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* Attended (along with registered participants who may have joined but missed the roll call):  
 
* Attended (along with registered participants who may have joined but missed the roll call):  
** JeanneHolm (co-chair)  
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** [[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]] (co-chair)  
 
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (co-chair)  
 
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (co-chair)  
 
** JoelNatividad  
 
** JoelNatividad  
 
** AndrewNicklin  
 
** AndrewNicklin  
 
** ChrisMusialek  
 
** ChrisMusialek  
** SamiBaig  
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** [[SamiBaig|Sami Baig]]
** GeorgeThomas  
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** [[GeorgeThomas|George Thomas]]
** JesseWang  
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** [[JesseWang|Jesse Wang]]
** JoanneLuciano  
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** [[JoanneLuciano|Joanne Luciano]]
** HasanSayani  
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** [[HasanSayani|Hasan Sayani]]
** ShivaSaberi  
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** [[ShivaSaberi|Shiva Saberi]]
** DeirdreLee  
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** [[DeirdreLee|Deirdre Lee]]
** MarthaPrzysucha  
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** [[MarthaPrzysucha|Martha Przysucha]]
** LisaHartigan  
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** [[LisaHartigan|Lisa Hartigan]]
** JackPark  
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** [[JackPark|Jack Park]]
 
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]  
 
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]  
** BobSchloss  
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** [[BobSchloss|Bob Schloss]]
 
** RichardLee  
 
** RichardLee  
** KingsleyIdehen  
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** [[KingsleyIdehen|Kingsley Idehen]]
** MikeBennett  
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** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** DavidMason  
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** [[DavidMason|David Mason]]
 
** [[MarieJeanMeurs]]  
 
** [[MarieJeanMeurs]]  
** DavidCollins  
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** [[DavidCollins|David Collins]]
** MatthewKaufman  
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** [[MatthewKaufman|Matthew Kaufman]]
 
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]  
 
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]  
** KyoungsookKim  
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** [[KyoungsookKim|Kyoungsook Kim]]
** TerryLongstreth  
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** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]
** FrankOlken  
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** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]
** EdDodds  
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** [[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]
** TomTinsley  
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** [[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]]
** JackRing  
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** [[JackRing|Jack Ring]]
** JerrySmith  
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** [[JerrySmith|Jerry Smith]]
** PavithraKenjige  
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** [[PavithraKenjige|Pavithra Kenjige]]
** AliHashemi  
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** [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]
** AnushriMishra  
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** [[AnushriMishra|Anushri Mishra]]
 
** BobLojek  
 
** BobLojek  
 
** [[DeborahMcGuinness]]  
 
** [[DeborahMcGuinness]]  
** DeniseWarzel  
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** [[DeniseWarzel|Denise Warzel]]
** ElizabethFlorescu  
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** [[ElizabethFlorescu|Elizabeth Florescu]]
 
** MarkDixon  
 
** MarkDixon  
 
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]  
 
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]  
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** lisa_h  
 
** sdupd_glenn  
 
** sdupd_glenn  
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* Expecting:  
 
* Expecting:  
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* Regrets:  
 
* Regrets:  
 
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]  
 
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]  
** AmandaVizedom (have conflict, but will view/listen to archive later)  
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** [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]] (have conflict, but will view/listen to archive later)  
 
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]  
 
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]  
 
** ...  
 
** ...  
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* (a) the recent US federal government's thrust toward developing and leveraging 'Big Data'  
 
* (a) the recent US federal government's thrust toward developing and leveraging 'Big Data'  
* (b) the 3-month long OntologySummit2012 series of events that just finished a few weeks ago that was focused around the theme 'Ontology for Big Systems' and  
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* (b) the 3-month long [[OntologySummit2012|Ontology Summit 2012]] series of events that just finished a few weeks ago that was focused around the theme 'Ontology for Big Systems' and  
 
* (c) New York City's award of their 'Big Apps 3.0' grand prize to NYCfacets (developed by a member of this community, in an applications that leverages ontology and semantic technologies); and the City's 'open data' initiative that followed.  
 
* (c) New York City's award of their 'Big Apps 3.0' grand prize to NYCfacets (developed by a member of this community, in an applications that leverages ontology and semantic technologies); and the City's 'open data' initiative that followed.  
  
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* '''Session Format:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call  
 
* '''Session Format:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call  
  
* 1. Opening (chair) - JeanneHolm [10 min.] ... [ [[ConferenceCall_2012_05_10|slides]] ]  
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* 1. Opening (chair) - [[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]] [10 min.] ... [ [[ConferenceCall_2012_05_10|slides]] ]  
 
* 2. Panel briefings [20 min. each]  
 
* 2. Panel briefings [20 min. each]  
 
** ChrisMusialek - "Empowering City Developers with Federal Data"  
 
** ChrisMusialek - "Empowering City Developers with Federal Data"  
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-- begin in-session chat-transcript --  
 
-- begin in-session chat-transcript --  
  
PeterYim: Welcome to the  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the  
  
 
''' Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012-05-10 '''  
 
''' Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012-05-10 '''  
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- invited presentation on NYCFacets and introduction to New York City's 'Open' initiatives"  
 
- invited presentation on NYCFacets and introduction to New York City's 'Open' initiatives"  
  
Session Co-chair: JeanneHolm (Data.gov / NASA-JPL) & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (Ontolog / CIM3)  
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Session Co-chair: [[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]] (Data.gov / NASA-JPL) & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (Ontolog / CIM3)  
  
 
Panel Briefings:  
 
Panel Briefings:  
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''' Proceedings: '''  
 
''' Proceedings: '''  
  
PeterYim: Attention ALL: because of time constraints from some of our panelists, we will have to  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Attention ALL: because of time constraints from some of our panelists, we will have to  
  
 
start promptly today. ... therefore if you have any logistics questions, please be ready to ask them  
 
start promptly today. ... therefore if you have any logistics questions, please be ready to ask them  
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as soon as you get online, and before we mute everyone!  
 
as soon as you get online, and before we mute everyone!  
  
