Ontolog Forum
[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-10-06
Conference Call Details
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-10-06
- Agenda Comments:
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
- In particular, we will be devoting a portion of this call to work out a list of (a) speakers we plan to invite, and (b) technical discussion topics, for the next few months.
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
- view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_06
- Date: Thursday, Oct. 6, 2005
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM UTC World Clock
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#"
Attendees
- Expecting:
- Susan Golden
- Steve Ray
- Peter Brown
- ...(add your name here)...
- Regrets:
Agenda Ideas
Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda
- Kurt Conrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.
- skipping all items and go directly to agenda item 8. That's the only thing we'll try to cover today.
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes
- Peter P. Yim volunteered
3) Roll-call of participants
- see above
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)
- Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
- member regular meeting
- invited speaker session
- scheduled discussion
- project review
- workshop / work session
- planning
- Scheduled Ontolog Events
- Thu Oct. 13 2005 - Barry Smith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed (BillMcCarthy)
- Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: Nicolas Rouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep
- Nicolas Rouquette, JohnDomingue, Michael Grüninger and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
- Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -
- Doug Lenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
- Nicola Guarino on DOLCE, possibly also Bill Andersen or Chris Welty (suggested by Peter P. Yim & PatCassidy)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)
- Jim Spohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
- other suggestions:
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
- Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
- Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by Brand Niemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
- Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time
- Rex / Peter: XMDR - Bruce Bargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team
- Peter P. Yim / Elisa Kendall: Pat Hayes, DeborahMcGuinness
- To be brought up for discussion today:
- Chris Menzel: Bill Andersen
- Brand Niemann / Mark Musen / Peter P. Yim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
- Brand Niemann / Peter P. Yim: RoyRoebuck
- Duane Nickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
- Duane Nickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
- Chris Menzel & Peter P. Yim: Chris Menzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)
- Peter Brown & Peter P. Yim (new!): Peter Brown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that Peter Brown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".
- Brand Niemann (new! input/2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who will lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG
- Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to
- suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa
- Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
- Nicolas Rouquette -- other topics lined up?
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
- possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
- Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
- we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
- candidates for November, 2005
- Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
- Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
- Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
- Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
- Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
- Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
- candidate panelists: Bruce Bargmeyer, Mark Crawford, Elisa Kendall, Adam Pease, Mike Daconta, Jim Hendler, Steve Ray (moderator?)
- maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
- Duane Nickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it
- 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.
- Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog
- Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session
- Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog
- Rex asked for the availability of a next slot ...
- Kurt: likely in November
- Discussion on upcoming invitations to next week - to be covered under item 8 below
- Upcoming Events of interest
- National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html
- wants to know if call-in is supported
- National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues
6) Follow-ups from previous calls
- Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling
7) Current Project Status Report
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
- Formalization issues
- UBL Liaison update
- [CCT-Rep] status report
- Status of Protege-KIF project work
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
- representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.
- Rex: _____
- Kurt: Bob and Kurt had discussed possibilities of engaging people (with affinity in ontology and semantic technologies) from Intel now that Craig Barrett (Intel CEO) is in the AHIC Commission.
- solicitation to members of this community to suggest good candidates we should engage
- representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.
- UBL liaison report
- SICoP liaison report
- SICoP/ONTAC-WG organizing meeting on 2005.10.05
- Planning team report
8) project work session / discussion - working out our invited speaker & discussion topics for the next few months
- result of deliberation, see - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/ONTOLOG-candidate-speakers-topics_20051006d.xls
- Candidate speakers to invite (for the next few months):
- Jim Spohrer, Doug Lenat, DeborahMcGuinness, SimonBuckinghamShum, Asuman Dogac, John F. Sowa, RoyRoebuck, Nicola Guarino
- Targets: Nov. & Dec. 2005 - Jim Spohrer, Doug Lenat (PeterYim & Kurt Conrad to follow-up); Feb. 2006 - Asuman Dogac (MonicaMartin to follow-up)
- Jim Spohrer, Doug Lenat, DeborahMcGuinness, SimonBuckinghamShum, Asuman Dogac, John F. Sowa, RoyRoebuck, Nicola Guarino
- Candidate speakers to invite (for the next few months):
- candidate technical discussion topics (for the next few months)
- Nov. 2005 - Take-II of Health Informatics Landscape - Rex Brooks / Bob Smith
- Dec. 2005 - Application & Implementation - Kurt Conrad & Duane Nickull
9) New project proposals
10) Sponsorship and funding
11) Other business
12) Next meeting date and adjourn
- regular call adjourned 11:30am PDT
- next call will be on Thu 2005-10-13 starting at 10:30 am PDT - Professor Barry Smith will be speaking on "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 ... see you there. RSVP!
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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2005.10.06-11:33am