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Ontolog Community Planning Session - Facilitator: Kurt Conrad - Thu 2006-10-05

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  • Subject: Ontolog Community Planning Session - Facilitator: Kurt Conrad - Thu 2006-10-05
  • Agenda: the bulk of this session will be devoted to community planning, where the Ontolog CoP's "relevance", "direction" and "action plans" will be examined and put up for discussion again.
  • Date: Thursday, Oct. 6, 2006
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM BST / 17:30 UTC
    • see world clock for other time zones
    • Duration: 1.5 hours
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  • Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archives is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...(to register for participation, please add your name and affiliation here or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com>, so that we can reserve enough resources to support the session.)...

Agenda Ideas

  • Planning Committee: assessment of how we are doing in terms of "relevance" and "value to our membership"; future direction and action planning discussion
  • Duane Nickull: can we get others to share the cost to operate Ontolog?
    • funding: (a) the operation of the community, and (b) community projects
  • Carl Mattocks: explore operating the "ontologies in Ontology (ONION)" initaitive within the Ontolog setting
  • Owen Ambur: potential collaboration with particular interest in how ONION might relate to potential enhancements to the http://ET.gov site/process (ref: http://xml.gov/draft/etgovrequirements.htm)

Resources

  • Our 2003 Planning Session proceedings - see: OntologWorkshop_Nov_2003/AttendeeContribution
  • Our 2004 Planning Session proceedings - see: OntologPlanning_2004
  • Our 2005 Planning Session(s) proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2005_03_03 & OntologPlanning_2005

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to capture the input from the participants too.

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

5) Introductions (All) & Explanation on how this session will be conducted (KurtConrad)

  • Attendees' Key Objectives
    • Evan Wallace - framework on semantic applications; start project on that
    • Rex Brooks - Bob & Rex "emergency Response" session 3nd Week Jan.2007 - 2007.01.18 (note that this date has been updated subsequent to the call)
    • Adam Pease - encourage ONION to reuse formal ontologies; main interest to create (not just discuss) formal ontology standards
    • Carl Mattocks - proposing ONION project to be run in the Ontolog setting
    • Owen Ambur - collaboration between ET.gov and relevant standards that may be registered there; features, function, performace metrics;
    • Pat Hayes - find out what Ontolog is doing; endorse Adam's observation
    • Peter P. Yim - get community input to fine tune our direction, so that we bring better value to the community
    • Kurt Conrad - identify highly engaging project that people really want to participate
    • Patrick Durusau - work on how to integrate ontologies
    • Jeff Schiffel - ontologies and database designs; applications (healthcare), delivery, standards ... infrastructure, essentially. Standards, in particular.
    • Nabonita Guha - hope to get together with the rest of the OntologTaxoThesaurus team to understand more about the project's objectives, deliverables and timeline
    • Atilla Elci - suggest to work on framework for semantic SOA application especially multi-agent based paradigm
    • Jim Disbrow - introduce to management how to work in this type of community setting
  • Planning topics we want to cover today
    • ONION work - protocol (Carl: can we do this first)
    • ET.gov collabroation
    • Funding and engaging instituional donation or sponsorship
    • framework for inventorying semantic applications (as a follow-on to the TopFive work now)

6) The Planning Exercise: (facilitated by KurtConrad)

  • Discussion & Members Input below.

7) ONION collaboration: (CarlMattocks)

  • Carl Mattocks (input prior to this call): At the IT Service Management Forum annual meeting a few weeks ago we

signed up over 50 members of a CoP focused creating an Open Source Ontology. ... The scope of the ONION (ontologies In Ontology) are the frameworks of ISO 20000 / COBIT / COSO extended by ISO Security Standards and aligned with OASIS BCM (thus SOA).

