[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-01     (1)

Conference Call Details     (1A)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-01     (1A1)

• Agenda Comments:     (1A2)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.     (1A2A)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting     (1A2B)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/     (1A2C)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"     (1A2C1)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed     (1A2C2)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_09_01     (1A2D)
• Date: Thursday, Sep. 1, 2005     (1A3)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock     (1A4)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour     (1A5)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)     (1A6)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"     (1A7)

Attendees     (1B)

• Attended:     (1B1)
  • Bob Smith     (1B1A)
  • Duane Nickull     (1B1B)
  • Peter P. Yim     (1B1C)
  • Pat Cassidy     (1B1D)
  • Rex Brooks     (1B1E)
  • Kurt Conrad     (1B1F)
  • Monica Martin     (1B1G)
  • David Whitten     (1B1H)
  • EMichaelMaximilien     (1B1I)

• Expecting:     (1B2)
  • Elisa Kendall     (1B2A)
  • ...(add your name here)...     (1B2B)

• Regrets:     (1B3)
  • Mitch Ringer     (1B3A)
  • Paul Koch     (1B3B)

Agenda Ideas     (1C)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1D)

• Kurt Conrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.     (1D2)

• Peter P. Yim volunteered     (1D4)

• see above     (1D6)

• Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):     (1D8)
  • member regular meeting     (1D8A)
  • invited speaker session     (1D8B)
  • scheduled discussion     (1D8C)
  • project review     (1D8D)
  • workshop / work session     (1D8E)
  • planning     (1D8F)

• Scheduled Ontolog Events     (1D9)
  • Thu Sep. 8, 2005 - Elisa Kendall - "The Model Driven Semantic Web �� Emerging Technologies & Implementation Strategies" - (proposed by: Brand Niemann / PeterYim) - confirmed - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_08     (1D9A)
    • Elisa has posted the ODM spec to the session page; solicits the community's review and comment. (also: nice to browse through that prior to the 9/8/05 session.)     (1D9A1)
  • Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - Jon Bosak - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 - confirmed (KurtConrad / Susan Turnbull / PeterYim)     (1D9B)
    • Ontolog members should note that this replaces our regular Thursday Sep. 22 meeting (i.e. no 9/22/05 call)     (1D9B1)
  • Thu Oct. 13 2005 - Barry Smith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed (BillMcCarthy)     (1D9C)
  • Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: Nicolas Rouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_27     (1D9D)
    • the original 10/27 date conflicts with the NCOR Inaugural Meeting, we are rescheduling this to Thu Oct. 20, 2005     (1D9D1)
    • EMichaelMaximilien will join Nicolas in organizing this event     (1D9D2)
    • Peter will ping Nicolas to let him know; we should start working on this quickly     (1D9D3)
  • Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City     (1D9E)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months     (1D10)
  • Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -     (1D10A)
    • John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)     (1D10A1)
    • Doug Lenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)     (1D10A2)
    • Nicola Guarino on DOLCE, possibly also Bill Andersen or Chris Welty (suggested by Peter P. Yim & PatCassidy)     (1D10A3)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)     (1D10A4)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)     (1D10A5)
    • Jim Spohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)     (1D10A6)
  • other suggestions:     (1D10B)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group     (1D10B1)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel     (1D10B2)
    • Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project     (1D10B3)
      • Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by Brand Niemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ     (1D10B3A)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time     (1D10B4)
    • Rex / Peter: XMDR - Bruce Bargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team     (1D10B5)
    • Peter P. Yim / Elisa Kendall: Pat Hayes, DeborahMcGuinness     (1D10B6)
    • To be brought up for discussion today:     (1D10B7)
      • Chris Menzel: Bill Andersen     (1D10B7A)
      • Brand Niemann / Mark Musen / Peter P. Yim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)     (1D10B7B)
      • Brand Niemann / Peter P. Yim: RoyRoebuck     (1D10B7C)
      • Duane Nickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html     (1D10B7D)
      • Duane Nickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C     (1D10B7E)
    • Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to     (1D10B8)
      • suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa     (1D10B8A)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:     (1D11)
  • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful     (1D11A)
  • Nicolas Rouquette -- other topics lined up?     (1D11B)
  • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)     (1D11C)
    • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE     (1D11C1)
  • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion     (1D11D)
  • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel     (1D11E)
  • we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005     (1D11F)
  • candidates for November, 2005     (1D11G)
    • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"     (1D11G1)
    • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.     (1D11G2)
    • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion     (1D11G3)
    • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)     (1D11G4)
      • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.     (1D11G4A)
    • Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"     (1D11G5)
      • candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, Mark Crawford, Elisa Kendall, Adam Pease, Mike Daconta, Jim Hendler, Steve Ray (moderator?)     (1D11G5A)
      • maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?     (1D11G5B)
    • Duane Nickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it     (1D11G6)
  • EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.     (1D11H)
    • Duane suggested this queue management chat tool by Doug Davis of IBM - http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog     (1D11H1)
      • Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session     (1D11H1A)

