Ontolog Forum
[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-05-18
Conference Call Details
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-05-18
- Date: Thursday, May 18, 2006
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC World Clock
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
- Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#"
- Agenda Comments:
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
- in particular, we will devote time into the planning of upcoming Ontolog Events
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
- view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_05_18
Attendees
- Attended:
- Rex Brooks
- Peter P. Yim
- Kurt Conrad
- Bob Smith
- EMichaelMaximilien
- Conor Shankey
- Pat Heinig
- Expecting:
- ...(add your name here)...
- Regrets:
Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion)
- more planning discussion on the events and the July 2006 Ontolog face-to-face meeting (colocated and as a part of the Protege International Workshop) at Stanford, CA
- Bob Smith:
- The OASIS Interoperability conference in general, and
- the ebXML efforts may deserve some discussion.
- Also, it might be helpful to express the direction in which the Taxo_Thesaurus Project is going, with reference to the following week's discussion.
- ...(add suggested items here)...
Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda
- Rex Brooks took the chair and welcomed everyone.
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes
- Peter P. Yim volunteered
3) Roll-call of participants
- see above
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)
- Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
- member regular meeting
- invited speaker session
- scheduled discussion
- project review
- workshop / work session
- planning
- Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person)
- Thu 2006.06.08 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" Discussion Session-2 - Moderators (organizers): EMichaelMaximilien & Conor Shankey
- Max: may want to postpone. Will discuss under item 8 on this agenda.
- a Thu in Jun. 1, 2006 TBC - Matthew West - on "ISO 18876 - integration of industrial data for exchange access and sharing (IIDEAS)" - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-04/msg00092.html
- Thu 2006.06.22 - Ontology Applications in Emergency Response Panel Discussion - Moderators (organizers): Rex Brooks & Bob Smith
- Peter: may request shuffling this schedule too. Will discuss under item 8 on this agenda.
- Thu 2006.07.23 - Ontolog F2F Meeting and Workshop colocated with the 7th Protege International Conference (Stanford, CA) - Organizers: Bob Smith & Kurt Conrad
- organizers now changed to Bob Smith, Kurt Conrad & Rex Brooks
- Thu 2006.08.24 - SOA Panel Discussion (covering SOA-RM & SOA-RA) - Moderators (organizers): Duane Nickull & Rex Brooks
- Thu 2006.06.08 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" Discussion Session-2 - Moderators (organizers): EMichaelMaximilien & Conor Shankey
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months:
- Candidate -
- Mike Genesereth - EMichaelMaximilien is inviting him on behalf of our community
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's response)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- John F. Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)
- other suggestions:
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
- Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time
- Rex / Peter: XMDR - Bruce Bargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team
- Peter P. Yim / Elisa Kendall: Pat Hayes, DeborahMcGuinness
- To be brought up for discussion:
- Chris Menzel: Bill Andersen
- Brand Niemann / Mark Musen / Peter P. Yim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
- Brand Niemann / Peter P. Yim: RoyRoebuck
- Duane Nickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
- Duane Nickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
- Chris Menzel & Peter P. Yim: Chris Menzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)
- Peter Brown & Peter P. Yim: Peter Brown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that Peter Brown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".
- Brand Niemann (2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who was to lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG. The new lead is Dagobert Soergel from University of Maryland; we should consider inviting him too.
- Mills Davis (2005.11.26) - Conor Shankey (CEO, Visual Knowledge)
- Peter P. Yim (2005.11.28) - Adam Cheyer, SRI, on the CALO project
- Peter P. Yim (Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - Mike Genesereth (director of the Stanford Logic Group)
- EMichaelMaximilien will ping Mike Genesereth and some potential UIMA speakers on behalf of the community
- Bob Smith / Peter P. Yim / EMichaelMaximilien (2006.01.23) - Tom Gruber
- suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa
- Rex Brooks (2006.01.25) - Joe Chiusano of Booz Allen Hamilton
- Peter P. Yim (2006.02.14) - Jack Park of SRI on topic maps, openiris, tagging contents, ...
- Duane Nickull (2006.02.28) - Robert Tolksdorf of Freie Universität Berlin (Germany) or someone from their group
- ref. their "Semantic Technologies in Collaborative Applications (STICA 06)" - http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/inst/ag-nbi/conf/STICA06/
- Peter P. Yim - UOS 'custodians' whom we have not had a chance to hear, in more depth: John Bateman, Till Mossakowski & Aldo Gangemi
- Leo Obrst - RobinMcEntire from Glaxo Smith Klein for his application expire (he was at the NCOR inauguration)
- Leo Obrst - BobMcGregor from Siderean (previously ISI)
- Leo Obrst - others from ISI like EdHovey, Sergei Nirenburg, ...
- Leo Obrst - RichardFikes from Stanford KSL
- Leo Obrst - Ian Horrocks from University of Manchester
- Leo Obrst - PeterPatelSchneider from Bell Labs
- Peter P. Yim & Mark Musen (new! 2006.04.29) - Tim Redmond on "The Protege API"
- Ed Dodds & Peter P. Yim (new! 2006.05.17): John Breslin of DERI on SIOC (Semantically-Interlinked Online Communities) - ref: http://rdfs.org/sioc/ & http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-05/msg00014.html
- Peter P. Yim (new! 2006.05.17): Pat Cassidy on "From Controlled Vocabulary to Common Upper Ontology" (tentative; exact topic to be confirmed.)