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anonymous morphed into AndrewNicklin  
  
PeterYim: Hi Andrew!  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Hi Andrew!  
  
 
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anonymous morphed into JoelNatividad  
  
PeterYim: Hi Joel, Hi Terry ... and everyone!  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Hi Joel, Hi Terry ... and everyone!  
  
 
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JoelNatividad: Howdy everyone!  
 
JoelNatividad: Howdy everyone!  
  
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DavidMason & [[MarieJeanMeurs]]: hey all  
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[[DavidMason|David Mason]] & [[MarieJeanMeurs]]: hey all  
  
JesseWang: Hi, all! Good morning, afternoon, evening!  
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[[JesseWang|Jesse Wang]]: Hi, all! Good morning, afternoon, evening!  
  
SamiBaig: Hi all  
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[[SamiBaig|Sami Baig]]: Hi all  
  
 
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anonymous morphed into chrismusialek  
  
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JackPark: Hi  
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[[JackPark|Jack Park]]: Hi  
  
PeterYim: == JeanneHolm presenting the intro slides now ...  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]] presenting the intro slides now ...  
  
 
anonymous morphed into BobLojek  
 
anonymous morphed into BobLojek  
  
PeterYim: == ChrisMusialek presenting ...  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == ChrisMusialek presenting ...  
  
JeanneHolm: ChrisMusialek is now presenting Empowering City Developers with Federal Data. Slides can  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: ChrisMusialek is now presenting Empowering City Developers with Federal Data. Slides can  
  
 
be downloaded at the session page (above)  
 
be downloaded at the session page (above)  
  
JesseWang: what is the search engine used in data.gov? did you develop your own text/query  
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[[JesseWang|Jesse Wang]]: what is the search engine used in data.gov? did you develop your own text/query  
  
 
analyzer/parser?  
 
analyzer/parser?  
  
JeanneHolm: Jesse--we are using Bing as the search engine as part of USA.gov's search capability.  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Jesse--we are using Bing as the search engine as part of USA.gov's search capability.  
  
 
one of the things we all want to improve on Data.gov is the search capability. It's currently  
 
one of the things we all want to improve on Data.gov is the search capability. It's currently  
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accessible.  
 
accessible.  
  
JackRing: Has Data.gov calibrated the false positives and false negatives achieved with keywords?  
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[[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: Has Data.gov calibrated the false positives and false negatives achieved with keywords?  
  
JeanneHolm: Jack--I'll have to check on the false positive and false negative calibration.  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Jack--I'll have to check on the false positive and false negative calibration.  
  
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DeirdreLee: Latest W3C Editor's draft of Data Catalog Vocabulary (dcat) (managed by W3C Government  
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[[DeirdreLee|Deirdre Lee]]: Latest W3C Editor's draft of Data Catalog Vocabulary (dcat) (managed by W3C Government  
  
 
Linked Data (GLD) WG): http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html  
 
Linked Data (GLD) WG): http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html  
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your own?  
 
your own?  
  
JeanneHolm: Andrew--Data.gov is definitely looking at third-party API tools and any emergent  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Andrew--Data.gov is definitely looking at third-party API tools and any emergent  
  
 
standards in this area. The intent is that we are a connector amongst a set of data of national  
 
standards in this area. The intent is that we are a connector amongst a set of data of national  
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interest, even beyond just the federal government.  
 
interest, even beyond just the federal government.  
  
PeterYim: == AndrewNicklin presenting ...  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == AndrewNicklin presenting ...  
  
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AndrewNicklin: The site I mentioned for NYC open data standards is http://www.nyc.gov/datastandards  
 
AndrewNicklin: The site I mentioned for NYC open data standards is http://www.nyc.gov/datastandards  
  
PeterYim: == JoelNatividad presenting ...  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == JoelNatividad presenting ...  
  
JackRing: What will be the relevance of Ward Cunningham's expedition into Federating wiki's?  
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[[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: What will be the relevance of Ward Cunningham's expedition into Federating wiki's?  
  
JackRing: Jeanne, Pls do clarify the FP-FN results because both are likely to be dismal.  
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[[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: Jeanne, Pls do clarify the FP-FN results because both are likely to be dismal.  
  
JeanneHolm: Jack--completely agree. Just need to verify what's been done.  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Jack--completely agree. Just need to verify what's been done.  
  
EdDodds: I saw a story about crowdfunding movies this a.m. (passer.by) and it got me thinking: are  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: I saw a story about crowdfunding movies this a.m. (passer.by) and it got me thinking: are  
  
 
there any crowdfunded open data efforts anybody has heard of? Any fellowships sponsored by  
 
there any crowdfunded open data efforts anybody has heard of? Any fellowships sponsored by  
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foundations?  
 
foundations?  
  
JeanneHolm: Ed--like a Kickstarter for open data? Interesting...  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Ed--like a Kickstarter for open data? Interesting...  
  
