Ontolog Forum
[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-04-07
Conference Call Details
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-04-07
- Agenda Comments:
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
- view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_04_07
- Date: Thursday, Apr. 07, 2005
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#"
Attendees
- Expecting:
- Regrets:
- Paul Koch
- Michael Uschold
- LisaSeaburg
- Peter Brown (busy; relocating)
- Brand Niemann (at midst of SWANS Conference)
- BillMcCarthy
Agenda Ideas
- BobSmith's input:
- 1) What might Ontolog members do regarding Brand Niemann's XML Syntax to Semantics in vertical sectors R4P ?
- 2) The 34 available Public Responses to Dr. Brailer's RFI may be a useful corpus for semantic analysis. Do we as an Ontolog Health team want to explore some parts of this puzzle?
Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda
- Kurt Conrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes
- Peter P. Yim volunteered
3) Roll-call of participants
- see above
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)
- Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
- member regular meeting
- invited speaker session
- scheduled discussion
- project review
- workshop / work session
- planning
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
- for Apr. 2005 - Michael Uschold from Boeing - Thu 2005-04-21 - confirmed (-ppy) - see: ConferenceCall_2005_04_21
- for May. 2005 - Monica Martin from Sun - Thu 2005-05-12 - confirmed
- for Jun. 2005 - David Whitten & ChrisRichardson from WorldVistA - Thu 2005-06-16 - confirmed (-ppy)
- future candidates speakers:
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
- Doug Lenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
- Nicola Guarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or Chris Welty (suggested by Peter P. Yim & PatCassidy)
- new suggestions:
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
- possibly teaming up with SICoP and their Common Upper Ontology Working Group; and best done after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE (since we have had SUMO sessions before).
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
- Mark Greaves of DARPA - suggested by Nancy Faget and Peter P. Yim - confirmed intent; date to be fixed - would be nice to have Mark talk especially if a new DARPA program is in place.
- Jon Bosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session
- possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or Collaborative Expedition Workshop, say, in a "Multiple CoP Best Practice" event - Jun-2005, maybe? (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- discussion today: Peter to discuss with Susan again on this; after that Kurt will talk to Jon Bosak about this
- possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or Collaborative Expedition Workshop, say, in a "Multiple CoP Best Practice" event - Jun-2005, maybe? (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- Anders Tell of Business Collaboration Toolsmiths, AB (Sweden) - suggested by Duane Nickull - confirmed intent; date to be fixed
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
- In view of the great line-up of wonderful speakers, and the strong feedback that our speaker sessions (and the recordings) have really been useful to the community, we could consider doing speaking sessions twice a month - one on the regular Thursdays, and the other on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday (outside of the regilar call day) so that people (speaker or audience) who has a standing conflict on Thursdays could be accomodated too. (--suggested by KurtConrad)
- discussion today: the general consensus boils down to "one session a week" is a right level of commitment to Ontolog, unless funded projects are also involved (which is not in place yet.)
- Having one "invited speaker" every month, and one "technical discussion" session a month, scheduled into the regular weekly schedule seems about right (especially to those who have to work, on a volunteer basis, to make things happen).
- discussion today: the general consensus boils down to "one session a week" is a right level of commitment to Ontolog, unless funded projects are also involved (which is not in place yet.)
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months
- David: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
- see: Ontolog Discussion
- more work/discussion on OWL
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
- Nicolas Rouquette has a couple of topics lined up too ... we'll talk about those when he is at the call.
- discussion today: Ontologies and reasoning seems to have most interest
- Upcoming Events of interest
- April 7-8, 2005 - Semantic Web Applications for National Security
- Stanford Clinical Informatics seminar series; events on 4/8; 4/15; 4/22 & 4/29.2005 - see: http://clinicalinformatics.stanford.edu/scci_seminars/2004-05.html
- In particular, Mark Musen will be speaking Fri 2005.04.22 on "The Role of Ontologies in the Electronic Health Record."
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues
- Ontolog Charter update now officially in place - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB
- upgraded wiki system is in place. Note that one will need to login (or create an account if one hasn't already done so) before being one can edit a wiki page (hopefully, this, along with other enhancements, will help us keep our wiki site from spammers).
- note, page-based Purple Numbers now overtaken by site-based PurpleNumbers. All members solicited to help update Purple Numbers links whenever they run into one. Old links will only take one to the right page, we'll have to adjust it so that they bring people back to the right paragraph.
- possibility of SMI/CIM setting up a collaborative Protege service on the CIM3 infrastructure - Peter will start a e-mail thread on the forum to discuss this
- Adam will check with MichalSevcenko about having his new KSMSA - KIF editing environment hosted. Peter says CIM3 will be happy to host that (in addition to the SUO-KIF Browser) too.
6) Follow-ups from previous calls
- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/OntologiesConversion
- work session (at Stanford / SMI) to map CCT-Ontology v0.4 Protege version to other representations
- see below
7) Current Project Status Report
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
- follow-up call with UN/CEFACT CCTS-WG (attn: Duane)
- Duane will continue to follow-up with them and get back next week
- follow-up call with UN/CEFACT CCTS-WG (attn: Duane)
- Status of Protege-KIF project work
- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/OntologiesConversion
- work session to map CCT-Ontology v0.4 Protege version to other representations
- work session will be at Stanford (SMI) - tentatively Mon 2005.04.25 3:00~5:00pm (The Protege bi-weekly meeting and pizza is 1:30~3:00pm; the protege community is welcomed to join them.)
- Peter will create a session wiki page, and will setup dial-in for remote participants.
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
- publicly accessible NHIN-FRI responses, ref. Brand's post - see: NhinRfi/Responses
- Action?
- Bob: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_04_07#nidBYP
- 1) What might Ontolog members do regarding Brand Niemann's XML Syntax to Semantics in vertical sectors R4P ? - paper due May 13, 2005.
- 2) The 34 available Public Responses to Dr. Brailer's RFI may be a useful corpus for semantic analysis. Do we as an Ontolog Health team want to explore some parts of this puzzle? - Bob has a beta test opportunity; Brand has two vendor tools, Mark talked to Ed Hovy who indicated interest, and if we wait long enough, Adam will have a possible solution too.
- Bob has collected the paper and zipped up the corpus - Bob upload it to the file workspace so that others don't have to go through the exercise again.
- UBL liaison report
- Peter: no report
- SICoP liaison report
- FEA-RMO comments solicited - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-03/msg00027.html
- New SICoP Working Group proposed (by PatCassidy) - Ontology and Taxonomy Coordinating Work Group (ONTACG) - ref: http://colab.cim3.net/forum/sicop-forum/2005-04/msg00000.html#nid02
- status report from Planning team
- Kurt: scheduling a meeting - after the weekly calll next week (around 11:30am Thu 2005.04.14)
- team members: Kurt, Bob and Peter (try to get Leo too)
8) project work session / discussion
- no discussion today
9) New project proposals
- none
10) Sponsorship and funding
- no discussion today
11) Other business
- none
12) Next meeting date and adjourn
- call adjourned 11:17am PST
- next call will be on Thu 2005.04.14 starting at 10:30am PST
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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim
ppy / 2005.04.07 11:18am PST