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= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-29  =

=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===

* Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-29 

* Agenda Comments: 
** ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. 
** In particular, we will be devoting a portion of this call to work on the planning and organizing-team sync-up for our upcoming 2005.10.20 Semantic Web Services Ontology Standard Discussion Session. Therefore, we need, in particular, [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]], JohnDomingue, [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] EMichaelMaximilien and other candidate panelists,  as well as those who have suggestions for this discussion session to come to this planning session. 
** please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|[[WebDAV]]] upload] prior to the meeting 
** VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ 
*** view-only password: "ontolog" 
*** view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed 
** Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_09_29 
* Date: Thursday, Sep. 29, 2005 
* Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM UTC [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=29&year=2005&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock] 
* Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour 
* Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) 
* Participant Access Code: "686564#" 

=== Attendees  ===

* Attended: 
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] 
** JohnDomingue 
** [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] 
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] 
** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] 
** [[PatCassidy|Pat Cassidy]] 
** [[MonicaMartin|Monica Martin]] 
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]] 
** EMichaelMaximilien 

* Expecting: 
** [[CarlReed|Carl Reed]] 
** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]] 
** ''...(add your name here)...'' 

* Regrets: 
** [[PaulKoch|Paul Koch]] 
** [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]] 
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] 
** [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] 

=== Agenda Ideas  ===

== Agenda & Proceedings  ==

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda 

* [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] took the chair and welcomed everyone. 

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes 

* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered 

3) Roll-call of participants 

* see [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_29|above]] 

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future) 

* Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis): 
** member regular meeting 
** invited speaker session 
** scheduled discussion 
** project review 
** workshop / work session 
** planning 

* in view of the fact that EMichaelMaximilien can only join us for the first 30 minutes, we'll try to cover [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_29|item 8 of the agenda]] first. 

* Scheduled Ontolog Events 
** Thu Oct. 13 2005 - [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed ([[BillMcCarthy]]) 
** Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep]] 
*** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]], JohnDomingue, [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it 
*** 2005.09.21 call report: EMichaelMaximilien trying to recruit some OWL-S experts 
*** devoting part of this call session to the planning and organizing-team sync-up for this event (see [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_29|below]]) 

* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months 
** Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond - 
*** John Sowa (suggested by [[BillMcCarthy]]) 
*** [[DougLenat|Doug Lenat]] on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim) 
*** Nicola Guarino on [[DOLCE]], possibly also [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] or [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (suggested by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & PatCassidy) 
*** LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull) 
*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & PeterYim's [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse]) 
*** [[JimSpohrer|Jim Spohrer]] from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion) 
** other suggestions: 
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group 
*** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel 
*** Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project 
**** Professor Dogac's work has also been previous [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_27_11#nid9DI recommended by] [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ 
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time 
*** Rex / Peter: XMDR - [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]] or someone from his XMDR team 
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[DeborahMcGuinness]] 
*** To be brought up for discussion today: 
**** [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]]: [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] 
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / Mark Musen / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI) 
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: RoyRoebuck 
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html 
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C 
**** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (new!): [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]] some time early 2006 (on some of the work he is doing at Boeing) 
*** Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to 
**** suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa 

* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates: 
** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful 
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] -- other topics lined up? 
** a panel with speaker representating: [[SUMO]], OpenCyc Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by PeterYim) 
*** possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE 
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion 
** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel 
** we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005 
** candidates for November, 2005 
*** Rex: propose "Emergency Response" 
*** Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane. 
*** Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion 
*** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war) 
**** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec. 
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards" 
**** candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, [[MarkCrawford|Mark Crawford]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]], [[AdamPease|Adam Pease]], [[MikeDaconta|Mike Daconta]], [[JimHendler|Jim Hendler]], [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (moderator?) 
**** maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop? 
*** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it 
** 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question. 
*** Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog 
**** Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session 

* Deferring discussion on upcoming invitations to next week - ConferenceCall_2005_10_06 
** Rex asked for the availability of a next slot ... 
** Kurt: likely in November 
** Kurt / Peter: we'll spend more time at next week's call to tie down our next speakers and discussion topics 

* Upcoming Events of interest 
** Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City 
** Oct. 5, 2005 - see http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?[[OntologyandTaxonomyCoordinatingWGMeeting_2005_10_05]] 
** National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html 
*** wants to know if call-in is supported 

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues 

6) Follow-ups from previous calls 

* post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_09_08 [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] & ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] invited speaker sessions 
** what worked well 
** what could be improved 
** ideas for the future 
** Peter: special vote of thanks to both Elisa and Jon for their wonderful presentations 
** Monica: we should keep a focus on the business case and applicability, alongside discussion of technology 

* Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on [[RegularConferenceCall]] scheduling 

7) Current Project Status Report 

* Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work 
** Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases) 
** Formalization issues 
** UBL Liaison update 
** [CCT-Rep] status report 

* Status of Protege-KIF project work 

* status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work 
** representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C. 
** Kurt: Bob and Kurt had discussed possibilities of engaging people (with affinity in ontology and semantic technologies) from Intel now that Craig Barrett (Intel CEO) is in the AHIC Commission. 
*** solicitation to members of this community to suggest good candidates we should engage 

* UBL liaison report 

* SICoP liaison report 
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] and Mark Musen received a special recognition from SICoP during the 2005.09.14 SICoP meeting in the Washington DC area. 
*** see: Brand Niemann's slide #26 at: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SICoPConference_2005_09_14#nid2YEE 
*** the Ontolog Forum's contribution has been duly recognized in this award! 
*** Citation: 

Federal CIO Council's Semantic Interoperability Community of Practice (<nowiki>SICoP</nowiki>)

Special Recognition

[[PeterYim|Peter Yim]], President & CEO of CIM Engineering, Inc., and [[MarkMusen|Mark Musen]], Stanford Medical Informatics, Stanford University

For Outstanding Contributions to Providing Critical Infrastructure for Collaborative Ontology Development:

The Ontolog Forum, The Collaboration Wiki, Prot&eacute;g&eacute;, and The Server for Multi-User Prot&eacute;g&eacute; 

That Support <nowiki>SICoP</nowiki> and Other Federal Communities of Practice, 

the New National Center for Ontological Research, 

and a World-Wide Community.

Presented at the 2005 <nowiki>SICoP</nowiki> Annual Meeting, September 14, 2005, at the MITRE Corporation, <nowiki>McLean</nowiki>, VA, 

by <nowiki>SICoP</nowiki> Chair,  [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]], U.S. EPA.

[[http://km.gov KM.GOV]]    [[http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SICoP SICoP]] 

* Planning team report 

8) project work session / discussion 

* 2005.10.20 Semantic Web Services Ontology Standard Panel Discussion Session Planning - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep]] 
** oustanding issues to be addressed - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep#nidGC9 
** Finalized panelists: JohnDomingue (WSMO), [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (SWSF / FLOWS), [[AmitSheth|Amit Sheth]] of U of Georgia (WSDL-S), and [[DavidMartin|David Martin]] of SRI (OWL-S) &nbsp;&nbsp; 
** Nicolas will move an abstract and a list of pertinent questions to frame the discussion onto the 2005.10.20 session page 

9) New project proposals 

* Nicolas asked Peter / CIM3 about possibility on hosting some ontology tools development work. Peter says that is welcomed, and suggested to take the conversation off-line. 

10) Sponsorship and funding 

11) Other business 

12) Next meeting date and adjourn 

* regular call adjourned 11:39 am PDT 
* next call will be on Thu 2005-10-06 starting at 10:30 am PDT 

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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2005.09.29 

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