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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2012_09_18

This is a regular OOR Team meeting. ... please refer also to proceedings from the last team meeting at OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_08_07

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012
  • Start Time: 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 5:30pm CEST / 15:30 UTC
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Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)

Agenda Ideas

  • upcoming activities / virtual-session planning
  • Member activities updates
  • action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies)
  • coordination for getting work funded
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box
  • ... (add yours!)

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Mike Dean takes the chair and welcomes everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to take notes
  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Status Review and Discussion:

3.1 Team priority: Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list ... (skipping this item)

3.2 previous action item (from the 2012.08.07 meeting) status update:

  • none!

3.3 Relevant Announcements and Reports (from members)

  • Peter / Michael / Ken / Eric - talked a little bit about the upcoming "Ontology-based Standards" collaboration

... most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...

4. Key items for discussion:

  • 4.1 upcoming activities / virtual-session planning
    • Scheduled:
      • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
      • 2012_10_09 - Tuesday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call
        • let's use this to focus on the recent strategy and funding conversation we started in OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_08_21
          • we'll use this session for "Strategy and Funding" (see below)
      • 2012_10_16 - Tuesday: OOR Metadata Workshop-VIII: "More on Ontology Mapping" and/or "Metadata in OOR for Big Data"
        • Michael: will use this slot for the "OOR-Content: FOIS Ontologies" session instead (see below)
      • 2012_10_23 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IX" Workshop - Chair: Mike Dean & Michael Grüninger
        • Michael will try to engage Till Mossakowski, and hopefully, through this session, start getting more integration between the Ontohub and the OOR activities
      • 2012_10_25 - Thursday: Joint OASIS-OMG-ISO-IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontology-based Standards" mini-series session-1: Sharing Experiences-I - Co-chairs: Elisa Kendall & Peter P. Yim - Speakers: JamesStPierre, Chet Ensign, Andrew Watson, Denise Warzel, Michael Grüninger, Leo Obrst, Ken Baclawski, Eric Chan - ConferenceCall_2012_10_25   
      • 2012_11_08 - Thursday: Joint OASIS-OMG-ISO-IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontology-based Standards" mini-series session-2: Sharing Experiences-II - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & Eric Chan - Panelists: Elisa Kendall, Mark Linehan, Davide Sottara - ConferenceCall_2012_11_08   
      • Re-scheduled "OOR Content-IV: FOIS Ontologies" - Chair: Michael Grüninger - 2012_10_16
      • OOR Funding-III - "OOR Project Strategy & Funding" - Co-chair: Ken Baclawski & Peter P. Yim - (ref. above) 2012_10_09
    • To be scheduled:
  • 4.2 Member activities updates - Review: members and OOR-related activities (2012.07.10) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO - BioPortal updates
    • NEU - Gatekeeper, ...
    • Raytheon-BBN - federation, ...
    • UToronto - COLORE
    • Bremen - Ontohub
    • Ryerson
    • Mathet
    • SOCoP_INTEROP - SOCoP-OOR
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • content drive
    • Funding
  • 4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • (discussion 2011.05.06):
      • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
    • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
      • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
    • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...
      • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:
        • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents
        • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR
  • 4.5 OOR instances OOR: status update and coordination ... (deferred discussion of this item)
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ontohub, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]
  • ===IM Chat Transcript captured during the session===

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

Chat transcript from room: oor_20120918

2012-09-18 GMT-08:00 [timestamps in PDT]

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

[08:26] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2012_09_18

session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_09_18

Attendees: Mike Dean (chair), Eric Chan, Ken Baclawski, Michael Grüninger, Peter P. Yim (scribe), Todd Schneider, anonymous

[08:29] Peter P. Yim: Hi Mike!

[08:38] Peter P. Yim: -- session started: 8:38am PDT --

[09:03] Todd Schneider: Have to go.

[09:16] Peter P. Yim: == ref. the upcoming "Ontology-based Standards" sessions - Oct-15, Nov-8, ... and beyond

[09:18] Ken Baclawski: Translations to formal languages can provide validation opportunities that

are complementary to the natural language specification.

[09:29] Eric Chan: Ontological representations (such as OWL, UML, Common Logic) by faithful translations

from textual "informal" standard specifications is analogous to the use of formal models (such as

Petri Nets, Finite State Machines, Temporal Logic, etc.) to support the textual "informal" specifications

of lower-level communication protocols. It is essential in formalizing protocols in order to verify the

correctness of protocols (safety, liveness, fairness, etc). We should propose that ontology is equally

essential for new higher-level protocols involving richer data and semantics).

[09:15] Peter P. Yim: @MichaelGruninger - on the question about "expectations" of a co-organizer for the

"Ontology-based Standards" effort -

(i) someone from the co-organizer working on organizing and presenting at the events, and

(ii) be ready to endorse a statement that says "Ontology-based Standards is good and we

(the co-organizers) are behind it!"

[09:22] Mike Dean: ... report on the experience at: http://vocamp.org/wiki/GeoVoCampDayton2012

[09:41] Michael Grüninger: will use the 2012_10_16 slot for the "OOR-Content: FOIS Ontologies" session

(instead of making it an OOR-Metadata session as originally planned)

[09:42] Peter P. Yim: also, 2012_10_23 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IX" Workshop

- Chair: Mike Dean & Michael Grüninger ... Michael will try to engage Till Mossakowski, and hopefully,

through this session, start getting more integration between the Ontohub and the OOR activities

[09:37] Peter P. Yim: Peter / Mike / Ken: ref. the OOR instance - let do one more role out of a BioPortal

vm-appliance based OOR (probably their Nov-2012 version) before we will go with building from the code-repository

[09:37] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 9:38am PDT --

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

5. Any Other Business:

  • ...

6. Action items:

  • ...

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog ""Revision of the Common Logic Standard"" - Chair: Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
    • 2012_10_09 - Tuesday: OOR Project Team Planning: "OOR Project Strategy & Funding" - Co-chair: Ken Baclawski & Peter P. Yim
    • 2012_10_16 - Tuesday: OOR Metadata Workshop-VIII: "OOR-Content: FOIS Ontologies" - Chair: Michael Grüninger
    • 2012_10_23 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IX" Workshop - Co-chairs: Mike Dean & Michael Grüninger
    • ... please mark your calendars and come!
  • Call adjourned at: 9:35 am PDT

--

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.09.18-9:48am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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