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OpenOntologyRepository: "OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning" Discussion Session - Tue 2012_12_04     (1)

This is a regular monthly OOR Team meeting. Besides covering the nominal team status review and planning, we will continue the "OOR Strategy, tactics and action planning" discussion, and pick up from where we left off at OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_12_04, but in particular, we might focus our discussion today on what we can do at the upcoming OntologySummit2013     (1A)

  • Dial-in:     (1B4)
    • Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... (long distance cost may apply)     (1B4A)
    • Skype: joinconference (i.e. make a skype call to the contact with skypeID="joinconference") ... (generally free-of-charge, when connecting from your computer)     (1B4B)
      • when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#     (1B4B1)
      • Unfamiliar with how to do this on Skype? ...     (1B4B2)
        • Add the contact "joinconference" to your skype contact list first. To participate in the teleconference, make a skype call to "joinconference", then open the dial pad (see platform-specific instructions below) and enter the Conference ID: 141184# when prompted.     (1B4B2A)
      • Can't find Skype Dial pad? ...     (1B4B3)
        • for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"     (1B4B3A)
        • for Linux Skype users: please note that the dial-pad is only available on v4.1 (or later or the earlier Skype versions 2.x,) if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. ... (ref.)     (1B4B3B)
    • instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field from "anonymous" to your real name, like "JaneDoe").     (1B5A)
    • You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.     (1B5B)
    • thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) oor_20121211@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!     (1B5C)
  • Discussions and Q & A:     (1B6)
    • Nominally, when a presentation is in progress, the moderator will mute everyone, except for the speaker.     (1B6A)
    • To un-mute, press "*7" ... To mute, press "*6" (please mute your phone, especially if you are in a noisy surrounding, or if you are introducing noise, echoes, etc. into the conference line.)     (1B6B)
    • we will usually save all questions and discussions till after all presentations are through. You are encouraged to jot down questions onto the chat-area in the mean time (that way, they get documented; and you might even get some answers in the interim, through the chat.)     (1B6C)
    • During the Q&A / discussion segment (when everyone is muted), If you want to speak or have questions or remarks to make, please raise your hand (virtually) by clicking on the "hand button" (lower right) on the chat session page. You may speak when acknowledged by the session moderator (again, press "*7" on your phone to un-mute). Test your voice and introduce yourself first before proceeding with your remarks, please. (Please remember to click on the "hand button" again (to lower your hand) and press "*6" on your phone to mute yourself after you are done speaking.)     (1B6D)
  • Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/     (1B7)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"     (1B7A)
    • if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.     (1B7B)
    • people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the [ slides] (where applicable) and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.     (1B7C)
  • RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated, ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.)     (1B9)
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.     (1B11)

Attendees     (1C)

Agenda Ideas     (1C5)

put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place.     (1C5E)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1D)

1. Meeting called to order:     (1D4)

2. Roll Call:     (1D8)

3. Key discussion:     (1D11)

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...     (1D18)

4. References:     (1D19)

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months     (1D20)

... to provide synergies for all.     (1D22)

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like     (1D23)

  • 4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)     (1D24)
    • (discussion 2011.05.06):     (1D24A)
      • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all     (1D24A1)
    • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively     (1D24B)
      • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?     (1D24B1)
    • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...     (1D24C)
      • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:     (1D24C1)
        • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents     (1D24C1A)
        • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR     (1D24C1B)
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)     (1D28)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]     (1D28A)

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session     (1E)

see raw transcript [ here].     (1E1)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1E2)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1E3)

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --     (1E4)


Chat transcript from room: oor_20121211     (1E5)

2012-12-11 GMT-08:00 [PST]     (1E6)


[07:28] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the     (1E7)

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2012_12_11     (1E8)

Proceedings:     (1E12)

[07:28] anonymous morphed into Ken Baclawski     (1E13)

[07:34] Todd Schneider: What session tomorrow?     (1E14)

1. Dimensions of Ontology Evaluation     (1E16)

- addresses notions of verification, validation, quality, ranking, ...     (1E17)

