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Ontology Summit 2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010     (1)

Ontology Summit 2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"     (1A)

  • Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"     (1A1)

  • Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/     (1A5E)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"     (1A5E1)
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    • people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the slides above and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.     (1A5E3)
  • Discussions and Q & A:     (1A5F)
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  • Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.     (1A5J)

Attendees     (1B)

  • Expecting:     (1B2)
    • ... if you are coming to the session, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above; or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...     (1B3A)

Resources     (1B5)

Theme: Ontology Summit 2010 - Creating the Ontologists of the Future     (1C)

This is our 5th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO and IAOA with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future" and was launched on 10-Dec-2009. Like previous years, this Ontology Summit will comprise of three months of virtual discourse, over our archived mailing lists, wiki, and virtual panel sessions (like this one), and will culminate in a 2-day face-to-face workshop/symposium to be held on Mon & Tue, 15 & 16-March-2010 at NIST (Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.)     (1C1)

We shall be spending time at this session to look through the survey results and make sense of of the collective community input. Each of our 3 survey/study designers will present the collected input, make a first cut synthesis, and, in particular identify specific input that might impact what we produce as our consolidated "training content" document.     (1C4)
The session will then go into Q&A and open discussion.     (1C5)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1D)

OntologySummit2010 - virtual panel-5 - Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"     (1D1)

Transcript of the online chat during the session     (1D3)

see raw transcript here.     (1D3A)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1D3B)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1D3C)

-- begin of chat session --     (1D3D)

Welcome to the Ontology Summit 2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010     (1D3E)

Ontology Summit 2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"     (1D3F)

  • Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"     (1D3G)

Results) o Professor Arturo Sanchez & Dr. Antony Galton - "State of Ontologist Education and Training"     (1D3J)

(Reporting on Education Survey-1 Results) o Mrs. Elizabeth Florescu & Mr. Peter P. Yim - "Future of     (1D3K)

Ontologists" (Reporting on Future RTDelphi Study-3 Results) . Please refer to details on the session     (1D3L)

anonymous morphed into Amanda Vizedom     (1D3N)

anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu     (1D3O)

anonymous morphed into Ravi Sharma     (1D3P)

anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu     (1D3Q)

anonymous morphed into Bruce Bray     (1D3R)

anonymous morphed into Megan Mickelson     (1D3S)

Ravi Sharma: @Amamnda: Wonderful work and presentation, Analytics rich and usable by us as we move     (1D3T)

forward even post Summit. Regards. Ravi     (1D3U)

Steve Ray: Interesting to note that only a quarter of respondents are from education. That's good for     (1D3V)

broad coverage.     (1D3W)

Ravi Sharma: @Amanda: For later response - Since I did not save my answers, can I retrieve my own     (1D3X)

answers to compare where I stand in the overall responses. I do not want acesss to others surveys?     (1D3Y)

Amanda Vizedom: @Ravi - I don't think that there is any way to do that.     (1D3Z)

Megan Mickelson: @Amanda: I'm sorry if you covered this, but who exactly was surveyed?     (1D3AA)

Megan Mickelson: Thank you Arturo     (1D3AC)

Arturo Sanchez: @Megan: my pleasure     (1D3AD)

Amanda Vizedom: @Megan: The link Arturo provided gives intended audience. However, we didn't have an     (1D3AE)

obvious way to communicate the invitation and motivation to that audience. In fact, we ended up     (1D3AF)

stepping-out the solicitation in a somewhat ad-hoc way, starting with members of the Ontolog and     (1D3AG)

Ontology Summit mailing lists and requesting that members help to distribute the solicitation     (1D3AH)

further. We also asked participants in sessions like this one to provide further suggestions. I     (1D3AI)

collected those suggestions and others provided in the survey, on the mailing list, or in direct     (1D3AJ)

communication, and sent email solicitations to those people as well. Finally, I posted the broad     (1D3AK)

solicitation text on the wiki (as linked on the Surveys main page) in order to have a link to post     (1D3AL)

in short forms such as Twitter. This I tweeted, in various forms, to hashtags: #ontology,     (1D3AM)

  1. linkeddata, #semantic, #semanticweb, #ontologysummit2010, #iswc2009, #tbc09, perhaps others. It got     (1D3AN)

some pickup and ReTweet action, but with more lead time I think we could expect more. I also posted     (1D3AO)

to the related LinkedIn groups I could find.     (1D3AP)

Amanda Vizedom: @Megan - That's just the broad sweeps. I also pinged my own professional contacts; I     (1D3AQ)

expect others did, too.     (1D3AR)

Megan Mickelson: Thank you, Amanda.     (1D3AS)

Amanda Vizedom: @Megan, and all: You're welcome. Note that the survey is still open through 11 Mar -     (1D3AT)

I will do an update before the Symposium. Please feel free to pass along to others you think should     (1D3AU)

contribute!     (1D3AV)

