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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-02-16

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-02-16
  • Date: Thursday, Feb. 16, 2006
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST / 18:30 UTC World Clock
  • Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa) - note: new call-in number
  • Participant Access Code: "686564#"
  • Agenda Comments:
    • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
    • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
    • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
      • view-only password: "ontolog"
      • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
    • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_02_16

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...(add your name here)...

Agenda Ideas

  • ...(add suggested items here)...

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
    • member regular meeting
    • invited speaker session
    • scheduled discussion
    • project review
    • workshop / work session
    • planning
  • Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person)
    • Thu Feb. 23, 2006 - Matthew West - "An Introduction to 4 Dimensionalism and ISO 15926" - confirmed (PatCassidy)
    • Thu Mar. 2, 2006 - Asuman Dogac - "Exploiting ebXML Registry Semantics in the eHealth Domain" - confirmed (MonicaMartin)
    • Thu Mar. 15, 2006 - UpperOntologySummit - Moderator: Steve Ray - organizing committee formed and working on it (PeterYim)
  • near future - Conor, Jack & Roy - Kurt and Peter will follow-up with these speakers off-line
  • EMichaelMaximilien will ping Mike Genesereth and some potential UIMA speakers on behalf of the community
  • Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - * = extended discussion under item 8 below:
    • EMichaelMaximilien / Nicolas Rouquette / Denise Bedford / Peter P. Yim - tagging the Ontolog (knowledge repository) content*
    • Rex Brooks / Bob Smith - ontology application in emergency response*
    • Other candidates:
      • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
      • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
      • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
      • Nicolas Rouquette -- other topics lined up?
      • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
      • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
      • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
        • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
      • Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
      • more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series
      • (new! 2006.01.26) - tagging multimedia and other Ontolog content for podcast & semantic search

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

  • Kurt and Peter to test out "muting all auidence", and with speaker as "organizer" - will report back.

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

  • Engaging UN/CEFACT:
    • Anders: ready to find a way forward
    • Kurt: the status - our input to UN/CEFACT, and interaction with Duane & Mary Kay
    • Anders: look forward to possibility of someone from Ontolog presenting at the March 2006 UN/CEFACT meeting in Vancouver
      • candiate speaker from Ontolog: Kurt, Bob, Duane or Bill to be our ambassador
        • (update/--Kurt) Kurt will not be available to travel that week, he'll try to ping Bob or Duane to see if they can do it.
        • how about BillMcCarthy ... are you planning to be there at Vancouver, Bill?
        • Conor Shankey (who is in Vancouver) has graciously agreed to represent the community, if Bill is not available.
  • Presenting at the OASIS Symposium 2006 (9-12 May 2006, San Francisco, CA) - Proposal submission deadline: 20 December 2005 - discussion postponed
    • Duane and Rex are submitting, requesting that they cover our (Ontolog) work as a sidebar
      • Rex will be presenting - he will put in a good word for this community
    • anyone from here going to present?
  • Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed (unless we have time)

7) Current Project Status Report - discussion postponed

  • Status of Protege-KIF project work
  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
  • UBL liaison report
  • SICoP liaison report
  • NCOR relationship - pending
  • Planning team report

8) Key Issues discussion:

(a) EMichaelMaximilien / Nicolas Rouquette / Denise Bedford / Peter P. Yim - tagging the Ontolog (knowledge repository) content - plans for two technical discussions - see discussion thread: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2006-02/msg00029.html

  • (Reference) Ontolog podcast - EMichaelMaximilien (Thanks, Max!)
    • see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidJMZ
    • see also: iTunes screen shot of our podcast (courtesy ShinyaYamada).
    • shall we advertise? --ppy: don't do this quite yet ... wait till we have someone to sponsor the bandwidth/traffic, it could become costly if we actually got lucky (and got popular!)
    • solicitation from Max - need volunteers to work on the items below:
      • pelase review the "description" and feedback on what is preferred - ref. that for 2004.09.08 and before, or 2004.09.24 and after
        • Bob & Peter feels that the version used in 2004.09.08 and before is better
      • copyright statements need to be customized
      • ownership need to be customized
      • keyword lists need to be customized
    • this dovetails into what Nicolas Rouquette have been trying to get the community to do -- tagging the community content
      • all: let's put this in as a candidate technical discussion session
    • PPY: maybe we could cast these two sessions as a pilot exercise toward building an ontology application.
    • Discussion:
      • Mills / Conor: we'll keep the SWIM-WG people informed ... to explore collaboration
      • Roy: faceted-wikis and faceted-classification ... just trying to sync up
      • Denise: let's make sure we understand each other properly in definitions
      • Peter: we are just trying to plan out two meeting today ... not supposed to discuss content ... so, 2 minutes each.
      • Nicolas: want to know (a) what we want to tag, (b) how to classify (e.g. some architecture, UIMA, etc.), (c) what tools are available to help us do it, and (d) how to extract more knowledge from the tagged content
      • Max: already tagging ontolog contents - using del.icio.us (folksonomy creation Web site and service). Using the Firefox del.icio.us plugin this is relatively easy. Just click on the purple tags on the Wiki page for a section of the page that you want to tag and click on the Firefox del.icio.us button (tag like button next to the URL link). After you are logged in to del.icio.us (which is free) you will be prompted to enter comments and list of tags. Et voila! If we distribute the work and get enough support on this, we should converge fairly quickly with a bag of tags; and bring back the tags (with, say javascript) to our wiki page. We can do analysis on the content using the del.icio.us Web service API... etc. after that
      • Jack: work at SRI - federating cultures ... means to bring together folksonomies, ontologies, topic maps, ....
      • Conor: using the wiki to establish context; how do we attach that to existing ontologies?; doing that in an eco-system, ...
      • Rex: offer another wiki for experimentation - the HUMANML wiki ...
      • Denise: the World Bank is using commercial tools to capture meta-data (about 1.5 million doc't, different languages; done very quickly). Has tried folksonomy approaches and failed miserably. To read up more, google "denise bedford"
      • Ed: request Denise to give us more info on her wiki page
  • session 1: what do we want to do? (i.e. to do with the content we are tagging)
    • moderators: Denise, Max & Nicolas
    • date: 2nd week April 2006
    • candidate panelists:
  • session 2: what are the technologies available? ... and what our choice of technology to get the job done?
    • moderators: Max & Conor
    • date: end April or early May
    • candidate panelists:

(b) any interest to participate in the SemWiki2006 (11~14-Jun-2006; Budva, Montenegro)

(c) Rex Brooks / Bob Smith - ontology application in emergency response technical discussion session

  • possibly May - Rex and Bob will co-moderate

(d) Do we want to do another Ontolog face-to-face workshop at the Ninth International Protege Conference that is scheduled to be held July 23-26, 2006 in Stanford, California? -- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-02/msg00028.html

  • definitely want to do this - consider to have Bob & Kurt lead this

(e) Call for paper - International Workshop on Engineering Semantic Agent Systems (ESAS 2006) - September 18-21, 2OO6, Chicago, USA

(e) project work session / discussion - Beginning of Year Planning for Ontolog -- to be postponed to the next membership conference call - discussion postponed (unless we have time)

  • initiatives for this year
  • action plans

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • On our next call will be on Thu 2006-02-23 starting at 8:30 am PST / 11:30am EST / 16:30 UTC/GMT - Matthew West will be speaking on "An Introduction to 4 Dimensionalism and ISO 15926." - see: ConferenceCall_2006_02_23 ... see you there. RSVP! - Do note that this session will start 2 hours earlier than our usual time!
  • this call adjourned 11:54 am PST

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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.02.16-11:54 am PST



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