2. Evaluation and the Ontology Application Framework     (1E18)

- looks at the problem of ontology evaluation from the perspective of     (1E19)

the applications that use the ontologies. This Framework was one of the     (1E20)

outcomes of Ontology Summit 2011.     (1E21)

3. Best Practices in Ontological Analysis     (1E22)

- focuses on the ontology evaluation based on the ontology itself, such     (1E23)

as logical criteria (consistency, completeness, modularity) and     (1E24)

ontological analysis techniques (e.g. OntoClean).     (1E25)

4. Requirements for Ontologies     (1E26)

- how do we specify the requirements against which we evaluate     (1E27)

ontologies?     (1E28)

5. Lessons from Software Engineering     (1E29)

- what are best practices for evaluation that we can adapt,     (1E30)

particularly with distributed open-source software development?     (1E31)

[07:37] Todd Schneider: How does an ontology lifecycle differ from a system or engineering lifecycle?     (1E32)

[07:41] Peter P. Yim: let's ask: what does OOR has to offer, and what can OOR gain from this upcoming Summit?     (1E33)

[07:44] Michael Grüninger: OOR can give a presentation during one of the sessions on Best Practices     (1E34)

[07:47] Michael Grüninger: OOR spin -- if you want to find good ontologies, look in an OOR instance, because     (1E35)

OOR enforces best practices through the implementation of ontology evaluation techniques     (1E36)

[07:49] Michael Grüninger: Can OOR become the github and Source Forge for the ontology community?     (1E37)

[07:52] Mike Dean: There was a series of EON workshops on Ontology (and tool) evaluation,     (1E38)

e.g. http://km.aifb.kit.edu/ws/eon2006/. It might be worth reviewing their results and perhaps encouraging     (1E39)

some of participants (mostly in Europe) to participate in the summit.     (1E40)

[08:01] Michael Grüninger: Contact MariCarmenSuarezFigueroa and possibly York Sure as Track Champions     (1E41)

[08:02] Michael Grüninger: Also, SofiaPinto is a possibility     (1E42)

[08:11] Ken Baclawski: The sodata community wiki is at http://www.w3.org/community/sodata/     (1E44)

[08:27] Michael Grüninger: OOR-related hands-on event at the Symposium     (1E45)

[08:28] Todd Schneider: Ken, how fast can you code?     (1E46)

[08:39] Peter P. Yim: an audacious idea: extreme programming of "evaluation" features onto OOR     (1E47)

(ontohub? colore? bioportal? oor-sandbox?) culminating into a integrated demo at the symposium?     (1E48)

[08:44] Peter P. Yim: (as most of us would otherwise be "double-booked") we might consider not doing     (1E49)

standalone OOR meetings, but merging the OOR discourse into OntologySummit2013-related discussions/sessions,     (1E50)

while the Summit is in session. We'll try to figure this out a bit more as the Summit program becomes clearer.     (1E51)

[08:39] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:35am PST --     (1E52)

-- end in-session chat-transcript --     (1E54)

6. (Other) Action items:     (1E55)

7. Any Other Business:     (1E57)

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:     (1E59)

  • Next Meetings:     (1E60)
    • 2013_01_15 - first meeting in 2013 - Tuesday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call - Tuesday: OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_01_15 (tentative!)     (1E60A)
      • (as most of us would otherwise be "double-booked") we might consider not doing standalone OOR meetings, but merging the OOR discourse into OntologySummit2013-related discussions/sessions, while the Summit is in session. We'll try to figure this out a bit more as the Summit program becomes clearer.     (1E60A1)
      • note: we have decided to move the start earlier by one hour (just like today's and the last meeting) - future OOR meetings will continue to start at: 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC     (1E60A2)
    • ... please mark your calendars and come!     (1E60B)

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.12.11-10:13am PST     (1E63)

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.     (1E64)


Resources     (1F)

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:     (1F17)


This page has been migrated from the OntologWiki - Click here for original page     (1F26)