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= Virtual Workshop on Semantics in Geospatial and Other Architectures: Design and Implementation - Tue 2013-05-07  =

''This is a virtual workshop organized under an [http://interop.socop.org NSF INTEROP Grant] by the Spatial Ontology Community of Practice (SOCoP)'' 

Session Topic: '''Semantics in Geospatial and Other Architectures: Design and Implementation''' 

Abstract: This is a virtual workshop focused on the design, use, and software development of semantic technology in geospatial and other architectures. Semantic technology can encompass ontologies, repositories, mappings, reasoners, and other components as well as linked data. A purpose of the workshop is to identify current systems using semantic technologies, learn why semantics were needed, describe and analyze how those systems are built (i.e., what technologies are being used both conceptually and in software development), identify commonalities in concept and software to possibly develop re-usable software templates, and identify unmet needs for future architectures, both for functionality and then software. The use of semantics can be for searching, data integration, question answering, or other needs, considering both research and implementation. One of the purposes is to gain examples of how to include semantic technology in, for example, geospatial portals, statewide information systems, spatial data infrastructures (e.g., NSDIs) database systems, and so on. Because the use of semantics in the geospatial area is still relatively new, other domains and applications are of interest. 

'''Panelists / Briefings:''' (approximate times) 

'''Session Chair:''' '''Dr. NancyWiegand''' (U of Wisconsin, Madison) - '''12:30 Eastern time''' [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/wiegand-2.pdf slides] 

* '''12:40 DouglasFils''' (Ocean Leadership) - "'''Data Discovery and Integration
An exploration of concepts for IODP'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/Fils-3-ExplorationOfConcepts.pdf slides] 
* ''' 1:00 DamianGessler''' (iPlant Collaborative) - "'''Semantics for Cyberinfrastructure: The iPlant Collaborative's Semantic Web Platform'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/Gessler%20-%20iPlant%20SSWAP%20Virtual%20Workshop.pdf slides] 
* ''' 1:20 DaveKolas''' (Raytheon BBN Technologies) - "'''Getting Started with <nowiki>[[GeoSPARQL]]</nowiki>'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/dave-GeoSPARQL_Getting_Started%20-%20Workshop%20Version.pdf slides] 
* ''' 1:40 VeronikaMegler''' (Portland State University) - "'''The Problem of Semantics in the Metadata Mess'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/Megler%20semantic%20workshop.pdf slides] 
* ''' 2:00 [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]] and PhilipMurphy''' (Redlands Institute & SDS Consortium) - "'''An Ontology-Driven Web Portal for Spatial Decision Support'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/OntologyDrivenSDSKnowledgePortal.4.pdf slides] 
* ''' 2:20 break''' 
* ''' 2:30 WenwenLi''' (Arizona State University) - "'''Knowledge Mining for Intelligent Geospatial Data Discovery'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/Li_VirtualWorkshop_Semantic_05072013-2.pdf slides] 
* ''' 2:50 ToddPehle''' (Orbis Technologies) - "'''Data and Service Discovery in Linked SDI and Linked VGI'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/Data%20and%20Service%20Discovery%20in%20Linked%20SDI%20and%20VGI.pdf slides] 
* ''' 3:10 ChaoweiYang''' (George Mason University) - "'''Using Semantic Web to Optimize the Discovery, Access, and Utilization of Big Geospatial Data'''"  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/SOCoP/Workshops/Architecture-virtual-workshop-may-2013/chaowei.yang-virtual-semantic-5-7-13.ppt slides] 
* ''' 3:30  further comments or questions''' 

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** Thank you to '''[[GaryBergCross]]''' for helping with this workshop and to '''PeterYim''' for hosting. 

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== Abstract  ==

'''Virtual Workshop on Semantics in Geospatial and Other Architectures: Design and Implementation''' - [ intro slides] 

This is a virtual workshop focused on the design, use, and software development of semantic technology in various geospatial architectures. One of the purposes is to gain examples of how to include semantic technology in, for example, geospatial portals, statewide information systems, spatial data infrastructures (e.g., NSDIs) database systems, etc. Because the use of semantics in the geospatial area is still relatively new, other domains and applications are also of interest. Semantic technology can encompass ontologies, repositories, mappings, reasoners, and other components as well as linked data. 

