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Session Planning
Duration 1 hour
Date/Time 27 Oct 2021 16:00 GMT
9:00am PDT/12:00pm EDT
5:00pm BST/6:00pm CEST
Convener Ken Baclawski


The theme for the Ontology Summit 2022 will be on the subject of the Role of Ontologies in Natural and Man-made Disasters. The title will be decided later.     (2A)

Agenda     (2B)

  • 12:00 to 13:00 EDT Planning for Ontology Summit 2022 Video Recording     (2B1)
  • Reminder that Daylight Savings Time (Summer Time in Europe) ends on 31 October in Europe but on 7 November in the US and Canada. So the meeting time on next week on 3 November will be one hour earlier in Europe.     (2B2)

Ontology Summit Theme Suggestions     (2C)

Conference Call Information     (2D)

Attendees     (2E)

Discussion     (2F)

[12:25] Mike Bennett: If we want to look at overview / spectrum stuff some time, would it make sense to include pragmatics also (the role of context in determining meanings of symbols)     (2F1)

[12:26] RaviSharma: We discussed Lifecycle, Earth resources, pandemic and complex event processing     (2F2)

[12:27] AlexShkotin: role of ontology in disaster sounds funny - like as a disaster     (2F3)

[12:27] RaviSharma: role of ontologies in natural and human made disasters     (2F4)

[12:28] Mike Bennett: The potential value of ontologies in disaster scenarios?     (2F5)

[12:29] janet singer: Alex, that may be seen more clearly in hindsight     (2F6)

[12:31] Ram D. Sriram: Role of Ontologies in Natural and Man-made Disasters     (2F7)

[12:31] AlexShkotin: Janet, in the future     (2F8)

[12:33] AlexShkotin: It's like role of ontologies in Information Systems deal with Disasters.     (2F9)

[12:34] Mike Bennett: The issue is the absence of barriers to entry: people who don't know what they don't know, are able to create OWL files (syntax) and think they have dealt with semantics.     (2F10)

[12:36] AlexShkotin: Mike this is why every OWL2 ontology must refer to real texts where axioms came from.     (2F11)

[12:36] Mike Bennett: The firm as a whole needs to have something that formally situates syntax, semantics, semiotics and pragmatics. With that they will identify the need for the 3rd skill-set Gary mentioned just now - the not-the-IT, not-the-SME person who understands about semantics.     (2F12)

[12:37] janet singer: Mike, Definitely pragmatics needs to be brought out from the shadows for a systematic overview     (2F13)

[12:37] Mike Bennett: @Alex what's missing is someone who understands the (non trivial) relationships between texts and concepts.     (2F14)

[12:40] AlexShkotin: @Mike, any way when we verbalize ontology to text we need approval of this text from experts and proved texts.     (2F15)

[12:41] Douglas R. Miles:     (2F16)

[12:49] AlexShkotin: @Mike my point is that for ontologists as we known them it is forbidden to write their own texts - they must formalize existing texts     (2F20)

[12:54] Gary BC: Example of ESIP modeling some of the wildfires info flow     (2F21)

[12:56] AlexShkotin: It should be mention that for big pandemic disasters math models are a key point.     (2F22)

[12:59] RaviSharma: thanks Ken for the suggestions.     (2F23)

[13:00] Douglas R. Miles: Thank you Ken     (2F24)

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