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Ontology Summit 2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010

Ontology Summit 2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"

  • Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"
  • Panelists:
    • Dr. AmandaVizedom - "What Are We Training For?" - [ slides ]
    • Professor ArturoSanchez & Dr. AntonyGalton - "State of Ontologist Education and Training" - [ slides ]
    • Mrs. ElizabethFlorescu & Mr. PeterYim - "Future of Ontologists" - [ slides ]

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Thursday, 4-March-2010
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Theme: Ontology Summit 2010 - Creating the Ontologists of the Future

This is our 5th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO and IAOA with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future" and was launched on 10-Dec-2009. Like previous years, this Ontology Summit will comprise of three months of virtual discourse, over our archived mailing lists, wiki, and virtual panel sessions (like this one), and will culminate in a 2-day face-to-face workshop/symposium to be held on Mon & Tue, 15 & 16-March-2010 at NIST (Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.)

  • Session Topic: Synthesizing the Community Input
  • . Abstract:
We shall be spending time at this session to look through the survey results and make sense of of the collective community input. Each of our 3 survey/study designers will present the collected input, make a first cut synthesis, and, in particular identify specific input that might impact what we produce as our consolidated "training content" document.
The session will then go into Q&A and open discussion.

Agenda & Proceedings

OntologySummit2010 - virtual panel-5 - Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
    • 1. Opening - chair: Steve Ray (5 min.)
    • 2. Panelists' Presentation of Survey Findings - (20 min. each)
    • 3. Q & A and open discussion on what the community wants to achieve in this Summit (All ~30 min.) -- please refer to process above
    • 4. Conclusion / Follow-up - chair: Steve Ray

Transcript of the online chat during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

Welcome to the Ontology Summit 2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010

Ontology Summit 2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"

  • Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"
  • Panelists: o Dr. Amanda Vizedom - "What Are We Training For?" (Reporting on Requirements Survey-2

Results) o Professor Arturo Sanchez & Dr. Antony Galton - "State of Ontologist Education and Training"

(Reporting on Education Survey-1 Results) o Mrs. Elizabeth Florescu & Mr. Peter P. Yim - "Future of

Ontologists" (Reporting on Future RTDelphi Study-3 Results) . Please refer to details on the session

page at: .

anonymous morphed into Amanda Vizedom

anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu

anonymous morphed into Ravi Sharma

anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu

anonymous morphed into Bruce Bray

anonymous morphed into Megan Mickelson

Ravi Sharma: @Amamnda: Wonderful work and presentation, Analytics rich and usable by us as we move

forward even post Summit. Regards. Ravi

Steve Ray: Interesting to note that only a quarter of respondents are from education. That's good for

broad coverage.

Ravi Sharma: @Amanda: For later response - Since I did not save my answers, can I retrieve my own

answers to compare where I stand in the overall responses. I do not want acesss to others surveys?

Amanda Vizedom: @Ravi - I don't think that there is any way to do that.

Megan Mickelson: @Amanda: I'm sorry if you covered this, but who exactly was surveyed?

Arturo Sanchez: @Megan: see -

Megan Mickelson: Thank you Arturo

Arturo Sanchez: @Megan: my pleasure

Amanda Vizedom: @Megan: The link Arturo provided gives intended audience. However, we didn't have an

obvious way to communicate the invitation and motivation to that audience. In fact, we ended up

stepping-out the solicitation in a somewhat ad-hoc way, starting with members of the Ontolog and

Ontology Summit mailing lists and requesting that members help to distribute the solicitation

further. We also asked participants in sessions like this one to provide further suggestions. I

collected those suggestions and others provided in the survey, on the mailing list, or in direct

communication, and sent email solicitations to those people as well. Finally, I posted the broad

solicitation text on the wiki (as linked on the Surveys main page) in order to have a link to post

in short forms such as Twitter. This I tweeted, in various forms, to hashtags: #ontology,

  1. linkeddata, #semantic, #semanticweb, #ontologysummit2010, #iswc2009, #tbc09, perhaps others. It got

some pickup and ReTweet action, but with more lead time I think we could expect more. I also posted

to the related LinkedIn groups I could find.