 
[[DeborahMcGuinness]]: i like this idea and would be happy to point our students to such a call. I would  
 
[[DeborahMcGuinness]]: i like this idea and would be happy to point our students to such a call. I would  
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also be willing to help sell such a message  
 
also be willing to help sell such a message  
  
EdDodds: Yes, I've seen a few stories proposing crowdfunding for investigative reporting  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: Yes, I've seen a few stories proposing crowdfunding for investigative reporting  
  
 
recently--haven't seen if they were actually successful  
 
recently--haven't seen if they were actually successful  
  
JackPark: @Jeanne, re federation: I will be giving a talk at a bigdata meetup with these slides  
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[[JackPark|Jack Park]]: @Jeanne, re federation: I will be giving a talk at a bigdata meetup with these slides  
  
 
http://www.slideshare.net/jackpark/big-datasciencemeetup-final  
 
http://www.slideshare.net/jackpark/big-datasciencemeetup-final  
  
JeanneHolm: Jack--Very interesting presentation. Is the meeting open for others to attend?  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Jack--Very interesting presentation. Is the meeting open for others to attend?  
  
JackRing: Jeanne, when you are ready to escape the limits of key words and rapidly assay data with  
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[[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: Jeanne, when you are ready to escape the limits of key words and rapidly assay data with  
  
 
respect to large, complex, interconnected cominatorial networks I will be happy to offer some  
 
respect to large, complex, interconnected cominatorial networks I will be happy to offer some  
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chip equivalent to 3,600 microprocessors on a grid.  
 
chip equivalent to 3,600 microprocessors on a grid.  
  
JackPark: @Jeanne, afaik it's sold out but contact me jackpark[at]topicquests.org -  
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[[JackPark|Jack Park]]: @Jeanne, afaik it's sold out but contact me jackpark[at]topicquests.org -  
  
 
http://www.meetup.com/Big-Data-Science/events/51766642/  
 
http://www.meetup.com/Big-Data-Science/events/51766642/  
  
JeanneHolm: Thanks Jack.  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Thanks Jack.  
  
JackRing: @JackPark, I think your slides evidence great work. Thank you. Pls consider joining us at  
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[[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: @JackPark, I think your slides evidence great work. Thank you. Pls consider joining us at  
  
 
the Symposium in July at San Jose, particularly the Sunday workshop. http://isss.org/world/index.php  
 
the Symposium in July at San Jose, particularly the Sunday workshop. http://isss.org/world/index.php  
  
JackPark: @JackRing I would love to attend isss but it's just not in the budget; my friend Judith  
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[[JackPark|Jack Park]]: @JackRing I would love to attend isss but it's just not in the budget; my friend Judith  
  
 
Rosen is giving a tutorial I'd really like to attend. Your workshop, if it's open, I'll try to  
 
Rosen is giving a tutorial I'd really like to attend. Your workshop, if it's open, I'll try to  
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attend. Many thanks  
 
attend. Many thanks  
  
JeanneHolm: Are there any questions for the speakers? We are about to go to question and answer...  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Are there any questions for the speakers? We are about to go to question and answer...  
  
PeterYim: when we start, we will ask people to click on their "hand" buttons (lower right) ... and  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: when we start, we will ask people to click on their "hand" buttons (lower right) ... and  
  
 
queue folks up for Q&A and remarks ... amke sure you test your voices first, and start by telling us  
 
queue folks up for Q&A and remarks ... amke sure you test your voices first, and start by telling us  
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who you are.  
 
who you are.  
  
DeirdreLee: I have to head out now, but thanks for lots of interesting presentations  
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[[DeirdreLee|Deirdre Lee]]: I have to head out now, but thanks for lots of interesting presentations  
  
JeanneHolm: Thanks Deirdre!  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Thanks Deirdre!  
  
LeoObrst: Thanks all, must leave.  
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[[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Thanks all, must leave.  
  
PeterYim: == open Q&A and discussion now ...  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == open Q&A and discussion now ...  
  
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JeanneHolm: PeterYim: Presentations were fantastic. Congratulations to federal people who started  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Presentations were fantastic. Congratulations to federal people who started  
  
 
the movement in opening up government data; to NY developers for providing open data; and to Joel  
 
the movement in opening up government data; to NY developers for providing open data; and to Joel  
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and everyone who provided technology in helping Joel's app stand out from the crowd.  
 
and everyone who provided technology in helping Joel's app stand out from the crowd.  
  
JeanneHolm: PeterYim: Next week's discussion will focus on the technical details of implementing  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Next week's discussion will focus on the technical details of implementing  
  
 
some of these solutions.  
 
some of these solutions.  
  
JackRing: Is anyone concerned with cybersecurity/privacy?  
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[[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: Is anyone concerned with cybersecurity/privacy?  
  
AndrewNicklin: JackRing: there are two aspects to our approach to security. First is not letting out  
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AndrewNicklin: [[JackRing|Jack Ring]]: there are two aspects to our approach to security. First is not letting out  
  
 
sensitive info (comparatively easy); Second is - potentially - evaluating whether our data, when  
 
sensitive info (comparatively easy); Second is - potentially - evaluating whether our data, when  
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its benefit to the higher ups who control the purse  
 
its benefit to the higher ups who control the purse  
  
JeanneHolm: Are challenges a good way to get developers to focus on and consume government data? Are  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Are challenges a good way to get developers to focus on and consume government data? Are  
  
 
there better ways?  
 
there better ways?  
  
