy, Mike Dean, Paul Buitelaar / Andreas Harth, Mathieu Daquin, Ken Baclawski, Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2009_02_19
- 2009_07_16 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Integrated tools for ontology development and management: A field guide to the Stanford technology" - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Tania Tudorache, Tim Redmond, Natasha Noy - ConferenceCall_2009_07_16
- 2009_07_30 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "BioPortal and related Ontology Repository Implementations and Development" (Take-3) - Chair: Natasha Noy - Panelists: Carlos Rueda, Paul Alexander, John Graybeal, Mike Dean, StephenGranite, AlexGarcia, Ken Baclawski - ConferenceCall_2009_07_30
- 2010_02_19 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Coordinating our Open Ontology Repository Software Development" - Chair: Mike Dean - Panelists: Jim Chatigny, Michael Grüninger, Ken Baclawski, Natasha Noy - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_02_19
- 2010_04_01 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog Panel Session: "OOR Use Cases - Take-3" - Chair: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - Panelists: Todd Schneider, Matthew Hettinger, Ken Baclawski and Máximo Gurméndez - ConferenceCall_2010_04_01
- 2010_09_10 - Friday: Joint SIO-OOR-Ontolog Panel Discussion: "Common Logic (CL) Support for OOR" - Chair: John F. Sowa - Panelists: JohnBateman-TillMossakowski, Michael Grüninger, Cameron Ross, Adam Pease, Pat Hayes - ConferenceCall_2010_09_10
- 2010_09_17 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IV" Workshop - Co-chairs: Todd Schneider & Michael Grüninger - Panelists: Todd Schneider, Mike Dean, Natasha Noy, Immanuel Normann, Ken Baclawski, Michael Grüninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_09_17
- 2010_10_15 - Friday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call - discussion on the (post-BioPortal fork) OOR Architecture and API - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_10_15
- 2010_11_19 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "(Post-BioPortal fork) OOR Architecture and API - Take-II" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Michael Grüninger - Panelists: KenBaclawski+ToddSchneider, AldoGangemi+AlessandroAdamou, JouniTuominen+KimViljanen, Eric Chan - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_11_19
- 2011_03_04 - Friday: OOR "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-I" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_04
- 2011_03_11 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-II" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_11
- 2011_03_18 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-I - Chair: Michael Grüninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18
- 2011_03_25 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-III" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_25
- 2011_04_22 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-IV" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_04_22
- 2011_05_13 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-II - Chair: Michael Grüninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_13
- 2011_05_20 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-V" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_20
- 2011_05_27 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-III - Chair: Michael Grüninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_27
- 2011_06_17 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VI" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_06_17
- 2011_09_13 - Tuesday: Joint NCBO-OOR Team Meeting - "Kicking-off the Next Phase of Collaboration" - Co-chairs: Ray Fergerson & Peter P. Yim - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13
- 2011_09_20 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VII" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_20
- 2011_10_11 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VII" - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_11
- 2011_10_18 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-IV - Chair: Michael Grüninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_18
- 2011_11_08 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-V" Workshop - Chair: Mike Dean - "Getting OOR Development going, on Eclipse?" - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_08
- 2011_11_22 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-VI" Workshop - Chair: Mike Dean - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_22
- the OOR-IPR mini-series:
- 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
- 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
- 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30
- the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
- 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
- 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
- OntologySummit2008 homepage
- OntologySummit2008_Communique
- OntologySummit2008/FaceToFaceAgenda & Proceedings
- The OOR Project Presentation (delivered at the Ontology Summit 2008 face-to-face workshop)
- [ ontology-summit ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2008-01/ (~5 months exchanges starting from Jan-2008)
- Our key content pages:
- OpenOntologyRepository_Scope
- OpenOntologyRepository_Organization
- OpenOntologyRepository_Process
- OpenOntologyRepository_Policy
- OpenOntologyRepository_IPR
- OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement
- OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases
- OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture
- OpenOntologyRepository_Approach
- OpenOntologyRepository_Roadmap
- OpenOntologyRepository_Plan
- OpenOntologyRepository_Funding
- OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchIssues
- OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchActivity
- OpenOntologyRepository_Development
- OpenOntologyRepository_Metadata
- OOR/ActiveMemberContribution
- OOR Project site at SemWebCentral - http://oor.semwebcentral.org
- Public instances of OOR - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies) ... we are in process to standing up:
- OOR_SandBox - http://oor-03.cim3.net - http://sandbox.oor.net/
- OOR_DevBox - http://oor-01.cim3.net - http://dev.oor.net/
- NCBO - BioPortal
- BioPortal's [bioontology-support] mailing list - see: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/bioontology-support
- NCBO-OOR development documentation - http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO-OOR_Development