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Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-1 - Tue 2011_10_20     (1)

Topic: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort     (1A)

Co-chairs: Professor JohnBateman (Bremen University) & Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto)     (1B)

Abstract     (1D)

This is the kick-off session of the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series, co-championed by Professor Michael Grüninger (University of Toronto) and Professor John Bateman (Bremen University), who among their other roles, co-chair the Standardization Coordination Committee of IAOA.     (1D1)
OntoIOp (ISO NP 17347) is a new standards development project that is designed to achieve ontology integration and interoperability. It proposes the Distributed Ontology Language (DOL) for distributed knowledge representation across multiple ontologies, particularly ontologies that have been formalized in different ontology languages.     (1D2)

In particular, it supports heterogeneous ontologies that combine parts written in different languages; links between distributed and heterogeneous ontologies and ontology modules; annotation and documentation of ontologies, links between ontologies, entities, and axioms; and translations between different ontology languages. This standard is being developed by ISO/TC37/SC3/WG3.     (1D3)

An overview and the roadmap for the OntoIOp project will be presented. This session will provide an opportunity for work group members and the community to discuss OntoIOp's relationships to other related standards, as well as to other ontology languages and initiatives.     (1D4)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1E)

Session Topic: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "OntoIOp"     (1E1)

Transcript of the online chat during the session     (1E3)

see raw transcript here.     (1E3A)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1E3B)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1E3C)

-- begin of chat session --     (1E3D)

[09:27] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the     (1E3E)

Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-1 - Tue 2011_10_20     (2)

Topic: Introducing the ISO/WD 17347 "OntoIOp"     (2A)

Co-chairs: Professor John Bateman (Bremen University) & Professor Michael Grüninger (University of     (2B)

Toronto)     (2C)

Mute / Unmute: moderator will mute everyone; raise your hand (with "hand button" at lower right)     (2E)

"*3" to unmute yourself; "*2" to go back into mute after you speak     (2F)

Proceedings:     (2G)

Christoph Lange: hi, this is ChristophLange. Oliver Kutz and Michael Grüninger are with me; we will use     (2G2)

one phone together, but separate chats     (2G3)

anonymous morphed into Till Mossakowski     (2G4)

Christoph Lange: i'm back in the phone conf     (2G5)

Peter P. Yim: Michael ... please speak up     (2G6)

Christopher Spottiswoode: I'm here but can't hear anyone.     (2G7)

Peter P. Yim: @ChristopherSpottiswoode - the session has just started, can you hear us yet?     (2G8)

anonymous morphed into Tim Boland     (2G9)

anonymous morphed into Fabian Neuhaus     (2G10)

Christopher Spottiswoode: @PeterYim: I have just seen your question... Yes all's fine, thanks!     (2G11)

Peter P. Yim: @ChristophLange - ref. your comment on access to working draft(s) ... please elaborate on     (2G12)

how that would work, for onotio-wg members, and the wider ontology community     (2G13)

Peter P. Yim: @ChristophLange - don't worry about answering now, I am (and encouraged for others too)     (2G14)

just capturing question while you are presenting, so we can address them later, during the Q&A and     (2G15)

discussion segment     (2G16)

Peter P. Yim: [action] - to get process in place to allow more people to contribute and provide feedback     (2G17)

during the working draft phase     (2G18)

Ali Hashemi: question for later, re slide 7: where would SWRL (and the other rule formalisms) be     (2G19)

located on the graphic in slide 7?     (2G20)

Ali Hashemi: related to it, are there plans underway to include them as conforming logics     (2G21)

Till Mossakowski: actually, we have not looked closer into rule formalism yet, but this is the next     (2G22)

thing we want to do     (2G23)

Michael Grüninger: @AliHashemi: SWRL with monotonic semantics is a subset of FOL. Technically, SWRL     (2G24)

is an extension of OWL (i.e. it specifies that SWRL atoms are equivalent to OWL classes and roles).     (2G25)

Ali Hashemi: (well same question for RIF which contains extra-logical bits)     (2G26)

Michael Grüninger: @AliHashemi: Can you give additional examples of "extra-logical bits"?     (2G27)

Ali Hashemi: I should be clear by what I mean by "extra-logic" - take the URD dialect for example     (2G28)

Matthew West: I'm afraid I have to leave. interesting session.     (2G33)

Peter P. Yim: thank you for coming, Matthew ... ttyl     (2G34)

Mike Bennett: I have to go now - thanks for great presentations and I'll be following this work with     (2G35)

interest.     (2G36)

Steve Ray: [regarding the ISO process -ed.] No comment at this point.     (2G37)

Christoph Lange: (for those on [ontoiop-wg]) link to Michael's examples:     (2G38)

Christoph Lange: (for those on [ontoiop-wg]) link to the e-mail thread discussing these examples:     (2G40)

Joel Bender: @SteveRay: are you involved in this effort?     (2G42)

Joel Bender: I am involved in ASHRAE/NEMA SPC 201P, under the auspices of NIST, developing a model     (2G43)

for information transfer between facilities and a national smart grid. One of the stickier problems     (2G44)

is the mapping of "space", "time", "measure" - specifically the terminology as published by NOAA     (2G45)

(OpenGIS), WS-Calendar (OASIS), IEC 61850, and semantic sensor networks (W3C), and units of measure     (2G46)

(OASIS - eventually). Any help out of DOL would be appreciated!     (2G47)

Steve Ray: My team has translated the entire ASHRAE SPC201P into OWL and is grinding through it,     (2G48)

looking for overlaps, duplications, inconsistencies.     (2G49)

Steve Ray: @MichaelGruninger - Interested in who is leading the IDIOM project.     (2G50)

Michael Grüninger: @SteveRay - David Price, David Leal, and Allison Barnard Feeney are actually the     (2G51)

editors of the IDIOM document that I have.     (2G52)

Steve Ray: @MichaelGruninger - Excellent! Thanks.     (2G53)

Joel Bender: Here is another project, which is more taxonomy rather than ontology,     (2G54)

http://project-haystack.org/ - I don't think the information is available in a formal notation     (2G55)

Christoph Lange: @JoelBender: Could you also provide some links to the space/time/measure     (2G56)

terminologies/ontologies?     (2G57)

Terry Longstreth: Is Sue Ellen's presentation on the wiki yet?     (2G58)

John Bateman: @Terry: the slides are there ...     (2G59)

Michael Grüninger: join us at the next session of this "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series -     (2G61)

Joel Bender: Thank you (good to "see" you again Peter)     (2G64)

Peter P. Yim: @Joel - yes, glad you are here!     (2G65)

[11:12] Peter P. Yim: - session ended: 11:11am PDT     (2G66)

-- end of chat session --     (2G67)

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