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Ontolog Planning Session - Thu 2008-09-04

This is a continuation of the community planning session started in ConferenceCall_2008_08_21 and ConferenceCall_2008_08_28. Every one is welcomed to join, especially if you want to get involved and/or help shape the future of Ontolog and its events. You don't have to be an Ontolog veteran or have participated at the last session to come to this one. ... Please note that the "Emerging Ontology Work Product Showcase" mini-series planning session which we had originally scheduled for this meeting slot has now been canceled.

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: Ontolog Community Operations Planning & Review Session 2008-S3
  • Facilitator: Kurt Conrad
  • Agenda: this session will be devoted to community planning, where the Ontolog CoP's "relevance", "direction", "upcoming events", "mini-programs" and "action plans" will be examined and put up for discussion.
  • Date: Thursday, Sep. 4, 2008
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM BST / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 hours
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Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • Steve Ray (has to leave after one hour)
    • (please add yourself to the list or rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>)

Agenda Ideas

  • picking up from our 2008.08.21 & 2008.08.28 Ontolog Planning sessions
  • assess how we are doing in terms of "relevance" and "value to our membership"; future direction and action planning discussion
  • plan events for the next two quarters and beyond
  • review projects, series' and institutional collaborations

Resources

  • an Inventory of Planned and Candidate Ontolog Events & Projects - ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore
  • Our 2008-S2 Planning Session proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2008_08_28
  • Our 2008-S1 Planning Session proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2008_08_21
  • Our 2006 Planning Session(s) proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2006_10_05
  • Our 2005 Planning Session(s) proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2005_03_03 & OntologPlanning_2005
  • Our 2004 Planning Session proceedings - see: OntologPlanning_2004
  • Our 2003 Planning Session proceedings - see: OntologWorkshop_Nov_2003/AttendeeContribution

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

  • review and adopt agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to capture the input from the participants too.

3) Roll-call of participants

  • process: explanation on how this session will be conducted (KurtConrad)
  • Introductions (All) & everyone's expectations (on this session)
    • Kurt Conrad: get back in touch with the community
    • Peter P. Yim: keep us relevant ... reality check
    • Doug Holmes: something concrete and show the rest of the world the "value of ontologies" ... OOR, Ontology Summit, ...
    • Ken Baclawski: scouting for research opprotunities ... OOR
    • Mike Bennett: glad to have found Ontolog ... help get the prorgam going
    • Michelle Raymond: wonderful community and good work ... keep the community and the openness ... tie in standards organizations, collaborative expedition workshop (e.g. follow-up discussions of it) ... build a policy of bi-focating (for projects incubated by Ontolog) to both open and non-open stuff
    • Bob Smith: ... wisdom
    • Harold Solbrig ... Mayo Clinic
    • Duane Nickull ... Adobe
    • Matthew West ... now retired from Shell
    • Carl Mattocks ... Checkmi - a semantic metadata service hub, agent architecture; steward of the ONION project and community which is being hosted on Ontolog

4) assess how we are doing in terms of "relevance" and "value to our membership"; future direction and action planning discussion

  • Relevance
    • Mike: Ontolog is doing a great job now ...
    • Ken: a mini-series like "Database and Ontology" was great ... that format can help us attract and involve other communities
    • Michelle: we're doing a lot of things right ... people are getting a lot out of the work ... OOR work, series works (DB, OKMDS, Measure & Quality, ...) were great ... do something that sounds a bit crazy that might become a reality down the road
    • Doug: Ontolog is a very diverse community ... the virtual events have been great ... great presentations, but no discussion on the forum follows
    • Peter: yes, very diverse ... almost disjoint activities and community segments
    • Kurt: huge energy ... definitely sustainable ... almost difficult to define a focus
  • Weakness & Improvements:
    • Doug: things look fine ... will defer on this
    • Mike: background program to help people assess
      • Kurt: ... could be political
    • Mike: tagging the content?
    • Michelle: an "Ontolog dashboard"? ... RSS feed
      • Peter: wiki "Recent Changes" are available as an RSS feed
    • Kurt: digest
    • Ken: student research projects
    • we need tools to help navigate the rich body of knowledge ... but we do have smart data already
      • migration toward purple semantic mediawiki ... the OOR effort will come into play, I'm sure

