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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning" Discussion Session - Tue 2012_11_20     (1)

Key Topic for Discussion: OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning     (1A)

Session Chair: PeterYim & KenBaclawski     (1B)

This is a continuation from the "OOR Strategy" session of 2012.11.06. Please refer to proceedings from that meeting at OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_11_06     (1C)

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Attendees     (1E)

Agenda Ideas     (1E5)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1F)

1. Meeting called to order:     (1F4)

2. Roll Call:     (1F8)

3. Key discussion: OOR Strategy and Funding - "A mini Strategic Planning Brainstorm Session"     (1F11)

3.0 Announcements & Reports     (1F12)

  • Peter P. Yim suggested we engage the Research Data Alliance - an emerging global "Data" effort aimed towards getting researchers around the world to share and use research data without barriers. The purpose of the Research Data Alliance is to accelerate international data-driven innovation and discovery by facilitating research data sharing and exchange, use and re-use, standards harmonization, and discoverability. This will be achieved through the development and adoption of infrastructure, policy, practice, standards, and other deliverables. - ref. http://rd-alliance.org     (1F14)

3.1 The "classic" (7-step) Strategic Planning process:     (1F15)

3.2 At our last (Tue 2012.11.06) session, we deliberated on (ii) & (iii) (including 3.3 ~ 3.5 below). Let's focus today's discussion (iv) (3.6 ~ 3.9 below)     (1F24)

3.3 (ii) Strategic Analyses - SWOT: Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats     (1F25)

3.4 For (iii) & (iv), let us make sure we stay "relevant" - and shape ours using the Curt Carlson / SRI "NABC" model ...     (1F26)

3.5 Discussion: strategically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 12 to 36 months     (1F31)

3.6 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months     (1F32)

... to provide synergies for all.     (1F34)

3.7 Discussion: how shall we get our resources / funding     (1F35)

3.8 Action Plans     (1F36)

3.9 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like     (1F37)

4. References: most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...     (1F38)

  • 4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)     (1F41)
    • (discussion 2011.05.06):     (1F41A)
      • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all     (1F41A1)
    • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively     (1F41B)
      • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?     (1F41B1)
    • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...     (1F41C)
      • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:     (1F41C1)
        • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents     (1F41C1A)
        • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR     (1F41C1B)
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)     (1F45)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]     (1F45A)

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session     (1G)

see raw transcript here.     (1G1)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1G2)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1G3)

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --     (1G4)

[07:32] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the     (1G5)

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning" Discussion Session - Tue 2012_11_20     (1G6)

Key Topic for Discussion: OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning     (1G7)

Session Chair: PeterYim & KenBaclawski     (1G8)

This is a continuation from the "OOR Strategy" session of 2012.11.06. Please refer to proceedings     (1G9)

Attendees: Peter P. Yim (co-chair), Ken Baclawski (co-chair), Michael Grüninger, Todd Schneider, Mike Dean, FrankOlken.     (1G12)

Proceedings:     (1G13)

[07:33] Michael Grüninger: Today is the start of the Toronto Ontology Festival (TOFFEE 2012)     (1G15)

featuring three seminars by Oliver Kutz     (1G16)

[07:53] Frank Olken: @MichaelGruninger Is there a web page for Toronto Ontology Festival (TOFFEE     (1G17)

2012)? Will papers / slides / videos be posted to web? ... Michael Grüninger: the event is informal,     (1G18)

but papers will be posted on the web (later)     (1G19)

[07:44] Frank Olken: == speaking of talks at ISWC last week.     (1G20)

[07:37] Ken Baclawski: There is a possibility that SAP would be interested in helping to develop the     (1G21)

OOR in connection with OData. It will be a few weeks before I find out whether this is more than     (1G22)

just a possibility. It will involve speaking more with the SAP representatives on the OData TC.     (1G23)

[07:39] Frank Olken: Ken, SAP would participate via its labs in Germany, US, or Korea?     (1G24)

[07:39] Frank Olken: Ken said SAP Germany.     (1G25)

[07:43] Todd Schneider: Natural ontology?     (1G26)

[07:43] Frank Olken: Very interesting talk: The Not-So-Easy Task of Computing Class Subsumptions in     (1G27)

OWL RL (spotlight) Markus Kroetzsch. Markus made the point that inference about T-boxes sometimes     (1G28)

requires consideration of the A-box information.     (1G29)

[07:45] Frank Olken: Papers from International Semantic Web Conference (ISWC) are located on the     (1G30)

[07:46] Frank Olken: Some of the workshops at ISWC posted their papers to CEUR, e.g. Workshop on     (1G32)

[07:47] Frank Olken: The main site for CEUR (a list of proceedings) is: http://ceur-ws.org/     (1G34)

[07:47] Frank Olken: Next year ISWC will be located in Sydney, Australia.     (1G35)

[07:49] Frank Olken: IOS Press was selling FOIS proceedings and also STIDS proceedings. (Very     (1G36)

expensive).     (1G37)

