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OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member (regular planning & admin) Conference Call - Tue 2013_11_05

This is a regular OOR Team meeting. We will be pick up from our last monthly OOR team confcall on 2013_10_01 and continue to use this meeting to work up plans and administrative details for the OOR Team for the rest of 2013.

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 5-Nov-2013
  • Start 7:00am PST / 10:00am EST / 4:00pm CET / 1500 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
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Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)

Agenda Ideas

  • Review OOR priorities and focus
    • action plans - short/medium term
  • current SOCoP-OOR issues
    • and discussion on hosting/maintenance of OOR instances
  • scheduling of OOR Events
  • Member activities updates
  • ... (add yours)

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Ken Baclawski took the chair and welcome everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to collate the notes, but urged everyone to capture their thoughts and document them on the chat board, as usual.
  • review and adopt agenda
  • Urgent items or quick announcements

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Key discussion:

Ref: our list of "Priorities & Most Critical Tasks At Hand" - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH

3.1 Review OOR priorities and focus

  • there is general consensus we would change to a more bottom-up approach (rather than the "top-down" approach we have been taking) ...   
    • we will encourage each oor node project to develop (colore, ontohub, socop, oor public instance, etc.) on their own, and coordinate the "team" effort through the use of a shared set of metadata, API and the UI (e.g. how people download (or even upload) ontologies, etc.)
    • The key is to ensure that each of the ontology repository projects in OOR are interoperable from the software perspective, uniform in the GUI, and they use a shared approach to ontology metadata
    • initially (prior to federation mechanisms being in place) we will make <oor.net> to be an ontology registry, which then links to the ontologies in the actual ontology repository where the ontology is described
    • actions will be focused on developing three things (hopefully within the next 3 months): the set of metadata, the API, and some shared thoughts on the UI
    • after that, we will focus on building up content with each OOR node tackling the domain(s) they are best with, and put in a concerted effort towards OOR adoption
  • current SOCoP-OOR issues
    • and discussion on hosting/maintenance of OOR instances
  • action plans - medium/long term
    • collaboration and synergies with IAOA
    • keeping OOR relevant
    • ... and invigorated

3.2 scheduling of OOR Events'

  • Events planned/scheduled so far ...
    • 2013_09_10 - Tuesday: OOR Hackathon-IV: The "OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API - 4" Hackathon Session - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Till Mossakowski - OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_09_10    ... on "alignment"
    • a "community session on "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories", involving other repository stewards hopefully, on "Ontology Categories" - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2013-08/msg00002.html - still need to fix a date
    • the regular (monthly) OOR Team meeting for planning and admin discussions - 1st Tuesday of each month
    • the monthly Hackathon sessions - 2nd Tuesday of each month
    • a session on "common UI for OOR instances" ...?
    • (periodic) workshop on metadata
    • (periodic) session on architecture
    • (periodic) session on strategy and tactics

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...

  • 3.3 Member activities updates - Review: members and OOR-related activities (list from 2013.05.21) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO - BioPortal updates
    • NEU - Gatekeeper, ...
    • Raytheon-BBN - federation, ...
    • UToronto - COLORE
      • Ryerson (see above: Bart Gajderowicz has joined MichaelGruninger's team at U of Toronto soon)
    • Bremen - Ontohub
    • Mathet
    • SOCoP_INTEROP - SOCoP-OOR
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Metadata
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • content drive
    • Funding

4. Prior Discussions:

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months

  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place

... to provide synergies for all.

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like

4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)

  • (discussion 2011.05.06):
    • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
  • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
    • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
  • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...
    • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:
      • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents
      • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR
  • 4.5 OOR instances OOR: status update and coordination ... (deferred discussion of this item)
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ontohub, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript [ here].

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Chat transcript from room: oor_20131105

2013-11-05 GMT-08:00 [PST]

[6:54] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member Meeting - Tue 2013_11_05

This is a regular monthly planning & admin Conference Call

session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_11_05

Attendees: Ken Baclawski (chair), Michael Grüninger, Peter P. Yim (scribe), Todd Schneider

Proceedings:

[6:57] Ken Baclawski: Good morning!

[6:58] Peter P. Yim: Hi Ken ... don't see you on the phone bridge yet!?

[7:02] Ken Baclawski: re: potential collaborators - take a look at: Asset Description Metadata Schema (ADMS) - https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/home

[7:05] Peter P. Yim: Ken: this was previously mentioned in one of JeanneHolm's talks

[7:--] Michael Grüninger / Peter P. Yim: see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_Description_Metadata_Schema & www.w3.org/TR/vocab-adms/?

[7:05] Peter P. Yim: Michael: I'll be at the ISO sc32 / 11179 meeting shortly, and can see what they think about this too

[7:13] Peter P. Yim / Ken Baclawski: they run a repository/registry too

- see also https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/asset_release/adms#download-links ... and it's even federated!

[7:16] Ken Baclawski: Another related standard is Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records (FRBR), which

does not claim to be a data model at all, yet has some good ideas and it can easily be translated to UML. http://www.ifla.org/node/949

[7:18] Ken Baclawski: see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_Requirements_for_Bibliographic_Records

[7:27] Ken Baclawski: How do we determine the requirements and then determine the extent to which these other

communities have resources we can use. Perhaps a hackathon?

[7:59] Peter P. Yim: == re SOCoP-OOR issue

[8:02] Peter P. Yim: this SOCoP-OOR instance has been down since Oct-22, and it's still not recovered yet ... reflecting

huge issues we are having in hosting and maintaining BioPortal-based OOR instances (now, and more so in the future)

[8:02] Peter P. Yim / Ken Baclawski: we will address the SOCoP-OOR instance next Monday (Nov-11, when we can meet with

Shinya Yamada and Tejas Parikh, when both of them are back from their traveling) and follow-up from there

[8:03] Peter P. Yim: whether or not we should continue to support a SOCoP-OOR instance ... or more generically, the

various BioPortal-based OOR instances in the long run, should be discussed (not today)

[8:03] Peter P. Yim: we also need to find out if SOCoP have plans or resources to continue supporting a SOCoP-OOR, especially

in view of the RPI's plan to stand up a similar ontology repository (with collaboration/support from Stanford too)

[8:04] Peter P. Yim: Peter also announced plans to start paring down support activities in anticipation of his

retirement (possibly in 6~12 months)

[8:06] Peter P. Yim: @Ken: I still need a session plan from you and Till for the Nov-12 OOR-Hackathon n.05 ... please advise.

[8:22] Ken Baclawski: I will check with Till. Thanks for reminding me.

[8:05] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:03am PST --

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

6. Action items:

...

7. Any Other Business:

  • ...

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • Next Tuesday: Tue 2013_11_12 - OOR Hackathon n.05 - topic? - co-chairs: Till Mossakowski & Ken Baclawski
    • also, see [ above]
    • ... please mark your calendars and make sure you can come!
  • Call adjourned at: 8:03 am PDT

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2013.11.05-11:18am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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