In particular, the purpose of the workshop is to identify current systems using semantic technologies, learn why semantics were needed, describe and analyze how those systems are built (i.e., what technologies are being used both conceptually and in software development), identify commonalities in concept and software to possibly develop re-usable software templates, and identify unmet needs for future architectures, both for functionality and then software. The use of semantics can be for searching, data integration, question answering, or other needs, considering both research and implementation. 

This virtual workshop may lead to a 2 day in-person workshop in the fall, with possible publication opportunities. 

== Proceedings  ==

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===IM Chat Transcript captured during the session=== 

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Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit. 

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[9:09] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: This is the chat-workspace for the ... 

''' virtual workshop on semantics in geospatial and other architectures: design and implementation ''' 

Date / Time: Tue 2013-05-07 ; 3-Hr session, starting 12:30pm EDT / 9:30am PDT / 16:30 UTC 

Session Chair: Dr. [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]] (U of Wisconsin, Madison) 

Agenda: [pm EDT] 

* 12:30 [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]] (U of Wisconsin, Madison) - Chair: Opening 

* 12:40 [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]] (Ocean Leadership) - "Data Discovery and Integration An exploration of concepts for IODP" 

* 1:00 [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]] (iPlant Collaborative)

- "Semantics for Cyberinfrastructure: The iPlant Collaboratives Semantic Web Platform" 

* 1:20 [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]] (Raytheon BBN Technologies) - "Getting Started with [[GeoSPARQL]]" 

* 1:40 [[VeronikaMegler|Veronika Megler]] (Portland State University) - "The Problem of Semantics in the Metadata Mess" 

* 2:00 [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]] and PhilipMurphy (Redlands Institute & SDS Consortium) 

- "An Ontology-Driven Web Portal for Spatial Decision Support" 

* 2:20 break 

* 2:30 [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]] (Arizona State University) - "Knowledge Mining for Intelligent Geospatial Data Discovery" 

* 2:50 [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]] (Orbis Technologies) - "Data and Service Discovery in Linked SDI and Linked VGI" 

* 3:10 [[ChaoweiYang|Chaowei Yang]] (George Mason University)

- "Using Semantic Web to Optimize the Discovery, Access, and Utilization of Big Geospatial Data" 

* 3:30 further comments or questions 

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Attendees: [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]] (chair), AlberSanchez, [[AlexMirzaoff|Alex Mirzaoff]], [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]], [[AnneThessen|Anne Thessen]], [[DaliaVaranka|Dalia Varanka]], 

[[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]], [[DanCerys|Dan Cerys]], [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]], [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]], [[FranLightsom|Fran Lightsom]], [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]], [[GaryBergCross]], 

[[JimJacobs|Jim Jacobs]], [[JimKirby|Jim Kirby]], [[JoelBender|Joel Bender]], [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]], [[MarshallXMa]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]], [[NaijunZhou|Naijun Zhou]], 

[[NicholasDelRio]], [[OlaAhlqvist|Ola Ahlqvist]], PatrickWest, [[PaulKoch|Paul Koch]], [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]], PhilipMurphy, [[RalphGrove|Ralph Grove]], 

[[RobertRovetto|Robert Rovetto]], [[TalesPaivaNogueira]], [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]], [[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]], [[VeronikaMegler|Veronika Megler]], [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]], ... 

WilliamMiller, DouglasNebert, [[SergeyKrikov|Sergey Krikov]], [[SongGao|Song Gao]], AhmadAssaf, BernardValentin, [[DavidGovoni|David Govoni]], ... 

''' proceedings: ''' 

[8:55] anonymous morphed into [[NaijunZhou|Naijun Zhou]] 

[9:15] anonymous morphed into [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]] 

[9:23] anonymous morphed into [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]] 

[9:26] anonymous morphed into [[VeronikaMegler|Veronika Megler]] 

[9:26] anonymous morphed into [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]] 

[9:28] anonymous morphed into [[AnneThessen|Anne Thessen]] 

[9:28] anonymous2 morphed into PhilipMurphy 

[9:28] anonymous morphed into [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]] 

[9:29] anonymous morphed into [[JimJacobs|Jim Jacobs]] 

[9:29] anonymous2 morphed into [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]] 

[9:30] anonymous morphed into [[RalphGrove|Ralph Grove]] 

[9:30] anonymous2 morphed into [[OlaAhlqvist|Ola Ahlqvist]] 

[9:33] anonymous2 morphed into [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]] 

[9:35] anonymous2 morphed into PatrickWest 

[9:35] anonymous2 morphed into [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]] 

[9:36] anonymous2 morphed into [[MarshallXMa]] 

[9:37] anonymous4 morphed into [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]] 

[9:29] [[GaryBergCross]]: Hello all. 