JeanneHolm: JoelNatividad responded: The first time we submitted to a challenge was just to do  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: JoelNatividad responded: The first time we submitted to a challenge was just to do  
  
 
something with our partners. The second time was really to accomplish something. It wasn't about the  
 
something with our partners. The second time was really to accomplish something. It wasn't about the  
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incentivize the action of making data public in the first place  
 
incentivize the action of making data public in the first place  
  
MikeBennett: I have to go now - thanks for great presentations  
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[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I have to go now - thanks for great presentations  
  
JeanneHolm: Thanks Mike!  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Thanks Mike!  
  
EdDodds: It might be that the start up weekend or hackathon model of drawing everyone together  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: It might be that the start up weekend or hackathon model of drawing everyone together  
  
 
geographically for 48 hours (though I much prefer virtual innovation clusters such as Ontolog) might  
 
geographically for 48 hours (though I much prefer virtual innovation clusters such as Ontolog) might  
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data, add their own and make a profit.  
 
data, add their own and make a profit.  
  
EdDodds: Nonprofits, community foundations, united way types also stand to benefit and could have  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: Nonprofits, community foundations, united way types also stand to benefit and could have  
  
 
skin in the game  
 
skin in the game  
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JoelNatividad: And do what Bloomberg did for Finance data, and do it for Open Data.  
 
JoelNatividad: And do what Bloomberg did for Finance data, and do it for Open Data.  
  
JeanneHolm: Ed--The hackathon model is good, but as you point out it's really important to have a  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Ed--The hackathon model is good, but as you point out it's really important to have a  
  
 
business model that brings those ideas to a sustainable service.  
 
business model that brings those ideas to a sustainable service.  
  
AndrewNicklin: @JeanneHolm, EdDodds: in terms of sustainability, we've also (informally,  
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AndrewNicklin: @JeanneHolm, [[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: in terms of sustainability, we've also (informally,  
  
 
unofficially) considered tiering access to our services such that the costs of operating open data  
 
unofficially) considered tiering access to our services such that the costs of operating open data  
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platform can be recovered from high-volume commercial users.  
 
platform can be recovered from high-volume commercial users.  
  
TerryLongstreth: @JeanneHolm - I agree that sustainability needs to be considered. Moreover, data  
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[[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]: @JeanneHolm - I agree that sustainability needs to be considered. Moreover, data  
  
 
ages quickly, and there's little in today's talks about maintaining data qualilty and timeliness  
 
ages quickly, and there's little in today's talks about maintaining data qualilty and timeliness  
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AndrewNicklin: @TerryLongstreth that's why automation is really important.  
 
AndrewNicklin: @TerryLongstreth that's why automation is really important.  
  
EdDodds: @JeanneHolm, all: strenuously agree. Caveat: just because something *should* be valuable  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: @JeanneHolm, all: strenuously agree. Caveat: just because something *should* be valuable  
  
 
doesn't mean the market has "eyes to see" at the time a product is launched  
 
doesn't mean the market has "eyes to see" at the time a product is launched  
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328 datasets 470,000+ embeds 1000 + user views 50+ apps  
 
328 datasets 470,000+ embeds 1000 + user views 50+ apps  
  
EdDodds: Toronto's @buzzdata tries to socialize static data sets (streams too maybe?) marketing,  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: Toronto's @buzzdata tries to socialize static data sets (streams too maybe?) marketing,  
  
 
news gathering, conferences, higher education all could benefit; but I think until we get a mass of  
 
news gathering, conferences, higher education all could benefit; but I think until we get a mass of  
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aggregated micropayments for data feeds the challenge to fund will continue  
 
aggregated micropayments for data feeds the challenge to fund will continue  
  
JackPark: Great conference. Many thanks to the speakers.!  
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[[JackPark|Jack Park]]: Great conference. Many thanks to the speakers.!  
  
KingsleyIdehen: Please upload the slides to slideshare etc..  
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[[KingsleyIdehen|Kingsley Idehen]]: Please upload the slides to slideshare etc..  
  
JeanneHolm: @Kingsley the slides are at  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: @Kingsley the slides are at  
  
 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_05_10 for today's call.  
 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_05_10 for today's call.  
  
KingsleyIdehen: @JeanneHolm: I've seen the presentations, but just suggesting slideshare for broader  
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[[KingsleyIdehen|Kingsley Idehen]]: @JeanneHolm: I've seen the presentations, but just suggesting slideshare for broader  
  
 
audience etc..  
 
audience etc..  
  
EdDodds: + 1 Kingsley  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: + 1 Kingsley  
  
 
JoelNatividad: We will upload the nycfacets overview to slideshare as well  
 
JoelNatividad: We will upload the nycfacets overview to slideshare as well  
  
EdDodds: There may be a few up at http://www.slideshare.net/eddodds/ already  
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[[EdDodds|Ed Dodds]]: There may be a few up at http://www.slideshare.net/eddodds/ already  
  
JackPark: A thought: having slides up at slideshare means they can be viewed without downloading.  
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[[JackPark|Jack Park]]: A thought: having slides up at slideshare means they can be viewed without downloading.  
  
 
sdupd_glenn: slideshare, yes please  
 
sdupd_glenn: slideshare, yes please  
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opendata program started in the first place (all of us local municipalities and districts)!  
 
opendata program started in the first place (all of us local municipalities and districts)!  
  
