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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Fri 2009-07-24     (1)

OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Fri 2009.07.24, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 6:00pm CET / 5:00pm GMT / 17:00 UTC     (1A)

  • RSVP to appreciated, ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.)     (1B7)
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.     (1B9)

Attendees     (1D)

  • Expecting:     (1D2)
    • ... if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...     (1D2A)

Agenda Ideas     (1E)

please insert below (along with your name for follow-up purposes)     (1E1)

  • coordination and preparation for the upcoming 30-Jul-2009 & 6-Aug-2009 joint Ontolog-OOR panel sessions     (1E2)
  • Brainstorming the ISWC 2009 Poster submission (at least an outline).     (1E3)
  • progress review on planned other OOR-related events     (1E4)
  • reports on member activities that are OOR-related     (1E5)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1F)

1. Meeting called to order:     (1F1)

2. Roll Call:     (1F5)

3. Status Review and Discussion:     (1F7)

Suggested topics to be covered:     (1F10)

  • Natasha / Ken : coordination and preparation for the upcoming 30-Jul-2009 & 6-Aug-2009 joint Ontolog-OOR panel sessions     (1F11)
  • Todd: Brainstorming the ISWC 2009 Poster submission (at least an outline).     (1F12)
  • progress review on planned other OOR-related events     (1F13)
  • reports on member activities that are OOR-related     (1F14)
  • developing details:     (1F16)
    • 2009_07_30 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "BioPortal and related Ontology Repository Implementations and Development" (Take-3) - Chair: NatashaNoy - Panelists: CarlosRueda, PaulAlexander, JohnGraybeal, MikeDean, StephenGranite, AlexGarcia, Ken Baclawski - ConferenceCall_2009_07_30        (1F16A)
    • 2009_08_06 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Ontology Repository Research Issues" - Chair: Ken Baclawski - Panelists: MichaelGruninger, ElisaKendall, BartGajderowicz, MathieuDaquin & ToddSchneider - ConferenceCall_2009_08_06        (1F16B)
      • Leo / Ken: will ping SuzetteStoutenburg (and everyone) again     (1F16B1)
      • Peter: need session abstract, list of confirmed panelists, and position abstracts of each panelist     (1F16B2)
      • Carlos mentioned that he will only be an attendee for this 2nd panel (not a panelist)     (1F16B3)
      • also interested in participation is Jacques (need to review IPR issues)     (1F16B4)
      • Bart also confirmed as a panelist for this session     (1F16B5)
  • review of the joint Ontolog-OOR panel on Thu 2009-07-16:     (1F17)
  • (from previous meetings): Joint OOR-Ontolog Panel sessions ... on deck:     (1F18)
    • panel session on Protege / webProtege / BioPortal / CODS / OOR-sandbox ... and how they work together, now and in the near future ... this is more a OOR user and content providers' session (this would go right before Natasha's's OOR implementers and developers' session) - chair: MarkMusen - date confirmed Thu 16-July-2009     (1F18A)
    • panel session on "BioPortal-based ontology repository implementation and development" - chair: NatashaNoy - date confirmed Thu 30-July-2009     (1F18B)
      • candidate panelists: NCBO folks, MMI folks, OOR- MikeDean, MichaelGruninger, KenBaclawski, AlexGarcia, KatherineGoodier (cultural codebase) ... StephenGranite?, BartGajderowicz?, GaryBergCross?     (1F18B1)
    • panel session on "OOR Research Issues" - champion: Ken Baclawski - the date needs to be rescheduled     (1F18C)
      • candidate panelists: Michael, Leo->SuzetteStoutenburg, NatashaNoy, ElisaKendall, ChrisWelty, OOR team members from the EU, (and possibly other who were engaged when the OOR initiative first started (ref.).     (1F18C1)
      • Ken will send out a doodle scheduler on this soon!     (1F18C2)
    • Ken/2009.07.10 update - session now scheduled for Thu 2009.08.06 - see: ConferenceCall_2009_08_06     (1F18D)
      • Panelists: MathieuDaquin, KenBaclawski, AlexGarcia, MichaelGruninger, ElisaKendall, CarlosRueda, ToddSchneider     (1F18D1)
      • will get people to contribute (between now and then) and collect thought on the page at: OOR/ResearchIssues     (1F18D2)
    • Peter: noting the huge overlap of panelists (and possibly topics) between the 7/30 & 8/06 sessions ... suggest we try to leverage that to our advantage     (1F19A)
      • Ken: I will be looking more for discussions, rather than presentation     (1F19A1)
        • also, looking for longer term issue rather than more immediate issues     (1F19A1A)
      • Ken, Natasha, Mike and Peter will try to coordinate offline in the organizational effort     (1F19A2)
  • Todd: Brainstorming the ISWC 2009 Poster submission (at least an outline)     (1F20)
  • Potential for collaboration with the geospatial ontology folks - NancyWiegand / GaryBergCross     (1F24)
    • Nancy: intro; SOCoP - submitting a grant proposal to NSF again; possibility of using OOR for their work     (1F24A)
    • Gary: intro - SOCoP secretary; use of ontology repository for interoperability, social aspect of sharing;     (1F24B)
    • Mike: welcome the collaboration; probably some additional features needed to support geospatial ontologies     (1F24C)
    • K: how much data will be involved .. using     (1F24D)
      • Gary: possibly using some USGS data (K: which is already linked to     (1F24D1)
    • Nancy: supporting data store ... or just ontologies     (1F24E)
    • Todd: OOR not supposed to provide data store ... but can consider a extension project to work on     (1F24F)
