Ontolog Forum
[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-01-26
Conference Call Details
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-01-26
- Date: Thursday, Jan. 26, 2006
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST / 18:30 UTC World Clock
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
- Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa) - note: new call-in number and access code
- Participant Access Code: "68656#"
- Agenda Comments:
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
- view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_01_26
Attendees
- Attended:
- Kurt Conrad
- Peter P. Yim (chair)
- Bob Smith
- Leo Obrst
- EMichaelMaximilien
- Monica Martin
- Anders Tell
- Expecting:
- ...(add your name here)...
- Regrets:
Agenda Ideas
- ...(add suggested items here)...
Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda
- Peter P. Yim took the chair and welcomed everyone.
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes
- Peter P. Yim volunteered
3) Roll-call of participants
- see above
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)
- Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
- member regular meeting
- invited speaker session
- scheduled discussion
- project review
- workshop / work session
- planning
- Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person)
- Thu Feb. 2, 2006 - Nicola Guarino - "Making basic ontological choices: the DOLCE experience" - confirmed (LeoObrst)
- Thu Mar. 2, 2006 - Asuman Dogac - "Exploiting ebXML Registry Semantics in the eHealth Domain" - confirmed (MonicaMartin)
- Thu Mar. 15, 2006 - UpperOntologySummit - Moderator: Steve Ray - organizing committee formed and working on it (PeterYim)
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months - discussion postponed
- Candidate -
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's response)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)
- other suggestions:
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
- Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time
- Rex / Peter: XMDR - Bruce Bargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team
- Peter P. Yim / Elisa Kendall: Pat Hayes, DeborahMcGuinness
- To be brought up for discussion:
- Chris Menzel: Bill Andersen
- Brand Niemann / Mark Musen / Peter P. Yim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
- Brand Niemann / Peter P. Yim: RoyRoebuck
- Duane Nickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
- Duane Nickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
- Chris Menzel & Peter P. Yim: Chris Menzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)
- Peter Brown & Peter P. Yim (new!): Peter Brown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that Peter Brown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".
- Brand Niemann (new! input/2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who will lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG
- Mills Davis (new! / 2005.11.26) - Conor Shankey (CEO, Visual Knowledge)
- Peter P. Yim (new! / 2005.11.28) - Adam Cheyer, SRI, on the CALO project
- Peter P. Yim (new! Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - Mike Genesereth (director of the Stanford Logic Group)
- Bob Smith / Peter P. Yim / EMichaelMaximilien (new! / 2006.01.09) - Tom Gruber
- suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa
- Rex Brooks (new! / 2006.01.25) - Joe Chiusano
- Candidate -
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates: - discussion postponed
- Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
- Nicolas Rouquette -- other topics lined up?
- Other candidates:
- Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
- Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
- Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
- Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
- Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
- Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
- candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, Mark Crawford, Elisa Kendall, Adam Pease, Mike Daconta, Jim Hendler, Steve Ray (moderator?)
- maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
- more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series
- (new! 2006.01.26) - tagging multimedia and other Ontolog content for podcast & semantic search
- Upcoming Events of interest
- February 9-10, 2006 - Fourth Semantic Interoperability for E-Government Conference - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FourthSemanticInteroperabilityforEGovernmentConference_2006_2_0910
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues
- (new!) Ontolog podcast - EMichaelMaximilien (Thanks, Max!)
- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidJMZ
- see also: iTunes screen shot of our podcast (courtesy ShinyaYamada).
- shall we advertise? --ppy: don't do this quite yet ... wait till we have someone to sponsor the bandwidth/traffic, it could become costly if we actually got lucky (and got popular!)
- solicitation from Max - need volunteers to work on the items below:
- pelase review the "description" and feedback on what is preferred - ref. that for 2004.09.08 and before, or 2004.09.24 and after
- Bob & Peter feels that the version used in 2004.09.08 and before is better
- copyright statements need to be customized
- ownership need to be customized
- keyword lists need to be customized
- pelase review the "description" and feedback on what is preferred - ref. that for 2004.09.08 and before, or 2004.09.24 and after
- this dovetails into what Nicolas Rouquette have been trying to get the community to do -- tagging the community content
- all: let's put this in as a candidate technical discussion session
6) Follow-ups from previous calls
- Reveiw of the Thu 2005.12.15 "Ontology Applications and Implementations" session
- what was good
- had a flurry of submissions after closing, therefore, we have a few on queue now
- had 17 people in the audience - reasonable crowd
- what needs improvement
- how would we do it differently next time
- Bob Smith: maybe have presentaters structure it to tell us:
- what is the application?
