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OpenOntologyRepository: "OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API" Hackathon Session - IV - Tue 2013_09_10     (1)

Session Topic: OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API Hackathon-IV - Alignment     (1A)

Session Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & TillMossakowski     (1B)

This is the 4th session in a series of regular activities for the OOR team. The plan is to devote one meeting a month to intense coding (or other low level development) work.     (1C)

  • Dial-in:     (1D4)
    • Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... (long distance cost may apply)     (1D4A)
    • Skype: joinconference (i.e. make a skype call to the contact with skypeID="joinconference") ... (generally free-of-charge, when connecting from your computer ... ref.)     (1D4B)
      • when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#     (1D4B1)
      • Unfamiliar with how to do this on Skype? ...     (1D4B2)
        • Add the contact "joinconference" to your skype contact list first. To participate in the teleconference, make a skype call to "joinconference", then open the dial pad (see platform-specific instructions below) and enter the Conference ID: 141184# when prompted.     (1D4B2A)
      • Can't find Skype Dial pad? ...     (1D4B3)
        • for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"     (1D4B3A)
        • for Linux Skype users: please note that the dial-pad is only available on v4.1 (or later; or on the earlier Skype versions 2.x,) if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. ... (ref.)     (1D4B3B)
  • Discussions and Q & A:     (1D5)
    • Nominally, when a presentation is in progress, the moderator will mute everyone, except for the speaker.     (1D5A)
    • To un-mute, press "*7" ... To mute, press "*6" (please mute your phone, especially if you are in a noisy surrounding, or if you are introducing noise, echoes, etc. into the conference line.)     (1D5B)
    • we will usually save all questions and discussions till after all presentations are through. You are encouraged to jot down questions onto the chat-area in the mean time (that way, they get documented; and you might even get some answers in the interim, through the chat.)     (1D5C)
    • During the Q&A / discussion segment (when everyone is muted), If you want to speak or have questions or remarks to make, please raise your hand (virtually) by clicking on the "hand button" (lower right) on the chat session page. You may speak when acknowledged by the session moderator (again, press "*7" on your phone to un-mute). Test your voice and introduce yourself first before proceeding with your remarks, please. (Please remember to click on the "hand button" again (to lower your hand) and press "*6" on your phone to mute yourself after you are done speaking.)     (1D5D)
    • instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field from "anonymous" to your real name, like "JaneDoe").     (1D6A)
    • You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.     (1D6B)
    • thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) oor_20130910@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!     (1D6C)
  • Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/     (1D7)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"     (1D7A)
    • if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.     (1D7B)
    • people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the [ slides] (where applicable) and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.     (1D7C)
  • RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated, ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.)     (1D9)
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.     (1D11)

Attendees     (1E)

Agenda Ideas     (1E5)

In-session Resources     (1E6)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1F)

1. Meeting called to order:     (1F5)

2. Roll Call:     (1F10)

3. Key discussion:     (1F13)

3.1 Review of previous meetings' decision and action items     (1F14)

3.2 work for this hackathon session     (1F16)

4. Prior Discussions: ... for reference only!     (1F21)

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months     (1F22)

... to provide synergies for all - please join this Thursday's ONTOLOG Community Planning Session: Event Scheduling for the Rest of 2013: ConferenceCall_2013_09_12     (1F24)

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like     (1F25)

4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)     (1F26)

  • (discussion 2011.05.06):     (1F27)
    • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all     (1F27A)
  • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively     (1F28)
    • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?     (1F28A)
  • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...     (1F29)
    • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:     (1F29A)
      • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents     (1F29A1)
      • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR     (1F29A2)
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)     (1F33)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]     (1F33A)
  • 4.7 Renewed OOR tactics (as agreed during the 2013.06.18 meeting) - there is general consensus we would change to a more bottom-up approach (rather than the "top-down" approach we have been taking ...     (1F34)
    • we will allow each oor node project to develop (colore, ontohub, socop, oor public instance, etc.) on their own, and coordinate the "team" effort through the use of a shared set of metadata, API and the UI (e.g. how people download (or even upload) ontologies, etc.)     (1F34A)
    • The key is to ensure that each of the ontology repository projects in OOR are interoperable from the software perspective, uniform in the GUI, and they use a shared approach to ontology metadata     (1F34B)
    • we will make oor.net to be an ontology registry, which then links to the ontologies in the actual ontology repository where the ontology is described     (1F34C)
    • actions will be focused on developing three things (hopefully within the next 3 months): the set of metadata, the API, and some shared thoughts on the UI     (1F34D)
    • after that, we will focus on building up content with each OOR node tackling the domain(s) they are best with     (1F34E)

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session     (1G)

see raw transcript here.     (1G1)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1G2)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1G3)

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --     (1G4)


Chat transcript from room: oor_20130910     (1G5)

2013-09-10 GMT-08:00     (1G6)


[6:53] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the     (1G7)

