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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning" Discussion Session - Tue 2012_12_04

This is a regular monthly OOR Team meeting. Besides covering the nominal team status review and planning, we will continue the "OOR Strategy, tactics and action planning" discussion, and pick up from where we left off at OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_11_20

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 4-Dec-2012
  • Start Time: 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC
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Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)

Agenda Ideas

  • regular OOR team status review
  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help

put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place.

  • plan, confirm and make additions to the OOR event calendar
  • supporting and leveraging Ontology Summit 2013
  • ... (add yours)

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Mike Dean took the chair and welcome everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to collate the notes, but urged everyone to capture their thoughts and document them on the chat board, as usual.
  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Key discussion:

  • 3.1 Team priority: Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list
    • ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH
    • consider adding to the list work that address the two focused areas identified in the recent strategic planning discussion
      • developing reference practices, and the technology involved, to support OOR-augmented OntologyBasedStandards
      • developing a reference practice, and the technology involved, to support an OOR-augmented "big data" application (such as "tackling research data" ref.)
    • Mike Dean will draft out the modifications, and bring up for review at the next call.
  • 3.2 Announcements & Reports
  • Various members making brief reports on relevant events and activities
    • upcoming Ontology Summit 2013 ... [MichaelGruninger / PeterYim]
      • (pre-launch) community brainstorm and planning - Thu 2012.12.13 - starting 9:30am PST / 12:30pm EST / 6:30pm CET / 17:30 GMT/UTC
      • first organizing committee meeting - Fri 2012.12.14 - starting 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET / 16:00 GMT/UTC
      • Ontology Summit 2013 Launch Event - Thu 2013.01.17 - starting 9:30am PST / 12:30pm EST / 6:30pm CET / 17:30 GMT/UTC
      • the meeting discussed how we can engage from the perspective of OOR - actually, it jives well with the recently establish strategy and tactics for OOR
    • Ken Baclawski reported on his recent meeting with people at W3C, and the potential to start an OData-driven "community group," where OOR would come into the picture to provide the repository for the common entities
    • Mike Dean reported on last week's SOCoP workshop - a Vo Camp activity
  • 3.3 upcoming activities / virtual-session planning
    • Scheduled:
    • To be scheduled:
      • OOR Architecture & API Workshop-XV - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider
      • OOR Infrastructure-II - Chair: Peter P. Yim - pending: possibly after our next update on the ncbo-appliance vm
      • need to be rescheduled: 2012_10_23 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IX" Workshop - Chair: Mike Dean & Michael Grüninger
        • Michael will try to engage Till Mossakowski, and hopefully, through this session, start getting more integration between the Ontohub and the OOR activities
      • ...
  • 3.4 Member activities updates - Review: members and OOR-related activities (2012.07.10) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO - BioPortal updates
    • NEU - Gatekeeper, ...
    • Raytheon-BBN - federation, ...
    • UToronto - COLORE
    • Bremen - Ontohub
    • Ryerson
    • Mathet
    • SOCoP_INTEROP - SOCoP-OOR
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • content drive
    • Funding

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...

4. References:

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months

  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place

... to provide synergies for all.

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like

  • 4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • (discussion 2011.05.06):
      • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
    • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
      • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
    • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...
      • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:
        • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents
        • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR
  • 4.5 OOR instances OOR: status update and coordination ... (deferred discussion of this item)
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ontohub, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript [ here].

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2012_12_04

session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_12_04

List of attendees: Mike Dean (chair), Ken Baclawski, Mike Bennett, Peter P. Yim (scribe)

Proceedings:

[07:30] Peter P. Yim: Hi Ken!

[07:32] Mike Bennett: Hi all, I can only stay on for the first half hour.

[07:50] Peter P. Yim: [action] ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_12_04#nid3IMH

- Mike Dean will propose text to insert into the critical task list (to reflect recently established strategy and tactics)

[08:02] Mike Bennett: I must hop off to my next call now.

[08:04] Peter P. Yim / Mike Dean: we need to make our case for relevance

[08:28] Peter P. Yim: Mike Bennett will be at the OMG Burlingame (CA) meeting on Dec-13 (along with Elisa Kendall and

Pat Hayes,) and therefore, neither of them will likely be showing up at the Ontology Summit 2013 pre-launch

community brainstorm and planning session.

[08:05] Peter P. Yim: bye Mike Bennett ... look forward to your involvement in Ontology Summit 2013

[08:08] Mike Bennett: Thanks. I do too.

[08:09] Ken Baclawski: I met with Ivan Herman and Eric Prud'hommeaux.

[08:10] Mike Dean: ref. http://www.w3.org/People/Eric/

[08:16] Ken Baclawski: They suggested starting a W3C Community: http://www.w3.org/community/about/#cg

[08:21] Ken Baclawski: The OOR would be the service that provides a reliable source of entity types.

They liked the idea of the OOR at the W3C, but had no comments about it.

[08:26] Ken Baclawski: The only constraint is that the OData is moving quickly and any feedback from the

SW community must be given soon for it to be included in the draft standard.

[08:36] Mike Dean: reporting on the SOCoP workshop (with VoCamp) last week

[08:36] Mike Dean: http://vocamp.org/wiki/GeoVoCampSOCoP2012

[08:37] Mike Dean: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SocopWorkshops/Socop2012Workshop

[08:43] Mike Dean: welcomed participation by working ontologists including Amanda Vizedom, Mike Denny, and Doug Foxvog

[08:47] Mike Dean: ref. purl.org ... which provides symlinks to urls

[08:47] Ken Baclawski: It is possible that PURL could be a mechanism for solving an important issue for OOR

which has been part of architecture and use case discussions but which has not received enough explicit attention.

[08:48] Mike Dean: question about where to post resulting ontologies where the base URI is resolvable - ideally OOR could do this

[08:55] Mike Dean: PURL implementation available at purls.org

[08:56] Mike Dean: see https://sites.google.com/site/persistenturls/purls-in-the-wild

[08:56] Mike Dean: note that NCBO actually supports a http://purl.bioontology.org

[08:57] Peter P. Yim: persistent access to ontology and content should be good material for an upcoming OOR session

[09:02] Mike Dean: s/purls.org/purlz.org/

[09:02] Peter P. Yim: next two meetings: Tue 2012.12.11 and then first meeting next year: 2012.01.15, same time,

i.e. starting 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC

[09:02] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 9:02am PST --

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

6. (Other) Action items:

  • ...

7. Any Other Business:

  • ...

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • 2012_12_11 - continuing today's discussion - Tuesday: OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_12_11
    • 2013_01_15 - first meeting in 2013 - Tuesday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call - Tuesday: OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_01_15
      • note: we have decided to move the start earlier by one hour (just like today's and the last meeting) - future OOR meetings will continue to start at: 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC
    • ... please mark your calendars and come!
  • Call adjourned at: 9:02 am PST

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.12.04-9:02am PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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