    • Nancy: is the infrastructure stable ... and expected to be around for many years?     (1F24G)
    • Gary: Nancy is the PI; proposal due in July;     (1F24H)
    • K: National Geospatial Symposium ...     (1F24I)
    • Ken: already has a grant ... can share some of the language used ... Nancy will contact Ken     (1F24J)
    • Ken/2009.07.10 update - I am working with Nancy to supply her some of the language for her proposal     (1F24K)
    • Peter: Ontolog has provided Nancy and Gary a "Letter of Collaboration" to NSF - see: the Letter     (1F24L)
    • Mike/2009.07.10 - will do "Support Letter" to NSF (for this proposal) on behalf of OOR too (--done! MikeDean/2009.07.20) - see: the Letter     (1F24M)
    • Ken: coming from the experience as a review panelist, these letters can help (as well as hurt) a proposal     (1F24N)
  • OOR sandbox instance - status review -     (1F25)
    • Benjamin: major update - BioPortal v2.1d - to be released on 12-Jun-2009     (1F25A)
      • Natasha/2009.06.12 - slightly delayed, release date could now be a couple of week out     (1F25A1)
    • Peter: hardware for OOR sandbox-2 (and later the production instance of OOR) will be ready fairly soon (next few days).     (1F25B)
      • an updated version of the CODS server will also be installed on that hardware cluster     (1F25B1)
    • Peter/2009.07.10 - hardware is now ready ... once the Stanford / NCBO are back from their International Conference (this week) in Amsterdam     (1F25C)
  • ISWC 2009     (1F27)
    • candidates: A poster on OOR; also presentation as a "Lightning Talk"; BOF meeting     (1F27A)
    • Todd, K & Ken will champion and coordinate this group of efforts     (1F27B)
      • Ken/2009.7.10: work the poster is in progress     (1F27B1)
      • Mike: would be great if we could also do a demo ... Ken: we'll submit that (a demo) as part of the proposal.     (1F27B2)
      • Ken / Mike / Michael: we'll do something to demo Common Logic support too     (1F27B3)
  • OOR development activities     (1F29)
    • Michael: running into issues with trying to add FOL/CL upload/download onto the BioPortal codebase     (1F29A)
      • Michael: issues with inherent binary relationship limitation with the existing OWL implementation (based on Protege)     (1F29A1)
      • Natasha: BioPortal now supports two backends now - the Protege backend and the LexGrid (OBO/Mayo) backend     (1F29A2)
      • PatCassidy: translate? ... having a CL backend for Protege would be useful     (1F29A3)
    • Peter: please continue this conversation on the [oor-dev] list     (1F29B)
    • K: possibly add another use case for CL     (1F29C)
    • Peter/2009.07.10: would love to see Mike's team (or Mike to take the lead on a broader effort) would do a native FOL backend for the OOR     (1F29D)
    • Ken/2009.07.10: we need internal interfaces ... modularization ... [Ken, please elaborate ...]     (1F29E)
    • Todd/2009.07.10: need to re-emphasize that we should keep a focus on storing and retrieving "stuff" (so far, the focus has been too much on "ontologies") ... need separation of concerns     (1F29F)
    • Michael/2009.07.10 - we'll get some questions about working on a CL backend onto the [oor-dev] list, and look forward to the Jul-16 & Jul-30 sessions to get some clarification.     (1F29G)
  • Funding and proposals     (1F33)
    • Peter: suggest picking up the effort ... NSF solicitation like INTEROP (07-565) (due 2009.07.23), STCI (PD 06-7231) (due 2009.08.13)     (1F33A)
      • Peter: (in the spirit of the encouraged pairwise collaboration) I'll be making proposals to the INTEROP and STCI programs with MarkMusen     (1F33A1)
      • Ken: I'll look into either INTEROP or STCI to see if we can do something     (1F33A2)
      • My initial investigation into STCI funding was discouraging, but later discussions were much more encouraging although I will still need to discuss OOR with more NSF people next week. This will be awkward because I will be traveling next week, but I try to continue the investigation.     (1F33A3)
    • Bart: what kind of help can we get (for proposals in Canada)     (1F33B)
  • Short-Term Funding Plans     (1F34)
    • Peter: we need to get a stake in the ground so that we can say OOR or OOR-related projects are funded (and be able to list those projects)     (1F34A)
    • members of this team are highly encouraged to go out (by themselves, or form pairs or small teams) with proposals where the "OOR" label is prominently featured     (1F34B)
    • Ken: trying to get some seed money from NSF     (1F34C)
    • Carlos: we just submitted (yesterday) with OOR being a key aspect in the proposal     (1F34D)

4. New Issues:     (1F36)

5. Any Other Business:     (1F37)

6. Action items:     (1F38)

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:     (1F40)

  • Next Meeting:     (1F41)
    • next meeting will be our two joint OOR-Ontolog panel session on Thu 2009.07.30 & Thu 2009.08.06 (10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 17:30 UTC) - see developing details on: ConferenceCall_2009_07_30, which will be followed by ConferenceCall_2009_08_06     (1F41A)
    • next regular team call Fri 2009.08.14 12:00pm ET / 9:00am PT / 16:00 GMT/UTC - see (closer to the time) session page at: OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_08_14     (1F41B)
    • Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm ET / 9:00am PT / 16:00 GMT/UTC     (1F41C)

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2009.07.24-10:30am PDT     (1F44)

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.     (1F45)

Resources     (1G)

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