- what tools were used?
- what does the ontology look like, and how was it applied?
- how long did it take to implement, how big a scope, ...
- how successful was it?
- ref. topquadrant, michael denny, mark musen's Applied Ontologies magazine for matrices
- Bob Smith: maybe have presentaters structure it to tell us:
- other input
- Kurt: would not be hard to put together another session; probably only need a leadtime of 2~3 weeks
- what was good
- Review of the 2005.01.12 & 01.19 Leo Obrst "What is an Ontology?" sessions - discussion postponed
- what was good
- what needs improvement
- Bob Smith: Suggestion about the 30 minute Introductions Phase of Presentations with LARGE attendees: Eliminate it... (Yes, I know it is sometimes helpful, but we should be able to get this info in better ways....)
- how would we do it differently next time
- other input
- Engaging UN/CEFACT:
- Anders: ready to find a way forward
- Kurt: the status - our input to UN/CEFACT, and interaction with Duane & Mary Kay
- Anders: Modelers Reference Initiative (MRI) - a community (just started) now going with a bi-weekly (generally alternating Wednesdays) conference call
- would like to invite Ontolog to present
- can reciprocate by directing people to Ontolog
- Kurt: let's track when a new version (where some of our comments were folded in) comes out that we should further comment on
- Peter / Anders: let's try to have a phone-bridged joint sub-session betwwen the March UpperOntologySummit and the UN/CEFACT meeting (they both happen on the same week.) - [Anders and Peter to work out the details off-line]
- best possibility is late mroning EST / early morning PST Wed 3/15/06 maybe 1 hour to share between UN/CEFACT and the UO folks
- (updated/--ppy) on further discussion, phone conferencing does not seem to be the most appropriate medium after all; we'll focus on doing the following (as suggested by Anders)
- best possibility is late mroning EST / early morning PST Wed 3/15/06 maybe 1 hour to share between UN/CEFACT and the UO folks
- Anders: look forward to possibility of someone from Ontolog presenting at the March 2006 UN/CEFACT meeting in Vancouver
- candiate speaker from Ontolog: Kurt, Bob or Duane to be our ambassador
- (update/--Kurt) Kurt will not be available to travel that week, he'll try to ping Bob or Duane to see if they can do it.
- candiate speaker from Ontolog: Kurt, Bob or Duane to be our ambassador
- Presenting at the OASIS Symposium 2006 (9-12 May 2006, San Francisco, CA) - Proposal submission deadline: 20 December 2005 - discussion postponed
- Duane and Rex are submitting, requesting that they cover our (Ontolog) work as a sidebar
- anyone from here going to present?
- Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed
7) Current Project Status Report - discussion postponed
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
- Formalization issues
- [CCT-Rep] status report
- Status of Protege-KIF project work
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
- UBL liaison report
- SICoP liaison report
- NCOR relationship - pending
- Planning team report
- UpperOntologySummit - organizing committee report
8) project work session / discussion - Beginning of Year Planning for Ontolog -- to be postponed to the next membership conference call
- SWOT Analysis - see BobSmith's chart: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Plans--BobSmith_Q1-2006_1a.doc
- strengths
- weaknesses
- opportunities
- threats
- initiatives for this year
- action plans
9) New project proposals - no discussion
10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion
11) Other business - no discussion
12) Next meeting date and adjourn
- next call will be on Thu 2006-02-22 starting at 10:30 am PST - Nicola Guarino will be speaking on "Making basic ontological choices: the DOLCE experience." - see: ConferenceCall_2006_02_02 ... see you there. RSVP!
- the 4th Semantic Technology for eGoverment conference will be in session the following Thursday - shall we skip our regular call that week?
- this call adjourned 11:51 am PST
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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.01.26-11:54 am PST