5) plan events for the next two quarters and beyond

  • "Ontology Showcase" series - co-champion: Ken Baclawski / Mike Bennett
    • ref. Emerging ontological work products showcases - let's do 2 per session, on 3~5 consecutive weeks - first one starting 9/18 or 9/25
      • encourage discussion on [ontolog-forum]
      • feature a closing session to bring everyone back for open discussion
    • [from discussion on 2008.08.28] given that we have yet to receive responses from some of those invited, and at least one (PatCassidy) has indicated interest but wanted to do this later, it is decided that:
      • we will, for now, only run one session on Thu 2008.09.25 - with Martin Hepp, MikeBergman & Mike Bennett
      • we won't need to do the (originally planned) Thu 2008.09.04 planning and coordination meeting for this series any more, for the time being
      • co-champions Ken Baclawski and Mike Bennett will take over from here, to organize the 9/25 session and continue to explore with with potential presenter via email (Ken & Mike, please keep Leo Obrst, Kurt Conrad and Peter P. Yim copied, at least, for overall coordination purposes) and forum dialog
      • [2008.09.04] other candidate:
        • Peter: Carl Mattocks and ONION would definitely be a good candidate for this series too
        • Peter: how about OASIS UBL / SET work - refer to Asuman Dogac and TimMcGrath
        • Michelle: how about DHS taxonomy work (which they didn't have time to get permission to present for our OntologySummit2008-OOR panel earlier.)
        • Ken to scan through the "Whats In Store" page and the rest of the industry for more candidates
  • the Ontolog invited speaker series
  • Matthew West will continue to explore running some sessions (not as many as before) on the "Database and Ontology" mini-series
    • new developments
    • things we did not cover in the first series (like backend technologies, etc.)
  • Duane Nickull and Kurt Conrad will plan for another "Ontology Implementation and Applications" panel session. Will lock in a date fairly soon
    • ref. 2008_11_13 - Thursday: Ontolog Operations Planning & Review - all active community members invited - ConferenceCall_2008_11_13   
    • the Thu 2008.11.27 date actually falls on the US "Thanksgiving" holiday ... Duane and Kurt will have to pick another date
  • A presentation series on OOR related topics - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore#nid1KQ7
    • the OOR-team would be more focused on development and implementation; Ontolog can complement by continuing to host dialog and presentations on related topics of interest
    • will bring this up at the OOR meeting tomorrow (8/29)
    • Michelle and possibly one more person can co-chair this - will try to discuss this tomorrow (9/5) at the OOR call
  • "Ask the Experts" projecting - co-champion: Kurt Conrad / Bob Smith / SvenVanPoucke
    • Ken / Kurt suggested: start a page where people can ask questions (to ontology experts)
    • when enough question accumulate and can be clustered, we can feature an "Ask the Experts" type session (which Sven proposed before)
    • Bob / Ken / Mike: be aware that most people don't care about "ontology", or even if they do, they don't call it by that "O" word
    • Peter: a lot to learn from the
  • think Ontology Summit 2009 -
    • Barry Smith suggested the theme of "Ontology Education"
    • more thoughts on the central theme?
    • Steve: trying to institutionalize this at NIST as an annual activity
    • Kurt: think of the West Coast or EU as a venue
  • Scheduled Ontolog Events:
    • 2008_09_25 - Thursday: "Emerging Ontology Showcase" kick-off session - Co-chair: Ken Baclawski / Mike Bennett - Panelists: MikeBergman (UMBEL) / Mike Bennett (EDMC Semantic Repository) - ConferenceCall_2008_09_25   
  • Kurt suggested starting a "Ontolog Usability" project
    • Peter: we will be migrating (from purplewiki) to a purple semantic mediawiki platform; we'll probably bring in the various ongoing semantic extensions (Karlsruhe, RPI, HAO, etc.) so we can learn more about them and put them to use
    • Michelle: think also "Ontolog dashboard"

6) review projects, series' and institutional collaborations

7) Follow-up Activities & Action Plan:

8) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • We have successfully completed and will close the (3-part) planning session for now
  • (subsequently updated) we will skip the regular conference call next week: Thu 2008.09.11
  • our next meetin, will therefore, be the Thu 2008.09.18 "Semantic Wiki mini-series Planning Session" - refer to details at the session page for ConferenceCall_2008_09_18 closer to the time
  • this planning session adjourned 11:41 am PDT

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proceedings captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2008.09.04-11:45am PDT

Attendees are requested to review the notes above, help clean it up, and make amendments and edits to better

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Session Recording of this 2008.09.04 Ontolog Planning Session

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  • Conference Date and Time: 04-Sep-2008 10:35am~11:41am PDT
  • Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 06 Minutes
  • Recording File Size: 7.5 MB (in mp3 format)
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