[9:36] [[AnneThessen|Anne Thessen]]: Hello everyone! 

[9:37] [[GaryBergCross]]: I guess all but Chaowei and Todd are on the call so far...unless they are anon 

[9:37] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]] opens the session ... 

[9:38] anonymous7 morphed into [[NicholasDelRio]] 

[9:38] anonymous5 morphed into [[RobertRovetto|Robert Rovetto]] 

[9:39] anonymous1 morphed into [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]] 

[9:39] [[GaryBergCross]]: The slide has Veronika as last speaker but she will be speaking at 1:40. There 

are new slides on the site. 

[9:41] anonymous1 morphed into AlberSanchez 

[9:42] anonymous1 morphed into anonymous123 

[9:46] anonymous1 morphed into [[TalesPaivaNogueira]] 

[9:42] [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]]: skype isn't actually connecting me to the conference... 

[9:44] [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]]: yeah, the joinconference on skype is a fail for me, will see if I can make 

something else work. Sorry! 

[9:46] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @John - try using your phone or skype-out and call (206) 402-0100 ... PIN=141184# 

[9:51] [[GaryBergCross]]: @johnG did you toggle in the PIN on Skype??? 

[9:42] List of members: AlberSanchez, [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]], Anne Thessen, anonymous, anonymous123, 

[[DaliaVaranka|Dalia Varanka]], [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]], Dave Kolas, Douglas Fils, Fran Lightsom, Gary Berg-Cross, Jim Jacobs, 

Jim Kirby, [[JoelBender|Joel Bender]], [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]], Marshall X Ma, [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], Naicong Li, Naijun Zhou, [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]], 

Nick Del Rio, [[OlaAhlqvist|Ola Ahlqvist]], Patrick West, [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]], Philip Murphy, Ralph Grove, RobRovetto, 

[[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]], Veronika Megler, vnc2, Wenwen Li 

[9:50] [[GaryBergCross]]: 30 people on the Chat... 

[9:58] [[GaryBergCross]]: Schedule 1:00 Damian Gessler, iPlant Collaborative 1:20 [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]], Raytheon 

BBN Technologies 1:40 [[VeronikaMegler|Veronika Megler]], Portland State University 2:00 [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]], Redlands Institute 

2:20 BREAK 2:30 [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]], Arizona State University 2:50 [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]], Orbis Technologies 3:10 Chaowei 

(Phil) Yang, George Mason University 3:30 Any further questions 

[9:42] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]] presenting now ... 

[10:00] [[GaryBergCross]]: Good architecture representation in slide 11 

[10:07] [[MarshallXMa]]: @DouglasFils: Can you list a few example vocabularies used in your works. You 

mentioned vocabularies are important on slides 4 and 10 of your presentation. thx. 

[10:20] [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]]: @[[MarshallXMa]]: I am working to get our current vocabularies update into the web 

service.. some of the older versions are at http://data.oceandrilling.org/core/ We will try and use 

the w3c patterns for sharing the current vocabularies soon.. 

[10:21] [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]]: these are just simple SKOS files.. we would really like to leverage off NERC 

http://www.bodc.ac.uk/products/web_services/vocab/ 

[10:43] [[MarshallXMa]]: @DouglasFils: Thanks. 

[10:02] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]] presenting ... 

[10:13] anonymous1 morphed into [[DanCerys|Dan Cerys]] 

[10:21] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @DamianGessler - does enabling a site to serve the data need to be done on the 

server side by the website provider, or will an enabled client be able to do it on any website? 

[10:22] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: if the former, do you have a list of your "partners"? 

[10:25] [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]]: @PeterYim - data providers host a SSWAP OWL RDF/XML graph for each service 

they offer. This "graph" describes their service semantically, allowing for discovery and 

(automated) engagement. 

[10:29] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @DamianGessler - since your technology is quite domain independent, do you have 

plans to apply that to other domains beyond "plants" (if so, what domains are being worked on or 

considered? 

