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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-09-07

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-09-07
  • Date: Thursday, Sep. 7, 2006
  • Start Time: 17:30 UTC / 1:30 PM EDT / 10:30 AM PDT World Clock
  • Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa)
  • Participant Access Code: "686564#"
  • Agenda Comments:
    • The key agenda items for this call will be to conduct our 'postmortem' on the "OntologizingOntolog"

series ... and, in particular, pursue follow-ups for our OntologWorkshop_July_2006 and 'what's next' for the OntologTaxoThesaurus project.

    • please post any suggested agenda items (under "Agenda Ideas" below) to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
    • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
      • view-only password: "ontolog"
      • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
    • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_09_07

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...(add your name here)...

Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion)

  • The key agenda items for this call will be to conduct our 'postmortem' on the "OntologizingOntolog"

series (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_08_31#nidPYA) ... and, in particular, pursue follow-ups for our OntologWorkshop_July_2006 (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_08_03#nidOVN) and 'what's next' for the OntologTaxoThesaurus project.

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Scheduled Ontolog Events:
    • Thu 2006.09.14 - Alan Rector - "Terminologies and Ontologies: What are they for? What would it mean to QA an ontology?" - see: ConferenceCall_2006_09_14
    • Thu 2006.11.30 - Co-Moderator: Duane Nickull & Kurt Conrad - "Ontology Applications & Implementations Panel Discussion - Take-II" - see: ConferenceCall_2006_11_30/Prep
    • Thu 2006.12.14 - invited speaker: Chris Chute - (PeterYim / MarkMusen)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues - jumping straight to point 8

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

  • (from our 2006.08.03 call) - Rex to be posting the notes from the interactive portion of the 2006.07.23 workshop over the coming weekend.
  • postmortem of the "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" series of events - see item 8 below (key discussion for this call)
  • Engaging UN/CEFACT
    • Kurt: suggest we schedule a UN/CEFACT-ONTOLOG joint teleconference (hopefully on a Thursday) so that we can do a focused discussion
  • Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards
    • this is exactly what we said we'll strive to do on our charter! - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB
    • November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006)
    • we should at least make Ontolog's presence known
    • Let's ping York Sure (who's on their program committee) about it when he speaks on 8/17 -- we seem to have missed that (no one seems to have brought this up at the York Sure session)

7) Current Project Status Report

  • Status CctRepresentation and UblOntology project work
    • Steve: some people (like EvanWallace) at NIST are working on ebXML and use of ebXML registry, they would be interested in what has been done
  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
  • status of OntologizingOntolog project work - see item 8 below (key discussion for this call)
  • UBL liaison report
  • SICoP liaison report
  • ONTAC liaison report
  • CUO-WG liaison report
  • NCOR relationship
  • NIST Collaboration

8) Key Issues discussion:

  • The key agenda items for this call will be to -
    • conduct our 'postmortem' on the "OntologizingOntolog"

series (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_08_31#nidPYA) ... and,

  • Discussion:
    • Pat Heinig will address "Salient Aspects and important Push Off Points" - see slides
    • input from Peter P. Yim:
    • input from Bob Smith:
      • Bob Smith: my sense is that Denise broke important ground in conceptualizing a repeatable process, or the 7-Step approach backed by powerful tools and by opportunity for intense social interaction at important points in the process.
      • It seems to complement York Sure's DILIGENT PROCESS and puts a useful pragmatic dimension for those thinking about making a committment to building Bottom-Up Top Down Taxo-Thesaurus Ontologies.
      • In addition, the project also stimulated re-thinking about several tools I have encountered over the last few years, and I had some success in constructing taxonomies and conceptual "maps" from large and medium sized collections of documents which allowed links into specific paragraphs of indexed documents in the collection.
      • Bob: our original goal was to improve SEARCH access to the body of knowledge. The following is the general outline of my revised goals and revised "pattern trees" for discussion -

TaxoThesaurusWrap_4a--BobSmith_20060907.jpg

  • Discussion (cont'd)
    • Denise: how did the F2F workshop go?
      • Kurt: we have the audio recording captured, still need post processing before we can post them
      • Rex: criteria - high / medium / low prioritization made ... Kurt will document (Peter: we've also got the whiteboard captured on pictures too!)
      • Denise: will look forward to see them.
      • Denise: I can take Bob's new tree structure as acets, and build them into profile(s) ... we should also go back to Lisa's suggested attribute
        • Denise & Peter: suggest we call for a developer with Lucene (an open source search engine) experience to join us in the project
        • Peter: ref. the SemanticMediaWiki effort (e.g. ref. the Calendar example mentioned above), we could look towards using the extended semantic capabilities offered there.
    • Peter: we need to better define our deliverables ... the current discussion is not granular enough yet. We need more specific use case scenarios, then properly defined deliverables ... we will then be in a position to identify gaps (resource, skillset, ...) that we would need to fill.
    • Pat / Rex: synergies with others collegial institutions should be pursued - NIST, NCOR, SICoP, FEA-DRM, ...
    • Jim: I'm wrestling with the same sort of issues building the "energy community", where I'm using Enegergy as the unifying concept - take a look, by clicking on "Energy Community" at: http://vkwiki.visualknowledge.com/

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • Our next meeting/call will be next Thu 2006.09.14 - Professor Alan Rector (from University of Manchester, UK) will be our invited speaker, giving his talk on "Terminologies and Ontologies: What are they for? What would it mean to QA an ontology?" - details at: ConferenceCall_2006_09_14 ... 'see' you all then!
  • this call adjourned 12:14 am PDT

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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.09.07-12:15am PDT

Attendees are requested to review the notes above, help clean it up, and make amendments and edits to better

reflect the proceedings of the session as they see fit (particularly where they are personally involved). =ppy



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