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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2012_05_01

This is a regular OOR Team meeting. ... please refer also to proceedings from the last team meeting at OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_04_03

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 1-May-2012
  • Start Time: 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 5:30pm CEST / 15:30 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
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  • RSVP to appreciated, ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.)
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.


  • Expecting:
    • ... if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...

Agenda Ideas

please insert any additional items below (along with your name for follow-up purposes)

  • postmortem of the last couple of OOR events:
  • upcoming activities / virtual-session planning
    • [new - ppy/2012.05.02] collaborating with NYC & communities in "Big Open Data"
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • Member activities updates
  • action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies)
  • Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box
  • ...

Agenda & Proceedings


1. Meeting called to order:

  • Mike Dean takes the chair and welcomes everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to take notes
  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Status Review and Discussion:

4. Key items for review and discussion today

  • postmortem of the last couple of OOR events:
    • Demos of various OOR instances at the OntologySummit2012_Symposium on Apr-13
      • Michael: 6 demos presented; 3 were OOR-related (SOCoP-OOR, Ontohub-OOR & COLORE-OOR)
      • Peter: thanks to all on the federation making it possible for us to have a rather coherent presentation to the audience ... great, especially this is an extended effort from one of the earlier OntologySummit's (2008 to be exact)
    • Metadata-VII: Ontology Mapping - OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_04_24
      • Michael: presentation from the OntoIOp (DOL) team, Jerome Euzenat & NCBO folks
      • Todd: very interesting session
      • Michael: follow-up meeting needed to go into representation language(s) for mapping
      • Peter P. Yim: would love to engage Jerome Euzenat (and incorporate his "mapping engine" into OOR as a value added service, especially on the database-schema-to-ontology mapping functionality.) Any others who are working on the state-of-the-art in converting database schemas to ontologies? ... who else is doing work in database schema to ontology conversion?
        • Frank Olken: Dan Miranker (Univ. of Texas Austin) and his grad student JuanSequeda have been working on translating SQL schemas to ontologies (on a small scale).
        • Mike Dean: we have something - the AutoMapper component of Asio tool suite - see ... but this is not opensource sw
        • Mike Dean: D2RQ and D2R from Chris Bizer's group
        • Frank Olken: Juan Sequeda, Marcelo Arenas, Daniel P. Miranker: On directly mapping relational databases to RDF and OWL. WWW 2012: 649-658
        • Peter P. Yim: maybe Elisa Kendall too
        • Peter P. Yim: the interest above stems from my earlier (Mar-2010) proposal I made to the NCO_NITRD on systematically developing ontologies from the (ref. datasets (more than 390,000 of them now), possibly developing those "ontologies" from database schemas and from "vocabularies" the the RPI folks have been doing for some of those) and then hosting these ontologies on OOR for public reference and consumption. This approach (mapping database schemas to some ontology/ies) was one of the kep approaches we took when Leo Obrst, I and others were working for VerticalNet circa year 2000 too.)
      • Peter P. Yim: consider doing a virtual session on this ... Michael: possibly an Ontolog topic more than an straight OOR topic (which deals with things that are already ontologies)
  • previous action item status review
    • [action-2012.03.13] Michael will try to get Mike Bennett to upload his ontology to OOR
      • Michael: I'll work on a "Content coordination among OOR instances" session
    • [action-2012.03.13] Ken will continue to work on implementing "gatekeeping" (and get back with an ETA) so we can move from "sandbox" to "production"
      • Ken: I can start looking into this more, now that summer has started
  • upcoming activities / virtual-session planning
    • Architecture-API-XII - Tue 2012.05.08 ... Ken & Todd will work on this offline and send Peter an abstract shortly ... possibly addressing some of the architectural & API aspects of the "BioPortal tab" issues
    • Metadata-VIII - will try to fix a date on 4/24 during the "Metadata in Ontology Mapping" session ... Michael Grüninger will try to come up with a date via email
    • OOR-Dev-VIII - Tue 2012.05.22 - Chair: Mike Dean
      • NEU, BBN, Toronto, Bremen, ... SOCoP, ORNL, MMI,
      • code contributors to compare notes on "adding tabs" ... and trying to engage the other potential code contributors
    • OOR-Content-II - Tue 2012.05.29 - Co-chair: Michael Grüninger & Mike Dean
    • [new - ppy/2012.05.02] collaborating with NYC & communities in "Big Open Data"
      • Ken: ICOM as a collaboration standard
    • engaging Jerome Euzenat ... (?)
      • Michael: I will try to engage Jerome, probably with more concrete things, like the next virtual seesion
  • Member activities updates ... (below)
  • action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (below)
  • Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (below)

... Notes below are from previous meeting(s), and will be updated as this meeting progresses.

Member activities updates:' ... (discussion deferred)

  • Review: members and OOR-related activities
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO
    • NEU
    • Raytheon-BBN
    • UToronto
    • Bremen
    • Ryerson
    • Mathet
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • OntoIOp
    • Ontology Summit 2012
    • content drive
    • Funding
  • action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies)
  • Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (discussion deferred)
    • (discussion 2011.05.06):
      • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
    • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
      • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
    • (discussion 2011.06.03) ...
  • code development on an Eclipse IDE for all?
  • Code repository - considering "git" or github?

5. Funding progress: ... (discussion deferred)

6. Any Other Business:

7. Action items:

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • 2012_05_08 - Architecture-API-XII - Co-chair: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider
    • 2012_05_15 - no OOR meeting
    • 2012_05_10 & 2012_05_17 - (being staged) "Big Open Data" with NYC,, SMW/PSMW & OOR - please mark your calendars and come!
    • 2012_05_22 - OOR-Dev-VIII - Tue 2012.05.22 - Chair: Mike Dean
    • 2012_05_29 - OOR-Content-II - Tue 2012.05.29 - Co-chair: Michael Grüninger & Mike Dean
    • 2012_06_05 - no OOR meeting, SemTech will be in session
    • 2012_06_12 - next Regular OOR Team meeting - first Tuesday of the month - OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_06_12
  • Call adjourned at: 9:53 am PDT


notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.05.01-9:58am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.


  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30
  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03