Amanda Vizedom: @Megan - That's just the broad sweeps. I also pinged my own professional contacts; I

expect others did, too.

Megan Mickelson: Thank you, Amanda.

Amanda Vizedom: @Megan, and all: You're welcome. Note that the survey is still open through 11 Mar -

I will do an update before the Symposium. Please feel free to pass along to others you think should


Arturo Sanchez: Yes, very good session! We should have more sessions like that!

Steve Ray: @Amanda: It would be good to cross-check slide 16 results with the proposed curriculum.

Steve Ray: @Amanda: Similarly with slide 28.

Steve Ray: @Peter: We need to be careful to distinguish mass understanding from mass appreciation, of

ontology. The RT Delphi study asked about mass understanding.

Peter P. Yim: @Steve: fair, point well taken ... that said, I was using "appreciation" in a loose colloquial sense

(note: it's not on the slide (slide#13)) ... since "appreciation" for mathematics, physics or music takes on

rather different meanings [this clarification was added subsequently]

Amanda Vizedom: Addendum to what Peter is saying: much of the European and/or Academic development is

not addressed to the what I perceive as the largest persistent needs. At ISWC, many of the

presenters agreed but had no way of getting actual industrial use cases.

Ravi Sharma: @Amanda: Just to record the Question slightly out of scope but related to Peter's

Comment, I was wondering if it is possible to filter or project likelihood of decision maker type

professionals / managers views in support of ontologies, may be we have to do another federal and

R&D manager's survey to be able to get an idea of their awareness of power of ontologies to solve

their problems.

Amanda Vizedom: Agree with Arturo about opportunity in Health area. Want to add: Transparency and

Interoperability are also funded priorities in the US now. Not clear to me whether the communication

path between those with the need and those with the solution is any better.

Jeremy Arca: Wondering if anyone can recommend some good Ontology development courses that one can take?

Maria Keet: @amanda: on lack of industry use cases: could it be that industry does not want to shout

around they are using ontologies, as competitive advantage?

Amanda Vizedom: @Maria: possibly, but also many orgs needing semantic solutions are gov and don't

have good mechanisms for doing so.

Amanda Vizedom: Recording my comment on the phone:There has been some off-line suggestion that we

develop mechanisms of gathering info on an ongoing basis. The idea would be to further develop these

snapshots and create some means of regularly updating them. For future discussion...

Peter P. Yim: The survey results are accessible from the Survey page at: (look towards the end of each


Jeremy Arca: There is a Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences (HCLS) Interest Group


Arturo Sanchez: @Jeremy Arca: yes, I was aware of it ... thanks!

Joel Bender: Thank you!

Maria Keet: thanks for conducting and synthesising the survey results! bye

Ravi Sharma: @Steve: are there requirements other than NIST ack of participation request.

Ravi Sharma: thanks.

Peter P. Yim: thank you all for participation ... talk to you again next Thu 2010.03.11 at the "Sync-up"

virtual session, before we all head toward the Mar 15&16 Symposium

Peter P. Yim: -- session ended 12:3 pm PST --

-- end of chat session --

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An Open Invitation

If you do find this initiative interesting or useful, we cordially invite you to join us in the "Ontology Summit 2010" virtual discourse that will be taking place in the next 3 months or so, and to the face-to-face workshop that will be held on 15 & 16-March-2010 as part of the NIST Interoperability Week in Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.

  • Join us at the final virtual panel discussion (on the Ontolog Forum) next week - "Review and Alignment of Draft Deliverables and Final sync-up prior to the symposium" - see: ConferenceCall_2010_03_11
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  • Conference Date and Time: 4-Mar-2010 10:38am ~ 12:32 pm Pacific Standard Time
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