PeterYim: thank you all, great session!  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: thank you all, great session!  
  
 
JoelNatividad: Thanks everyone! Special mention to Peter for all the great work to make this  
 
JoelNatividad: Thanks everyone! Special mention to Peter for all the great work to make this  
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possible!  
 
possible!  
  
SamiBaig: Thank you all!  
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[[SamiBaig|Sami Baig]]: Thank you all!  
  
 
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have no funding or champions to help us get off the ground. We can't participate without your help!  
 
have no funding or champions to help us get off the ground. We can't participate without your help!  
  
JeanneHolm: @sdupd_glenn I'm happy to help out with providing discussions on the value of open data  
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[[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: @sdupd_glenn I'm happy to help out with providing discussions on the value of open data  
  
 
to cities and municipalities. Part of Cities.Data.gov (coming soon!) will be to do that as well.  
 
to cities and municipalities. Part of Cities.Data.gov (coming soon!) will be to do that as well.  
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Feel free to reach out to me at jholm@jpl.nasa.gov  
 
Feel free to reach out to me at jholm@jpl.nasa.gov  
  
sdupd_glenn: JeanneHolm: Great I'd love to discuss with your team. We've been in touch with you  
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sdupd_glenn: [[JeanneHolm|Jeanne Holm]]: Great I'd love to discuss with your team. We've been in touch with you  
  
 
already via Barbara Moreno  
 
already via Barbara Moreno  
  
PeterYim: come back, same time next week, when we will cover the technical aspects of the same  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: come back, same time next week, when we will cover the technical aspects of the same  
  
 
subject next Thursdau (May-17)  
 
subject next Thursdau (May-17)  
  
PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:18am PDT --  
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[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 11:18am PDT --  
  
 
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* SMWcon-Spring2012 - http://smwcon.projecthalo.com/index.php/SMWCon_Spring_2012  
 
* SMWcon-Spring2012 - http://smwcon.projecthalo.com/index.php/SMWCon_Spring_2012  
 
* [[OpenOntologyRepository]] (OOR) - http://oor.net  
 
* [[OpenOntologyRepository]] (OOR) - http://oor.net  
* OntologySummit2012: "Ontology for Big Systems"  
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* [[OntologySummit2012|Ontology Summit 2012]]: "Ontology for Big Systems"  
** read the [[OntologySummit2012_Communique]] - the collaboratively authored work product by the OntologySummit community that took 3 months in rigorous discourse to develop  
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** read the [[OntologySummit2012_Communique]] - the collaboratively authored work product by the [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]] community that took 3 months in rigorous discourse to develop  
 
** ''Quick!'' - the solicitation for endorsement of this communique is still open (it closes by end-of-day 12-May-2012). Therefore, if you can read through it, and sends in your endorsement quickly, you will be permanently added to the roster of endorsers for this historical document! ( ... instructions for endorsement are available near the top of the communique page.)  
 
** ''Quick!'' - the solicitation for endorsement of this communique is still open (it closes by end-of-day 12-May-2012). Therefore, if you can read through it, and sends in your endorsement quickly, you will be permanently added to the roster of endorsers for this historical document! ( ... instructions for endorsement are available near the top of the communique page.)  
  

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[edit] Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012_05_10     (1)

Session Topic: "Fostering 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - invited presentation on NYCFacets and introduction to New York City's 'Open' initiatives"     (1A)

Session Co-chair: JeanneHolm (Data.gov / NASA-JPL) & PeterYim (Ontolog / CIM3) - slides     (1B)

Panel Briefings from:     (1C)

  • ChrisMusialek (Data.gov / GSA) - "Empowering City Developers with Federal Data" - slides     (1D)
  • AndrewNicklin (New York City) - "Opening up municipal government data: past, present, and future" - slides     (1E)
  • JoelNatividad (Ontodia) - "Smart Cities and Big Open Data" - slides     (1F)

  • Dial-in:     (1G7D)
    • Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... (long distance cost may apply)     (1G7D1)
    • when prompted enter PIN: 141184#     (1G7D2)
    • Skype: joinconference (use the PIN above) ... generally free-of-charge, when connecting from your computer)     (1G7D3)
      • for skype users who have trouble with finding the Skype Dial pad ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"     (1G7D3A)
  • Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/     (1G7E)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"     (1G7E1)
    • if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.     (1G7E2)
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    • You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.     (1G7F2)
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  • Discussions and Q & A:     (1G7G)
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  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.     (1G7K)

[edit] Attendees     (1H)

[edit] Abstract     (1I)

Fostering 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - invited presentation on NYCFacets and introduction to New York City's 'Open' initiatives     (1I1)

This is the first of two sessions jointly organized by the US federal data.gov initiative and Ontolog. This follows quite naturally from a few very exciting recent events, notably:     (1I2)

  • (a) the recent US federal government's thrust toward developing and leveraging 'Big Data'     (1I3)
  • (b) the 3-month long Ontology Summit 2012 series of events that just finished a few weeks ago that was focused around the theme 'Ontology for Big Systems' and     (1I4)
  • (c) New York City's award of their 'Big Apps 3.0' grand prize to NYCfacets (developed by a member of this community, in an applications that leverages ontology and semantic technologies); and the City's 'open data' initiative that followed.     (1I5)

During today's session, we will look at the NYCfacets app, the New York City open data initiative and contemplate how open collaborative community effort can help foster 'Big Open Data'.     (1I6)

