Ontolog Forum
UpperOntologySummit - Conveners Conference Call 2006-03-08
Call Details
- Date: Wednesday, Mar. 8, 2006
- Start Time: 16:00 UTC / 8:00 AM PST / 11:00 AM EST / 5:00PM CET (World Clock)
- Expected Call Duration: ~1.0 hour
- Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa, US)
- Participant Access Code: "87376#"
Attendees
- Attended:
- Pat Cassidy (chair)
- Peter P. Yim
- Steve Ray
- Matthew West
- Leo Obrst
- Michael Grüninger
- Nicola Guarino
- Adam Pease
- Chris Menzel
- John F. Sowa
- John Bateman
- Expecting:
- Bill Andersen
- Jim Schoening
- Mills Davis
- Brand Niemann
- Dagobert Soergel
- Aldo Gangemi
- Chris Welty
- Doug Lenat
- Jerry Hobbs
- John Walker
- Kurt Conrad
- Mark Musen
- Ryan Kohl
- SergeiNirenberg
- Werner Ceusters
- Regrets:
- Michael Uschold (at SemTech2006)
- Maria Zemankova
- Barry Smith
Agenda (items to be discussed) Ideas
- goal of this call: reach a degree of consensus on the communique and on the issues that stand before us on connecting the ontologies
- Wiki Pages for discussion of UOS
- UOS main page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit
- UOS Discussion page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/UOSdiscussionPage
- Joint Comunique Draft: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/JointCommuniqueDraft
- Extended remarks for Joint Communique: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/ExtendedRemarks
- review UOS and prep sessions agenda and make sure everyone knows what they need to be prepare and submit prior to the sessions.
- ...(please add suggested items here)...
Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda
- Pat Cassidy takes the chair and welcomed everyone.
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes
- Peter P. Yim volunteered to take notes
3) Roll-call of participants - see above
4) Discuss purpose of the UOS
- UpperOntologySummit
- UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UOSdiscussionPage
- UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/JointCommuniqueDraft
- UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/ExtendedRemarks
- UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UpperOntologyBenefits
- UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UpperOntologyChallenges
5) Register suggestions
6) ... add items here and below ...
7) Discussion:
- Adam: why 8 custodians? (some are extensions of the same upper ontology, I see only 3 main UO's)
- we need to focus to make sure we aren't just getting a few smart people together to just talk
- suggest we focus the discussion to the 3 UO's (Cyc, SUMO & DOLCE) on how they can be merged, or if that is not feasible, how we could address the issues ... (Adam: please clean this up ... and express your thoughts at the relevant lists or pages named under 4 above.)
- Pat: note that this is the 50th anniversary of AI ... they were addressing much broader issues then
- Steve: ref the 5 points of the UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/JointCommuniqueDraft, what can we agree to in terms of intent (first 3 points) and document approaches that may be feasible
- Pat: we may need to be unanimous ... maybe a majority outcome and a minority report is prper too ... we just want to inform the public and be honest with it
- Nicola: I essentially agree with the first 4 points
- Michael: point 5 is for us to explore ... we need to investigate, in addition to just expressing opinions
- John F. Sowa: starting with terms most people alreaday agree with is a good starting point
- Pat: at a minimum, we should axiomatize to disambiguate
- Nicola: this point (axiomatization) should come out clearly too
- Pat: at a minimum, we should axiomatize to disambiguate
- some relevant ongoing work has already begun
- PSL & Cyc
- DOLCE & ISO 15926
8) UOS and prep sessions agenda review:
- UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_14
- Leo: aim to have the (near-final draft) joint communique before us prior to this meeting
- 3/14 morning - custodians/panelists have a few (max 10 min) minutes each to outline the issues (feasibility, utility, ...) from their perspective with respect to an interrelated-UO, joint communique and beyond
- 3/14 afternoon - all to review show stoppers and address them
- 3/14 late afternooon - adopt the final joint communique, discuss next steps
- 3/14 after the meeting - press interviews
- 3/14 evening - (no host) dinner together
- Leo: aim to have the (near-final draft) joint communique before us prior to this meeting
10) Next meeting date and adjournment
- Next meeting will be session 1 on Tue 2006.03.14 at 8:30am~10:00noon EST
- call adjourned 9:15 am PST / 12:15 pm EST
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above minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.03.08-09:15 am PST