[10:32] [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]]: @PeterYim - geo would be natural (esp. because the of the scientific overlap 

between bio/geo/plant research). But no firm plans yet; open to follow-up. You are correct that the 

core technology is domain independent. 

[10:33] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Thank you, Damian 

[10:22] anonymous2 morphed into [[PaulKoch|Paul Koch]] 

[10:23] anonymous1 morphed into [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]] 

[10:23] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]] presenting ... 

[10:38] [[FranLightsom|Fran Lightsom]]: Can anybody else hear? 

[10:39] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Fran - yes, I can still hear [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]] speaking 

[10:41] anonymous1 morphed into [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]] 

[10:42] [[FranLightsom|Fran Lightsom]]: Thanks. I needed to redial. 

[10:45] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: Sorry, apparently my sickness resulted in me talking more slowly than usual. 

Please let me know if you have any questions about [[GeoSPARQL]]. 

[10:47] [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]]: @Dave: It was a very nicely put together summary of the technology, very neat 

to follow. What are the implications on the inference engine of having to satisfy geospatial 

relation queries? (How many support it, are they very much optimized (yet)?) 

[10:50] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: The implementations that exist so far use geospatial indices to improve the 

processing of the queries, much like rdbms with geospatial extensions 

[10:50] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: So query planning gets a little bit more complicated 

[10:51] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: There are currently 3 implementations of which I am aware (Oracle, Parliament, 

and Strabon) 

[10:52] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: Our hope is that other triple store vendors who currently have some proprietary 

spatial extensions (ex, Virtuoso) will eventually support [[GeoSPARQL]] 

[10:45] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[VeronikaMegler|Veronika Megler]] presenting ... 

[10:53] anonymous1 morphed into [[AlexMirzaoff|Alex Mirzaoff]] 

[11:07] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]] presenting ... 

[11:13] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: relay an anonymous post - URL to SDS Portal http://www.spatial.redlands.edu/sds/ 

[11:17] [[GaryBergCross]]: Break coming up after Naicong 

[11:17] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @NaicongLi & PhilipMurphy - for the "collected" tools and models, are you working 

with those from your collaborators/partners or are they "discovered" from publications and the web? 

[12:37] [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]]: Peter -- I just saw your question earlier - "for the "collected" tools and 

models, are you working with your collaborators/partners or are they "discovered" from publications 

and the web?" The answer is "both". 

[11:21] [[GaryBergCross]]: Naicong's updated slides are on the Wiki (with "export" properly labeled now on slide#15). 

[11:24] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @PhilipMurphy - possible typo on your email address on slide#28 

[11:35] PhilipMurphy: Peter well spotted! -- should be philip_murphy@spatial.redlands.edu 

[11:36] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Philip ... you might want to send an update of the slides to Gary so he can swap 

it in for the archives 

[12:04] [[GaryBergCross]]: Updated slides for [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]] linked to the wiki session page now. 

[11:31] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [2:31pm EDT] [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]: we are having break now; resuming in 1 min. ... 

[11:35] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]] presenting ... 

[11:41] [[GaryBergCross]]: @WenwenLi - the attribute level looks like a values level. 

[11:52] anonymous2 morphed into Alex 

[11:54] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]] presenting ... 

[12:10] [[GaryBergCross]]: @Todd - Is subset the right way to partition some space? 

[12:21] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: Hi Gary, [[VoID]] subsets are generic ways to partition a dataset (not so much a space); 

One obvious use for this is finding the download URL of an RDF file by "Country" (say in Geonames dataset) 

[12:22] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: You could also specify these feature types have data in that particular "Country" 

[12:15] [[GaryBergCross]]: @Dave @Todd You 2 need to have a Hackathon on these ideas.. 

[12:17] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: @Todd... can you repeat the question you asked about representing CRS's in RDF? 

[12:24] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: Dave, I wanted to use geosparql:asWKT to describe BBOX; as I understand it, CRS 

is specified inside the geometry literal...is this correct? I was hoping I could directly assert CRS 

in RDF with geosparql vocab. 

[12:25] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: The CRS only lives in the literal in [[GeoSPARQL]], but you could potentially 

reference its uri with a different property... I'm not sure what you mean about using asWKT to 

describe BBOX? Do you mean an instance of a bounding box, or the concept of bounding boxes? 