Fostering 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration     (1J1)

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call     (1J2)
  • 1. Opening (chair) - Jeanne Holm [10 min.] ... [ slides ]     (1J3)
  • 2. Panel briefings [20 min. each]     (1J4)
    • ChrisMusialek - "Empowering City Developers with Federal Data"     (1J4A)
    • AndrewNicklin - "Opening up municipal government data: past, present, and future"     (1J4B)
    • JoelNatividad - "Smart Cities and Big Open Data"     (1J4C)
  • 3. Q & A and open discussion [All: ~30 min.] - (moderated by the chair) -- please refer to process above     (1J5)
  • 4. Wrap-up / Announcements - (chair)     (1J6)

[edit] Proceedings     (1K)

Please refer to the above     (1K1)

[edit] IM Chat Transcript captured during the session    (1K2)

see raw transcript here.     (1K2A)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1K2B)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1K2C)

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --     (1K2D)

Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012-05-10     (1K2F)

Session Topic: "Fostering 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration     (1K2G)

- invited presentation on NYCFacets and introduction to New York City's 'Open' initiatives"     (1K2H)

Session Co-chair: Jeanne Holm (Data.gov / NASA-JPL) & Peter P. Yim (Ontolog / CIM3)     (1K2I)

Panel Briefings:     (1K2J)

  • ChrisMusialek (Data.gov / GSA) - "Empowering City Developers with Federal Data"     (1K2K)
  • AndrewNicklin (New York City) - "Opening up municipal government data: past, present, and future"     (1K2L)
  • JoelNatividad (Ontodia) - "Smart Cities and Big Open Data"     (1K2M)

Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute     (1K2O)

Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"     (1K2P)

Proceedings:     (1K2Q)

Peter P. Yim: Attention ALL: because of time constraints from some of our panelists, we will have to     (1K2R)

start promptly today. ... therefore if you have any logistics questions, please be ready to ask them     (1K2S)

as soon as you get online, and before we mute everyone!     (1K2T)

anonymous morphed into Ed Dodds     (1K2U)

anonymous morphed into AndrewNicklin     (1K2V)

anonymous morphed into JoelNatividad     (1K2X)

Peter P. Yim: Hi Joel, Hi Terry ... and everyone!     (1K2Y)

anonymous morphed into jgabriel     (1K2Z)

jgabriel: Hi everyone!     (1K2AA)

JoelNatividad: Howdy everyone!     (1K2AB)

anonymous morphed into Deirdre Lee     (1K2AC)

anonymous1 morphed into Hasan Sayani     (1K2AD)

anonymous morphed into Jeanne Holm     (1K2AE)

anonymous morphed into David Mason & MarieJeanMeurs     (1K2AF)

anonymous1 morphed into Sami Baig     (1K2AG)

Jesse Wang: Hi, all! Good morning, afternoon, evening!     (1K2AI)

anonymous morphed into chrismusialek     (1K2AK)

anonymous morphed into Tom Tinsley     (1K2AL)

anonymous1 morphed into Ed Dodds     (1K2AM)

anonymous1 morphed into sdupd_glenn     (1K2AN)

Peter P. Yim: == Jeanne Holm presenting the intro slides now ...     (1K2AP)

anonymous morphed into BobLojek     (1K2AQ)

Peter P. Yim: == ChrisMusialek presenting ...     (1K2AR)

Jeanne Holm: ChrisMusialek is now presenting Empowering City Developers with Federal Data. Slides can     (1K2AS)

be downloaded at the session page (above)     (1K2AT)

Jesse Wang: what is the search engine used in data.gov? did you develop your own text/query     (1K2AU)

analyzer/parser?     (1K2AV)

Jeanne Holm: Jesse--we are using Bing as the search engine as part of USA.gov's search capability.     (1K2AW)

one of the things we all want to improve on Data.gov is the search capability. It's currently     (1K2AX)

limited by both the complexity of the queries you can build, as well as the fact that it only     (1K2AY)

searches the metadata of the data tool or dataset. We are moving toward a federated model that would     (1K2AZ)

allow us to search the metadata or other attributes of the tools and data sources that are made     (1K2AAA)

accessible.     (1K2AAB)

Jack Ring: Has Data.gov calibrated the false positives and false negatives achieved with keywords?     (1K2AAC)

Jeanne Holm: Jack--I'll have to check on the false positive and false negative calibration.     (1K2AAD)

anonymous morphed into Denise Warzel     (1K2AAE)

Deirdre Lee: Latest W3C Editor's draft of Data Catalog Vocabulary (dcat) (managed by W3C Government     (1K2AAF)

anonymous1 morphed into MarkDixon     (1K2AAH)

AndrewNicklin: Will data.gov look at third-party API key & rate management tools instead of rolling     (1K2AAI)

Jeanne Holm: Andrew--Data.gov is definitely looking at third-party API tools and any emergent     (1K2AAK)

standards in this area. The intent is that we are a connector amongst a set of data of national     (1K2AAL)

interest, even beyond just the federal government.     (1K2AAM)

Peter P. Yim: == AndrewNicklin presenting ...     (1K2AAN)

anonymous1 morphed into Elizabeth Florescu     (1K2AAO)

AndrewNicklin: The site I mentioned for NYC open data standards is http://www.nyc.gov/datastandards     (1K2AAP)

Peter P. Yim: == JoelNatividad presenting ...     (1K2AAQ)