    • ... How about having this CoP operate in the ONTOLOG community setting?
    • (input during this call) Carl Mattocks ONION work - protocol
      • ITSMO standard - service delivery - CMDB (configuration management) - Metlife (proof-of-concept project)
      • ISO 20000 (Dec.20005)- normative reference (embodies ISO 15000)
      • information assurance, information security, COBIT, ...
      • signed up ~50 people who would want to contribute to this work
      • Carl: target Apr.2007 to come up with the first draft ONION standard
      • Peter: welcome the effort; we default to the OASIS process (with an Ontolog Project process mapping to an OASIS TC process); essentially - 3 people, a charter, a kick-off meeting & then real work
      • Adam Pease: just got work going in information security (ref: http://commoncriteriaportal.org), that plus the existing SUMO & the QOS ontology (in KIF) could be relevant to this effort.
      • Pat Hayes: CL (Common Logic) is closing in on being an ISO standard; has an XML component; that would be desirable.
      • Peter: CIM3 is happy to provide the infrastructure - pro bono (if everyone is volunteering) and include us in funding (if this group is going that direction). Will look to the Ontolog community members to contribute to the project and bring necessary expertise to the table.
      • Kurt: we'll look to Carl being the champion, and coming back with a proposed charter and a kick-off meeting time.
      • Kurt: hopefully this time around, we have a slightly more bounded problem!
      • Peter P. Yim: I'll start an [onion-forum] list, and an ONION project home page, and continue developing some of the administrivia of the project startup with Carl Mattocks offline.
      • Jim Disbrow indicated his interest to join the ONION team.
      • Adam asked about next steps, Carl invites Adam to present his recommendations as soon as the project official starts
      • Carl will be making the call for participation again, when he posts the proposed charter and announce a date for their kick-off meeting.

8) ET.gov collaboration (OwenAmbur)

  • Owen Ambur: potential collaboration with particular interest in how ONION might relate to potential enhancements to the http://ET.gov site/process (ref: http://xml.gov/draft/etgovrequirements.htm)
    • IPv6 compliant components registry ... starting ASAP
    • ONION taxonomies and standards will be of interest
    • opportunity for collaboration - mainly with the ONION project (not particularly with Ontolog)

9) Funding: - this item is tabled for a later discussion

  • Duane Nickull: can we get others to share the cost to operate Ontolog?
  • Funding: (a) the operation of the community, and (b) community projects

10) Follow-on work from the TopFive exercise

  • Extension of
    • Bob & Kurt: framework - 30 elements
    • suggest doing a more thorough inventory, and make better assessment
    • Kurt: want to start the project with 4~5 people, 2~3 months
    • Peter: suggest using the Realtime-Delphi tool that Adam Pease and Ted Gordon (one of the pioneers who developed the Delphi methodology) has put together in their DARPA funded project, to assess and rank/prioritize the applications after they are inventoried. - Adam: Sure!
    • Team: Kurt Conrad, Bob Smith & Evan Wallace,

11) Follow-on Activities & Action Plan:

  • Kurt: for the new (and relatively sizeable) projects, teams may have their own schedule, but, do report back when we have regular conference call session, and occasionally, take on a Thursday session to report on the work-in-progress or the final deliverables.
  • Peter: do keep the work transparent, and try to make sure there are no gaps in the attempt to capture the lifecycle of the project work on our collaborative work environment (which includes the forum, wiki & shared-file workspace).

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • Our next meeting/call will be next Thu 2006.10.12 - Moderator / Panelists: Matthew West, Leo Obrst & Tatiana Malyuta will be taking us through this Kick-off Session for our Database And Ontology Mini-Series - refer to details at the session page for ConferenceCall_2006_10_12 closer to the time ... 'see' you all again then!
  • this planning session adjourned 12:06 pm PDT

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proceedings captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.10.05-12:11pm PDT

Attendees are requested to review the notes above, help clean it up, and make amendments and edits to better

reflect the proceedings of the session as they see fit (particularly where they are personally involved). =ppy

Session Recording of this 2006.10.05 Ontolog Planning Session

(Thanks to Kurt Conrad and Peter P. Yim for their help with getting the session recorded. =ppy)

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