OpenOntologyRepository: "OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API" Hackathon Session - Tue 2013_09_10     (1G8)

Session Topic: OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API Hackathon-IV - Alignment     (1G9)

This is the 4th of the series of regular activities for the OOR team. The plan is to devote one meeting a month to     (1G11)

intense coding (or other low level development) work.     (1G12)

Proceedings     (1G15)

[7:06] Peter P. Yim: == session starts ...     (1G16)

[7:09] Peter P. Yim: Till showed us how to do a diff on github: just goto History, then click on the hexadecimal version-ID     (1G19)

[7:15] Peter P. Yim: from the source comments: # TODO: also include the gatekeeper API, BUT: users should have access to repositories (not ontologies - they belong to repositories)     (1G20)

[7:16] Peter P. Yim: Till / Peter: hopefully, this "Alignment" exercise is our last (OOR) internal step before we are in     (1G21)

a position to "publish" this API to the broader ontology community     (1G22)

[7:20] Ken Baclawski: The Item in gatekeeper should be changed to Repository to make it consistent with the Ontology.idl.     (1G23)

[7:21] Till Mossakowski: ... and then it can be imported in Ontology.idl     (1G24)

[7:22] Peter P. Yim: Question: are we handling access control and authentication via the Gatekeeper or via the BioPortal interface?     (1G26)

[7:24] Ken Baclawski: The gatekeeper.idl is not concerned with access control and authentication but rather with     (1G27)

roles and responsibilities of a user.     (1G28)

[7:53] Peter P. Yim: Till: github is closed sourced     (1G29)

[8:00] Michael Grüninger: I need to leave now -- sorry, I double-booked meetings     (1G30)

[8:00] Peter P. Yim: bye, Michael!     (1G31)

[8:03] Ken Baclawski: I will send the existing gatekeeper prototype to Till. It is based on existing business process software.     (1G32)

I also have a paper that explains the gatekeeper. Unfortunately, I was unable to modify the gatekeeper so that it could be     (1G33)

integrated with the OOR.     (1G34)

[8:05] Ken Baclawski: We will look for existing software that could be used for gatekeeping/workflow.     (1G35)

[8:08] DanielCoutoVale: I'm connecting to the conference now! Need to make contact with Ken ref. preparation of the Sep-17 session     (1G36)

[8:10] Peter P. Yim: Hi Daniel ... we are about done NOW     (1G37)

[8:11] Ken Baclawski: My email is Ken [at] Baclawski.com     (1G38)

[8:14] Peter P. Yim: next hackethon session will be on Oct-15 - OOR Hackathon n.05 Tue 2013.10.15 ... (there is a possibility that     (1G39)

Till will be teaching at this hour; if so, we will consider moving the regular Tuesday OOR confcall time to accommodate it.)     (1G40)

[8:14] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:12am PDT --     (1G41)

-- end in-session chat-transcript --     (1G42)

6. Action items:     (1G43)

7. Any Other Business: ... (deferred to the next meeting)     (1G45)

  • we have decided to host a community session to collect input, discuss, and gain consensus on the approach towards the "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories" - this is now scheduled for Tue 2013.10.08 - start-time: 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00pm CEST / 3:00pm BST / 1400 UTC     (1G46)
    • we hope stewards of current and developing ontology repositories (folks from BioPortal, SOCoP-OOR, COLORE, Ontohub, and various OOR nodes ... and other domain ontology repositories, like, for Standards, space-portal, etc. )     (1G46A)

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:     (1G47)

  • next Meeting - Tue 2013.09.17 - OOR Common UI - chair: Ken Baclawski ... with opening brief from DanielCouteVale     (1G48)
  • after that we'll have ...     (1G49)
    • Tue 2013.10.01 - regular (monthly) OOR Team planning & admin meeting     (1G49A)
    • Tue 2013.10.08 - "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories" - co-chairs: Till Mossakowski & Michael Grüninger     (1G49B)
      • ... We hope stewards of current and developing ontology repositories (folks from BioPortal, SOCoP-OOR, COLORE, Ontohub, and various OOR nodes ... and other domain ontology repositories, like, for Standards, SpacePortal, Financial Industry, etc.) will join us in this session, share their thoughts and help develop a consensus.     (1G49B1)
  • please also join this Thursday's ONTOLOG Community Planning Session: Event Scheduling for the Rest of 2013: ConferenceCall_2013_09_12     (1G50)
  • regular meeting start-times will be: 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00pm CEST / 3:00pm BST / 1400 UTC     (1G51)
  • 1st Tuesdays of each month will be for OOR team regular monthly confcall - for admin/planning     (1G52)
  • 2nd Tuesdays of each month will be for OOR-hackathon     (1G53)
  • ... please mark your calendars and make sure you can come!     (1G54)

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2013.09.10-11:26am PDT     (1G57)

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.     (1G58)


Resources     (1H)

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:     (1H18)


This page has been migrated from the OntologWiki - Click here for original page     (1H27)