[12:29] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: @Dave Ok. Will check out the CRS URI...I was referencing an instance of a 

bounding box (encoded as wkt). 

[12:31] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: So wouldn't a bounding box representation require a crs, and go in there in the normal way? 

[12:32] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: Why do you want it *not* in the literal? 

[12:32] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: Sorry, should have explained better. I was looking for a way to ask "What feature 

types are in dataset ABC that use EPSG:4326?". 

[12:32] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: Ah! 

[12:32] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: ...without having to scan every WKT literal to detect. 

[12:33] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: Got it. If there isn't one already, there should be a filter function for getting 

the crs out of a literal 

[12:33] [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]]: and that could be optimized on the kb side 

[12:34] [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]: Great. Thanks! 

[12:24] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[ChaoweiYang|Chaowei Yang]] (Phil) presenting ... 

[12:25] [[GaryBergCross]]: Should slides be advancing? 

[12:29] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Phil - ref. your slide#7 ... are your planning to stand up your own ontology 

repository; if not, what/who are the ontology repository people you are planning to work with? 

[12:43] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Chaowei - please look at what we are doing in the OOR Initiative 

- see: http://oor.net ... and in particular the SOCoP instance at: http://socop.oor.net 

[12:39] [[GaryBergCross]]: @Chaowei This use of social science methods for developing ontologies / ODPs 

is a good topic for a future SOCoP workshop. 

[12:40] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]: open Q&A ... 

[12:36] [[GaryBergCross]]: BTW Follow on questions and discussion is possible later using the 

SOCoP Forum http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/socop-forum/ 

[12:38] [[GaryBergCross]]: Any thoughts out there on the value and interest in a workshop on this in the 

Fall? Who would be interested in coming? 

[12:43] [[JimJacobs|Jim Jacobs]]: Many thanks to all the speakers and organizers. Cheers! 

[12:47] [[GaryBergCross]]: @Jim - One step in that direction is the deepening modeling of Roles which 

are social in nature... Nicola Guarino is one source of these ideas.. 

[12:48] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]: -- session adjourned - 3:47 pm EDT -- 

-- end of in-session chat-transcript -- 

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== Attendees  ==

* Attended: 
** [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]] (chair) 
** [[DouglasFils|Douglas Fils]] 
** [[DamianGessler|Damian Gessler]] 
** [[DaveKolas|Dave Kolas]] 
** [[VeronikaMegler|Veronika Megler]] 
** [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]] 
** PhilipMurphy 
** [[WenwenLi|Wenwen Li]] 
** [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]] 
** [[ChaoweiYang|Chaowei Yang]] (PhilYang) 
** [[GaryBergCross]] 
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] 
** AlberSanchez 
** [[AlexMirzaoff|Alex Mirzaoff]] 
** [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]] 
** [[AnneThessen|Anne Thessen]] 
** [[DaliaVaranka|Dalia Varanka]] 
** [[DanCerys|Dan Cerys]] 
** [[FranLightsom|Fran Lightsom]] 
** [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]] 
** [[JimJacobs|Jim Jacobs]] 
** [[JimKirby|Jim Kirby]] 
** [[JoelBender|Joel Bender]] 
** [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]] 
** [[MarshallXMa]] 
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] 
** [[NaijunZhou|Naijun Zhou]] 
** [[NicholasDelRio]] 
** [[OlaAhlqvist|Ola Ahlqvist]] 
** PatrickWest 
** [[PaulKoch|Paul Koch]] 
** [[RalphGrove|Ralph Grove]] 
** [[RobertRovetto|Robert Rovetto]] 
** [[TalesPaivaNogueira]] 
** [[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]] 
** WilliamMiller 
** DouglasNebert 
** [[SergeyKrikov|Sergey Krikov]] 
** [[SongGao|Song Gao]] 
** AhmadAssaf 
** BernardValentin 
** [[DavidGovoni|David Govoni]] 
** ... 

* Expecting: 
** YassineLassoued 
** [[DeborahMacPherson]] 
** [[BevCorwin|Bev Corwin]] 
** ChrisJenkins 
** [[MaryWong|Mary Wong]] 
*  
** ''please add yourself to the list if you are a member of the SOCoP or [[WikiHomePage|Ontolog]] community'' 

* Regrets: 
** [[User:TorstenHahmann|Torsten Hahmann]] 
** ... 

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