[07:50] Frank Olken: Also, Enrico Motta (Italy) was demoing a system for analyzing and visualizing     (1G38)

social networks related to citation networks.     (1G39)

[07:53] Michael Grüninger: Ontology Matching uses the testing environment from the SEALS project     (1G40)

(Semantic Evaluation at Large Scale) http://www.seals-project.eu     (1G41)

[07:59] Todd Schneider: If OOR supports patterns, will that require a more sophisticated     (1G42)

classification' mechanism? In particular, how will search/find capabilities be impacted?     (1G43)

[08:02] Ken Baclawski: One unanswered question about patterns is whether they just ontologies or they     (1G44)

are a different concept. In either case, it would be useful to examine the existing use cases     (1G45)

(especially search) to determine whether they impact the use case. There could also be new use     (1G46)

[07:54] Frank Olken: Some of the talks at ISWC (keynotes?) were videotaped and will be posted     (1G48)

(somewhere) on the web.     (1G49)

[08:34] Mike Dean: Semantic Web conference/dogfood ontology is at http://data.semanticweb.org     (1G50)

[07:58] Peter: == another opportunity: building on the US federal initiatives and support toward     (1G51)

Data - bigdata, research-data, etc.     (1G52)

[08:02] Peter P. Yim: DWF (Data Web Forum) is evolving into the Research Data Alliance -     (1G53)

http://rd-alliance.org - suggest we engage them - their US effort is championed by Fran Berman at     (1G54)

RPI (and she is receptive to the collaboration)     (1G55)

[08:08] Frank Olken: Peter: RDA NSF program officer: Bob Chadduck (Bob is receptive to working with     (1G56)

[07:59] Frank Olken: Research Data Alliance http://rd-alliance.org/     (1G58)

[08:00] Frank Olken: the coming RDA Launch and Plenary Meeting in Gothenburg on March 18-20 2013.     (1G59)

[08:06] Frank Olken: NSF-Supported Research Data Alliance/U.S. Collaborates with International     (1G60)

[08:06] Frank Olken: The international launch and first plenary of the RDA will be held in     (1G62)

Gothenburg, Sweden, in March of 2013.     (1G63)

[08:10] Frank Olken: Research Data Alliance October 1-3, 2012 Westin Arlington Gateway meeting agenda     (1G64)

[08:12] Peter P. Yim: == back to our main discussion: ref.     (1G66)

[08:12] Peter P. Yim: Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help put the recently     (1G68)

refined OOR Strategy in place (3IG2) explore how we might possibly leverage (3IG3) (i) the upcoming     (1G69)

Ontology Summit 2013, (3IG4) (ii) the OntologyBasedStandards initiative, and (3IG5) (iii) IAOA, ... to     (1G70)

provide synergies for all. (3IG6)     (1G71)

[08:15] Michael Grüninger: One possible topic might be the area around data curation and ontology     (1G72)

[08:23] Ken Baclawski: Continuing with Michael's suggestion, it would be good to include not only     (1G75)

data curation and ontology quality but also big data. More precisely, the motivation for curation     (1G76)

and quality is to support big data. This would tie it in with a number of the suggestions as well as     (1G77)

with some recent important topics.     (1G78)

[08:24] Peter P. Yim: Peter / Michael: consolidate various existing Ontology-Standards efforts into the     (1G79)

[08:24] Frank Olken: Steve Ray (CMU Silicon Valley) is interested in the use of ontologies for Smart     (1G81)

Grid data exchange standards.     (1G82)

[08:25] Michael Grüninger: We can use the ontologies within standards that have already been     (1G83)

presented in earlier Ontolog sessions as candidates for the Content track within OOR. The idea will     (1G84)

be that all of these ontologies will appear in some OOR instance     (1G85)

[08:30] Peter P. Yim: think: ontology for research & conference papers     (1G86)

[08:31] Peter P. Yim: Ken / Peter / Michael: IAOA would be in a great position to take leadership and     (1G87)

make it a mandate     (1G88)

[08:33] Peter P. Yim: == next meeting:     (1G89)

[08:33] Peter P. Yim: no OOR meeting on Tue Nov-27     (1G90)

[08:35] Peter P. Yim: next OOR meeting will be on Tue 2012.12.04 - 1.5-Hrs. starting 7:30am PST /     (1G91)

10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC ... regular OOR team agenda, plus a continuation of this     (1G92)

strategy/tactics/action-planning discussion     (1G93)

[08:35] Peter P. Yim: by then, we will have more news about Ontology Summit 2013     (1G94)

[08:36] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:33am PST --     (1G95)

ToddSchneider.     (1G97)

-- end in-session chat-transcript --     (1G98)

6. (Other) Action items:     (1G99)

7. Any Other Business:     (1G101)

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:     (1G103)

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.11.20-10:10am PST     (1G107)

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.     (1G108)


Resources     (1H)

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:     (1H17)


This page has been migrated from the OntologWiki - Click here for original page     (1H26)