• Upcoming Events of interest     (1D12)
  • Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Mark & Peter will be presenting their SMI/CIM3 Public Collaborative Ontology Development Server)     (1D12A)
    • Peter to post link to the session     (1D12A1)
  • Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)     (1D12B)
  • Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the Jon Bosak joint-program with Ontolog; RexBrook et al. also presenting.     (1D12C)
  • OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. 15, 2005 - see: http://www.oasis-open.org/events/webinars/webinars.php     (1D12D)
  • National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html     (1D12E)
    • wants to know if call-in is supported     (1D12E1)

• The SIGMA Knowledge Engineering Environment (AdamPease's SUMO) server has been upgraded since last month. The link is now http://sigma3.cim3.net:4010/sigma/login.html (the previous http://sigma2.cim3.net:8080/sigma/login.html no longer works, please note.) - attn: all     (1D14)
  • The Ontolog response to UC/CEFACT on CCTS v2.01 report should be corresponding updated (with the above link) and resubmitted. (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid24) - attn: Kurt Conrad, Duane Nickull et al.     (1D14A)
  • also, the CCT to SUMO-MILO-QOS-CCTONT mapping should also be updated from v0.4.1 to v0.6.1 - attn: Adam Pease, Peter P. Yim, Kurt Conrad et al.     (1D14B)
  • also need to update the Cct Representation page with the v0.6.1 spreadsheet     (1D14C)

• post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_08_25 Healthcare Informatics Landscape discussion session     (1D16)
  • what worked well     (1D16A)
    • divergence (good spectrum of representation) of the panel     (1D16A1)
    • great resource collected     (1D16A2)
    • good follow-up responses and postings     (1D16A3)
  • what could be improved     (1D16B)
  • ideas for the future     (1D16C)
    • Rex: don't mind doing a follow-up session, with the same people, but no presentations, so that we can devote the full time to discussion     (1D16C1)
    • Kurt: we should do this sooner or later     (1D16C2)
  • other remarks     (1D16D)
    • Rex: let's shoot for Thu Nov. 3, 2005 - Rex will post to the forum and seek people's availability     (1D16D1)

• possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]     (1D17)
  • Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition     (1D17A)
  • Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned     (1D17B)
    • Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group     (1D17B1)
  • Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to Pat Cassidy or anyone else who would be interested     (1D17C)

• Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling     (1D18)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work     (1D20)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)     (1D20A)
  • Formalization issues     (1D20B)
  • UBL Liaison update     (1D20C)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report     (1D20D)

• Status of Protege-KIF project work     (1D21)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work     (1D22)
  • representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.     (1D22A)

• UBL liaison report     (1D23)

• SICoP liaison report     (1D24)

• Planning team - discussion report     (1D25)
  • ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_18#nidF6S     (1D25A)
  • and: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_18#nidF6V     (1D25B)

• Ed Dodds / Bob Smith: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006     (1D30)
  • Peter P. Yim: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity".     (1D30A)

• Duane: call for paper - http://www.ift.ulaval.ca/%7Ekone/SWIG06/CSWWS2006-blog.htm     (1D31)
  • Canadian Semantic Web Working Symposium - Jun. 6 2006 - Quebec City, Canada     (1D31A)
  • submission due Jan. 1, 2006     (1D31B)

• regular call adjourned 11:41 am PDT     (1D33)
• next call will be on Thu 2005-09-08 starting at 10:30 am PDT     (1D34)
  • that will be the Ontolog Invited Speaker session featuring Elisa Kendall on: "The Model Driven Semantic Web �� Emerging Technologies & Implementation Strategies."     (1D34A)
  • See: ConferenceCall_2005_09_08     (1D34B)