Jack Ring: What will be the relevance of Ward Cunningham's expedition into Federating wiki's?     (1K2AAR)

Jack Ring: Jeanne, Pls do clarify the FP-FN results because both are likely to be dismal.     (1K2AAS)

Jeanne Holm: Jack--completely agree. Just need to verify what's been done.     (1K2AAT)

Ed Dodds: I saw a story about crowdfunding movies this a.m. (passer.by) and it got me thinking: are     (1K2AAU)

there any crowdfunded open data efforts anybody has heard of? Any fellowships sponsored by     (1K2AAV)

foundations?     (1K2AAW)

Jeanne Holm: Ed--like a Kickstarter for open data? Interesting...     (1K2AAX)

DeborahMcGuinness: i like this idea and would be happy to point our students to such a call. I would     (1K2AAY)

also be willing to help sell such a message     (1K2AAZ)

Ed Dodds: Yes, I've seen a few stories proposing crowdfunding for investigative reporting     (1K2AAAA)

recently--haven't seen if they were actually successful     (1K2AAAB)

Jack Park: @Jeanne, re federation: I will be giving a talk at a bigdata meetup with these slides     (1K2AAAC)

Jeanne Holm: Jack--Very interesting presentation. Is the meeting open for others to attend?     (1K2AAAE)

Jack Ring: Jeanne, when you are ready to escape the limits of key words and rapidly assay data with     (1K2AAAF)

respect to large, complex, interconnected cominatorial networks I will be happy to offer some     (1K2AAAG)

insights. Long buried in highly classified systems but now patented in soon to be implemented in a     (1K2AAAH)

chip equivalent to 3,600 microprocessors on a grid.     (1K2AAAI)

Jack Park: @Jeanne, afaik it's sold out but contact me jackpark[at]topicquests.org -     (1K2AAAJ)

Jack Ring: @JackPark, I think your slides evidence great work. Thank you. Pls consider joining us at     (1K2AAAM)

the Symposium in July at San Jose, particularly the Sunday workshop. http://isss.org/world/index.php     (1K2AAAN)

Jack Park: @JackRing I would love to attend isss but it's just not in the budget; my friend Judith     (1K2AAAO)

Rosen is giving a tutorial I'd really like to attend. Your workshop, if it's open, I'll try to     (1K2AAAP)

attend. Many thanks     (1K2AAAQ)

Jeanne Holm: Are there any questions for the speakers? We are about to go to question and answer...     (1K2AAAR)

Peter P. Yim: when we start, we will ask people to click on their "hand" buttons (lower right) ... and     (1K2AAAS)

queue folks up for Q&A and remarks ... amke sure you test your voices first, and start by telling us     (1K2AAAT)

who you are.     (1K2AAAU)

Deirdre Lee: I have to head out now, but thanks for lots of interesting presentations     (1K2AAAV)

Leo Obrst: Thanks all, must leave.     (1K2AAAX)

Peter P. Yim: == open Q&A and discussion now ...     (1K2AAAY)

anonymous morphed into Pavithra Kenjige     (1K2AAAZ)

Jeanne Holm: Peter P. Yim: Presentations were fantastic. Congratulations to federal people who started     (1K2AAAAA)

the movement in opening up government data; to NY developers for providing open data; and to Joel     (1K2AAAAB)

and everyone who provided technology in helping Joel's app stand out from the crowd.     (1K2AAAAC)

Jeanne Holm: Peter P. Yim: Next week's discussion will focus on the technical details of implementing     (1K2AAAAD)

some of these solutions.     (1K2AAAAE)

Jack Ring: Is anyone concerned with cybersecurity/privacy?     (1K2AAAAF)

AndrewNicklin: Jack Ring: there are two aspects to our approach to security. First is not letting out     (1K2AAAAG)

sensitive info (comparatively easy); Second is - potentially - evaluating whether our data, when     (1K2AAAAH)

combined with outside information poses more risks.     (1K2AAAAI)

sdupd_glenn: We'd love to see some case studies of municipal opendata in order to pitch to     (1K2AAAAJ)

management the benefits of a public-facing GIS system coupled with ERP data (merged visually with     (1K2AAAAK)

other public data)     (1K2AAAAL)

sdupd_glenn: a lot of our staff understands the potential of all this, but are unable to articulate     (1K2AAAAM)

its benefit to the higher ups who control the purse     (1K2AAAAN)

Jeanne Holm: Are challenges a good way to get developers to focus on and consume government data? Are     (1K2AAAAO)

there better ways?     (1K2AAAAP)

Jeanne Holm: JoelNatividad responded: The first time we submitted to a challenge was just to do     (1K2AAAAQ)

something with our partners. The second time was really to accomplish something. It wasn't about the     (1K2AAAAR)

money, but the recognition and ability to build something useful was what drew us.     (1K2AAAAS)

sdupd_glenn: sdupd_glenn: For the private sector, yes. For public agencies, the challenge is how to     (1K2AAAAT)

incentivize the action of making data public in the first place     (1K2AAAAU)

Mike Bennett: I have to go now - thanks for great presentations     (1K2AAAAV)

Ed Dodds: It might be that the start up weekend or hackathon model of drawing everyone together     (1K2AAAAX)

geographically for 48 hours (though I much prefer virtual innovation clusters such as Ontolog) might     (1K2AAAAY)

be a tactic, especially if you could find sponsorships from firms who are likely to consume the     (1K2AAAAZ)

data, add their own and make a profit.     (1K2AAAAAA)