- Peter P. Yim (new! 2006.05.17): John Bateman on GUM and on Bremen Ontology Research Group's approach to Ontologizing their body of knowledge
- Leo Obrst / Bob Smith / Peter P. Yim (new! 2006.06.16): Martin Hepp of DERI
- Candidate -
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 3 months:
- see above
- Other candidates:
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
- Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
- Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
- Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
- Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
- Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
- candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, Mark Crawford, Elisa Kendall, Adam Pease, Mike Daconta, Jim Hendler, Steve Ray (moderator?)
- maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
- more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series
- Rex Brooks (new! - 2006.05.18) - stake in the ground - Let's do a discussion session on "registries" - maybe in Sep. 2006?
- (Rex / Max): not everyone are advocating the the use of public registries as the optimal solution for SOA, though
- Upcoming Events of interest
- May 23-24 2006 - Service Oriented Architecture for E-government Conference at MITRE - http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SOAforEGovernment_2006_05_2324
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues - no discussion
6) Follow-ups from previous calls
- A brief from the OASIS Interoperability conference and the ebXML effort (BobSmith)
- Bob: a lot of what has transpired is relevant to our upcoming F2F workshop
- Ontolog is probably the largest faction that is pushing for a semantic technology solution there
- Bob: a lot of what has transpired is relevant to our upcoming F2F workshop
- Engaging UN/CEFACT
- Kurt: suggest we schedule a UN/CEFACT-ONTOLOG joint teleconference (hopefully on a Thursday) so that we can do a focused discussion
- will need to follow-up with BillMcCarthy & Anders Tell
- Rex: there will be a joint OASIS-ITU conference in Oct. 2006 (UN/CEFACT & ebXML is related somehow)
- Kurt: suggest we schedule a UN/CEFACT-ONTOLOG joint teleconference (hopefully on a Thursday) so that we can do a focused discussion
- Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed (unless we have time) - Bob agreed that's we will take this off the agenda.
7) Current Project Status Report
- Ontolog support letter to Mark Musen / Protege project - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00032.html
- Letter despatched by Kurt Conrad on behalf of our community - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-04/msg00084.html (Thanks, Kurt!)
- Status CctRepresentation and UblOntology project work - no new update
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
- Formalization issues
- [CCT-Rep] status report
- Status of ProtegeKIF project work - no new update
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work - no new update
- report on UpperOntologySummit follow-up work
- paper submitted (2006.05.08) for presentation at FOIS-2006 (Baltimore, USA, November 9-11, 2006) - Leo Obrst et al.
- whitepaper for The Applied Ontology Journal submitted (2006.05.12) - Leo Obrst et al.
- status of OntologTaxoThesaurus project work - see discussion under item 8
- UBL liaison report - no new update
- SICoP / ONTAC liaison report - no new update
- NCOR relationship - pending - no new update
- Planning team report - see item 8 below
8) Key Issues discussion:
- Planning our events for the next quarter
- worksheet updated - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan_2006.doc (current version) ... also ref: working copy (during this call)
- Scheduled discussion events:
- Thu 2006.06.08 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" Discussion Session-2 - Moderators (organizers): EMichaelMaximilien & Conor Shankey
- shifting this (tentatively) to 2006.07.15
- Thu 2006.06.22 - Ontology Applications in Emergency Response Panel Discussion - Moderators (organizers): Rex Brooks & Bob Smith
- may shift this to "after the 2006.07.23 face-to-face" -- tentatively 2006.08.10
- Thu 2006.08.24 - SOA Panel Discussion (covering SOA-RM & SOA-RA) - Moderators (organizers): Duane Nickull & Rex Brooks
- Thu 2006.06.08 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" Discussion Session-2 - Moderators (organizers): EMichaelMaximilien & Conor Shankey
- dates being shuffled - Peter will coordinate with Max, Conor, Natasha, Rex and Bob to try to fit everything in - Ref: working copy of planner.
- ideally:
- 2006.06.01 - Application Integration / ISO 18876
- 2006.06.08 - no (special) event
- Tagging Session2 - 2006.06.15
- (update: no special event now - was:) Protege Ontology Development - 2006.06.22
- (update: have to postpone this to another time ... conclusion from a phone conversation between Peter and Natasha. =ppy/2006.05.18-15:20)
- Protege architecture & API - 2006.06.29
- 2006.07.06 - no (special) event
- From Controlled Vocabulary to Formal Ontology - 2006.07.13
- Ontolog F2F workshop - 2006.07.23
- Peter will try to tie all the dates down within this week
- ideally:
- Ontolog face-to-face workshop at the Ninth International Protege Conference that is scheduled to be held July 23-26, 2006 in Stanford, California? -- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-02/msg00028.html
- ref: OntologWorkshop_July_2006 & OntologWorkshop_July_2006/WorkshopCfp
- Kurt: draft letter just circulated
- Rex: will be able to bring in speakers from OASIS, ... etc.
- Peter: need to get the annoucnement and CFP out ASAP
- also: note registration requirements and deadlines for the Protege Conference (attendees to the workshop needs to be registered as a Protege Conference attendee.)
9) New project proposals - no discussion
10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion
11) Other business - discussion deferred
- Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards
- this is exactly what we said we'll strive to do on our charter! - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB
- November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006)
- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00020.html & http://events.deri.at/ois2006/
- EMichaelMaximilien is in contact with some of these people ... he can help relay questions if we have any
- conflict with 5th International Semantic Web Conference (same week, but in Athens, Georgia)
- abstract deadline is May 1, 2006 (so we still have some time to get organized if we want to really do something)
- this is definitely relevant to us ... let's think things over and come back for more discussion at the next call
12) Next meeting date and adjourn
- Our next meeting/callwill be next Thu 2006.05.25 - part of the call will be devoted to discussion of the recently established OntologTaxoThesaurus project
- this call adjourned 11:56 am PDT
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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.05.18-12:11pm PDT