UpperOntologySummit - Conveners Conference Call 2006-03-08     (1)

Call Details     (1A)

• Date: Wednesday, Mar. 8, 2006     (1A1)
• Start Time: 16:00 UTC / 8:00 AM PST / 11:00 AM EST / 5:00PM CET (World Clock)     (1A2)
• Expected Call Duration: ~1.0 hour     (1A3)
• Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa, US)     (1A4)
• Participant Access Code: "87376#"     (1A5)

Attendees     (1B)

• Attended:     (1B1)
  • Pat Cassidy (chair)     (1B1A)
  • Peter P. Yim     (1B1B)
  • Steve Ray     (1B1C)
  • Matthew West     (1B1D)
  • Leo Obrst     (1B1E)
  • Michael Grüninger     (1B1F)
  • Nicola Guarino     (1B1G)
  • Adam Pease     (1B1H)
  • Chris Menzel     (1B1I)
  • John F. Sowa     (1B1J)
  • John Bateman     (1B1K)

• Expecting:     (1B2)
  • Bill Andersen     (1B2A)
  • Jim Schoening     (1B2B)
  • Mills Davis     (1B2C)
  • Brand Niemann     (1B2D)
  • Dagobert Soergel     (1B2E)
  • Aldo Gangemi     (1B2F)
  • Chris Welty     (1B2G)
  • Doug Lenat     (1B2H)
  • Jerry Hobbs     (1B2I)
  • John Walker     (1B2J)
  • Kurt Conrad     (1B2K)
  • Mark Musen     (1B2L)
  • Ryan Kohl     (1B2M)
  • SergeiNirenberg     (1B2N)
  • Werner Ceusters     (1B2O)

• Regrets:     (1B3)
  • Michael Uschold (at SemTech2006)     (1B3A)
  • Maria Zemankova     (1B3B)
  • Barry Smith     (1B3C)

Agenda (items to be discussed) Ideas     (1C)

• goal of this call: reach a degree of consensus on the communique and on the issues that stand before us on connecting the ontologies     (1C1)

• Wiki Pages for discussion of UOS     (1C2)
  • UOS main page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit     (1C2A)
  • UOS Discussion page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/UOSdiscussionPage     (1C2B)
  • Joint Comunique Draft: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/JointCommuniqueDraft     (1C2C)
  • Extended remarks for Joint Communique: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/ExtendedRemarks     (1C2D)

• review UOS and prep sessions agenda and make sure everyone knows what they need to be prepare and submit prior to the sessions.     (1C3)
• ...(please add suggested items here)...     (1C4)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1E)

• Pat Cassidy takes the chair and welcomed everyone.     (1E2)

• Peter P. Yim volunteered to take notes     (1E4)

• UpperOntologySummit     (1E7)
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UOSdiscussionPage     (1E8)
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/JointCommuniqueDraft     (1E9)
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/ExtendedRemarks     (1E10)

• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UpperOntologyBenefits     (1E11)
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UpperOntologyChallenges     (1E12)

• Adam: why 8 custodians? (some are extensions of the same upper ontology, I see only 3 main UO's)     (1E16)
  • we need to focus to make sure we aren't just getting a few smart people together to just talk     (1E16A)
  • suggest we focus the discussion to the 3 UO's (Cyc, SUMO & DOLCE) on how they can be merged, or if that is not feasible, how we could address the issues ... (Adam: please clean this up ... and express your thoughts at the relevant lists or pages named under 4 above.)     (1E16B)
• Pat: note that this is the 50th anniversary of AI ... they were addressing much broader issues then     (1E17)
• Steve: ref the 5 points of the UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/JointCommuniqueDraft, what can we agree to in terms of intent (first 3 points) and document approaches that may be feasible     (1E18)
• Pat: we may need to be unanimous ... maybe a majority outcome and a minority report is prper too ... we just want to inform the public and be honest with it     (1E19)
• Nicola: I essentially agree with the first 4 points     (1E20)
• Michael: point 5 is for us to explore ... we need to investigate, in addition to just expressing opinions     (1E21)
• John F. Sowa: starting with terms most people alreaday agree with is a good starting point     (1E22)
  • Pat: at a minimum, we should axiomatize to disambiguate     (1E22A)
    • Nicola: this point (axiomatization) should come out clearly too     (1E22A1)

• some relevant ongoing work has already begun     (1E23)
  • PSL & Cyc     (1E23A)
  • DOLCE & ISO 15926     (1E23B)

• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_14     (1E25)
  • Leo: aim to have the (near-final draft) joint communique before us prior to this meeting     (1E25A)
    • 3/14 morning - custodians/panelists have a few (max 10 min) minutes each to outline the issues (feasibility, utility, ...) from their perspective with respect to an interrelated-UO, joint communique and beyond     (1E25A1)
    • 3/14 afternoon - all to review show stoppers and address them     (1E25A2)
    • 3/14 late afternooon - adopt the final joint communique, discuss next steps     (1E25A3)
    • 3/14 after the meeting - press interviews     (1E25A4)
    • 3/14 evening - (no host) dinner together     (1E25A5)

• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosApplicationDialogMeeting_2006_03_15     (1E26)

• UpperOntologySummitMeeting_2006_03_15     (1E27)

• Next meeting will be session 1 on Tue 2006.03.14 at 8:30am~10:00noon EST     (1E29)
  • see: UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_14     (1E29A)
• call adjourned 9:15 am PST / 12:15 pm EST     (1E30)