Ed Dodds: Nonprofits, community foundations, united way types also stand to benefit and could have     (1K2AAAAAB)

skin in the game     (1K2AAAAAC)

JoelNatividad: And to Ed's point, that is what we want to do at Ontodia. We want to collaborate Open     (1K2AAAAAD)

Data with all kinds of databases, both public and private.     (1K2AAAAAE)

JoelNatividad: And do what Bloomberg did for Finance data, and do it for Open Data.     (1K2AAAAAF)

Jeanne Holm: Ed--The hackathon model is good, but as you point out it's really important to have a     (1K2AAAAAG)

business model that brings those ideas to a sustainable service.     (1K2AAAAAH)

AndrewNicklin: @JeanneHolm, Ed Dodds: in terms of sustainability, we've also (informally,     (1K2AAAAAI)

unofficially) considered tiering access to our services such that the costs of operating open data     (1K2AAAAAJ)

platform can be recovered from high-volume commercial users.     (1K2AAAAAK)

Terry Longstreth: @JeanneHolm - I agree that sustainability needs to be considered. Moreover, data     (1K2AAAAAL)

ages quickly, and there's little in today's talks about maintaining data qualilty and timeliness     (1K2AAAAAM)

JoelNatividad: @TerryLongstreth, in NYCFacets, that's why we derived "extrametadata" to characterize     (1K2AAAAAN)

and score each dataset     (1K2AAAAAO)

AndrewNicklin: @TerryLongstreth that's why automation is really important.     (1K2AAAAAP)

Ed Dodds: @JeanneHolm, all: strenuously agree. Caveat: just because something *should* be valuable     (1K2AAAAAQ)

doesn't mean the market has "eyes to see" at the time a product is launched     (1K2AAAAAR)

JoelNatividad: [in our "extrametadata"] we score it along freshness, sparseness, uniqueness, no of     (1K2AAAAAS)

downloads, views, etc., and we plan to make the scoring algorithm transparent and not opaque, so     (1K2AAAAAT)

publishers can respond; and in the future, we do plan to do time series as well, but not yet.     (1K2AAAAAU)

JoelNatividad: @TerryLongstreth, we're actively tracking the wikidata effort and will sync up with     (1K2AAAAAV)

JoelNatividad: so "facts" and unstructured free form text are separated     (1K2AAAAAX)

anonymous1: In regards to competitions concerning opengov-- Chicago recently held a contest to     (1K2AAAAAY)

encourage app development and recieved a toyal of 60 submissions. Chicago's he open data portal     (1K2AAAAAZ)

stats include:     (1K2AAAAAAA)

328 datasets 470,000+ embeds 1000 + user views 50+ apps     (1K2AAAAAAB)

Ed Dodds: Toronto's @buzzdata tries to socialize static data sets (streams too maybe?) marketing,     (1K2AAAAAAC)

news gathering, conferences, higher education all could benefit; but I think until we get a mass of     (1K2AAAAAAD)

aggregated micropayments for data feeds the challenge to fund will continue     (1K2AAAAAAE)

Jack Park: Great conference. Many thanks to the speakers.!     (1K2AAAAAAF)

Kingsley Idehen: Please upload the slides to slideshare etc..     (1K2AAAAAAG)

Jeanne Holm: @Kingsley the slides are at     (1K2AAAAAAH)

Kingsley Idehen: @JeanneHolm: I've seen the presentations, but just suggesting slideshare for broader     (1K2AAAAAAJ)

audience etc..     (1K2AAAAAAK)

JoelNatividad: We will upload the nycfacets overview to slideshare as well     (1K2AAAAAAM)

Jack Park: A thought: having slides up at slideshare means they can be viewed without downloading.     (1K2AAAAAAO)

sdupd_glenn: slideshare, yes please     (1K2AAAAAAP)

sdupd_glenn: Can I please suggest that someone or agency put together a series of webinars for     (1K2AAAAAAQ)

agencies that know opendata is crucial but cannot get C-suite or management approval to get an     (1K2AAAAAAR)

opendata program started in the first place (all of us local municipalities and districts)!     (1K2AAAAAAS)

Peter P. Yim: thank you all, great session!     (1K2AAAAAAT)

JoelNatividad: Thanks everyone! Special mention to Peter for all the great work to make this     (1K2AAAAAAU)

anonymous morphed into lisa h     (1K2AAAAAAX)

sdupd_glenn: we local municipalities feel like we get to applaud the state and federal efforts but     (1K2AAAAAAY)

have no funding or champions to help us get off the ground. We can't participate without your help!     (1K2AAAAAAZ)

Jeanne Holm: @sdupd_glenn I'm happy to help out with providing discussions on the value of open data     (1K2AAAAAAAA)

to cities and municipalities. Part of Cities.Data.gov (coming soon!) will be to do that as well.     (1K2AAAAAAAB)

Feel free to reach out to me at jholm@jpl.nasa.gov     (1K2AAAAAAAC)

sdupd_glenn: Jeanne Holm: Great I'd love to discuss with your team. We've been in touch with you     (1K2AAAAAAAD)

already via Barbara Moreno     (1K2AAAAAAAE)

Peter P. Yim: come back, same time next week, when we will cover the technical aspects of the same     (1K2AAAAAAAF)

subject next Thursdau (May-17)     (1K2AAAAAAAG)

Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 11:18am PDT --     (1K2AAAAAAAH)

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --     (1K2AAAAAAAI)

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