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UpperOntologySummit - Organizing Committee Conference Call 2006-03-25

Call Details

  • Date: Saturday, Mar. 25, 2006
  • Start Time: 7:00 AM PST / 10:00 AM EST / 15:00 UTC (World Clock)
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa)
  • Participant Access Code: "68656#"


  • Expecting:
  • Regrets:

Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion)

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

  • Steve Ray took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants - see above

4) Urgent matters to be attended to

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

  • recording and transcripts
    • segment-2 of the main UOS meeting (2006.03.15 afternoon) already posted - see:
    • segment-1 could have been corrupted due to some technical issues with the new equipment (now still try to salvage)
    • the taping of the other two meetings (2006.03.14 & 2006.03.15 morning) probably not complete
    • phone line also got dropped when someone kicked the polycomm power adapter off the wall
  • Lessons learned
    • someone should be monitoring the dial-in call
    • we should provide a cell-phone number for people to call, in case anything happened with the dial-in
  • hold-off on doing transcript until we have all the recordings in (we'll decide then, if it is worth the effort and cost.)
  • we discussed some of the logistics related issues
    • venue
    • registration
    • refreshments

6) Follow-up from previous meetings

7) Status review and ongoing discussions

  • UOS postmortem
    • what went well
      • Pat / Peter: the whole series of meetings went real well (which took us, like 80% of the way even before we met in person)
      • the mailing list discussion prior to the meeting was really help
      • lots of credit should go to Doug
      • the collaborative authoring, while tedious, was worth it -- ownership, a deliverable, a stake in the ground, of historical significance, ...
    • what needs improvement
      • some of the logistics issues described earlier
    • how would we do it differently next time
      • following-up:
        • Steve: ongoing discussion in a collaborative work environment
      • e-mail discussion can be improved
        • discipline, metadata, topic-specific-threading
        • augmented by a wiki page
  • press coverage of the event
    • So far, the only article explicitly mentioning upper ontologies is this NIST Techbeat article. Our public affairs folks are sending out a more focused packet to the media targetted on the Upper Ontology Summit this coming week.
    • There are some other articles covering Interoperability Week, but none of them picked up the ontology aspect.
  • what next?
    • update to version 1.02 of UpperOntologySummit/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2006_03_25/UosJointCommunique to include added endorsements (~3/31/06)
    • do we really want a next iteration of the Joint Communique?
      • Pat: maybe one shot (to make it flow better)
      • Steve / Leo / Peter: let's leave the historical artifact (for the UOS event it is associated with) aside ... whatever addition goes into a different document
        • Steve: we should be aware that there is always the view of some people that this is a group of academics that only talks
        • Dagobert: suggestion - the first page of the white paper could be your "improved version" (Pat: good idea!)
    • institutionalizing the continuing effort
      • in what organizational form?
        • moving this into Ontolog and to engage the larger ontolog community
    • follow-ups relating to funding
      • NSF joint activities?
    • follow-ups relating to standradization
      • NIST, ISO, OASIS, IEEE ... collaboration?
    • getting to work on the intended interrelated UO deliverable
    • SICoP working relationship
    • Technical
      • Ontolog community can frame some of the issues, and bring the discussion to a point that could move it toward standardization
      • IKRIS: aligning PSL with Cyc - reach out to Jerry Hobbs and whoever else is on the content
    • Convener role of Ontolog
      • NCOR can define the directions, definitions, glossaries, maintain the quality, ...
      • NIST: methodology, quality control, testing, ...
      • the IEEE, ISO, ... will have to be developing the standards
      • Ontolog can be where people can plug into
        • Steve: possibility that Ontolog can host the registry, with NCOR doing the certification of the content
  • other discussions
    • Pat: Doug mentioned something like: it will be one man-year to express all of DOLCE in Cyc
    • putting up a glossary
      • Leo: NCOR is also planning on something like that
      • Steve: maybe we'll put "upper ontology" into wikipedia
      • Pat: I'd like to start the page on "semantic interoperability" into wikipedia, there is no such page yet

8) New Issues discussed:

  • Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards
  • also (conflicting calendar):
    • FOIS-2006 (Nov. 9~11, 2006 Baltimore, MD)
    • International Semantic Web Conferece (Athens, Georgia) - same week
    • Leo: a Rules conference around that time too.

9) Action Items

  • Leo will start a conversation on the [uos-convene] list to start a project and focus effort on "the whitepaper."

10) Next meeting date and adjournment

  • Next meeting?
    • move this into Ontolog - therefore, this conversation will continue at the next Ontolog call Thu 2006.03.30 10:30am PST / 1:30pm EST
  • call adjourned 8:23 pm PST / 11:23 pm EST


minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.03.25-8:26am PST