Arturo Sanchez: Yes, very good session! We should have more sessions like that!     (1D3AW)

Steve Ray: @Amanda: It would be good to cross-check slide 16 results with the proposed curriculum.     (1D3AX)

Steve Ray: @Amanda: Similarly with slide 28.     (1D3AY)

Steve Ray: @Peter: We need to be careful to distinguish mass understanding from mass appreciation, of     (1D3AZ)

ontology. The RT Delphi study asked about mass understanding.     (1D3AAA)

Peter P. Yim: @Steve: fair, point well taken ... that said, I was using "appreciation" in a loose colloquial sense     (1D3AAB)

(note: it's not on the slide (slide#13)) ... since "appreciation" for mathematics, physics or music takes on     (1D3AAC)

rather different meanings [this clarification was added subsequently]     (1D3AAD)

Amanda Vizedom: Addendum to what Peter is saying: much of the European and/or Academic development is     (1D3AAE)

not addressed to the what I perceive as the largest persistent needs. At ISWC, many of the     (1D3AAF)

presenters agreed but had no way of getting actual industrial use cases.     (1D3AAG)

Ravi Sharma: @Amanda: Just to record the Question slightly out of scope but related to Peter's     (1D3AAH)

Comment, I was wondering if it is possible to filter or project likelihood of decision maker type     (1D3AAI)

professionals / managers views in support of ontologies, may be we have to do another federal and     (1D3AAJ)

R&D manager's survey to be able to get an idea of their awareness of power of ontologies to solve     (1D3AAK)

their problems.     (1D3AAL)

Amanda Vizedom: Agree with Arturo about opportunity in Health area. Want to add: Transparency and     (1D3AAM)

Interoperability are also funded priorities in the US now. Not clear to me whether the communication     (1D3AAN)

path between those with the need and those with the solution is any better.     (1D3AAO)

Jeremy Arca: Wondering if anyone can recommend some good Ontology development courses that one can take?     (1D3AAP)

Maria Keet: @amanda: on lack of industry use cases: could it be that industry does not want to shout     (1D3AAQ)

around they are using ontologies, as competitive advantage?     (1D3AAR)

Amanda Vizedom: @Maria: possibly, but also many orgs needing semantic solutions are gov and don't     (1D3AAS)

have good mechanisms for doing so.     (1D3AAT)

Amanda Vizedom: Recording my comment on the phone:There has been some off-line suggestion that we     (1D3AAU)

develop mechanisms of gathering info on an ongoing basis. The idea would be to further develop these     (1D3AAV)

snapshots and create some means of regularly updating them. For future discussion...     (1D3AAW)

Peter P. Yim: The survey results are accessible from the Survey page at:     (1D3AAX)

Jeremy Arca: There is a Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences (HCLS) Interest Group     (1D3AAAA)

Arturo Sanchez: @Jeremy Arca: yes, I was aware of it ... thanks!     (1D3AAAC)

Maria Keet: thanks for conducting and synthesising the survey results! bye     (1D3AAAE)

Ravi Sharma: @Steve: are there requirements other than NIST ack of participation request.     (1D3AAAF)

Peter P. Yim: thank you all for participation ... talk to you again next Thu 2010.03.11 at the "Sync-up"     (1D3AAAH)

virtual session, before we all head toward the Mar 15&16 Symposium     (1D3AAAI)

Peter P. Yim: -- session ended 12:3 pm PST --     (1D3AAAJ)

-- end of chat session --     (1D3AAAK)

An Open Invitation     (1E)

If you do find this initiative interesting or useful, we cordially invite you to join us in the "Ontology Summit 2010" virtual discourse that will be taking place in the next 3 months or so, and to the face-to-face workshop that will be held on 15 & 16-March-2010 as part of the NIST Interoperability Week in Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.     (1E1)

  • Join us at the final virtual panel discussion (on the Ontolog Forum) next week - "Review and Alignment of Draft Deliverables and Final sync-up prior to the symposium" - see: ConferenceCall_2010_03_11     (1E3)
  • Registration for the 2010.03.15~16 (face-to-face & remote participation) Workshop / Symposium is now open - Join us! ... Note: No fees; but pre-registration is required for on-site participation (and that closes on Tue 2010.03.09) ... Remote participation is also supported ... RSVP now! if you haven't already ... see: OntologySummit2010/WorkshopRegistration     (1E4)

Audio Recording of this Session     (1F)

  • suggestion: its best that you listen to the session while having the presentation opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.     (1F5)
  • Take a look, also, at the rich body of knowledge that this community has built together, over the years, by going through the archives of noteworthy past Ontolog events. (References on how to subscribe to our podcast can also be found there.)     (1F6)

For the record ...     (1F7)

How To Join (while the session is in progress)     (1G)


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