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= Joint [[RulesReasoningLP]] (s05) and [[OntologyBasedStandards]] (s07) mini-series session - Thu 2014_01_09 =
= [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] session-15: Final Symposium preparation and logistics - Thu 2014-04-24 =


Program: '''A Joint session for the Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]]) mini-series and the [[OntologyBasedStandards]] mini-series'''  
* Summit Theme: '''OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"'''  


Topic: '''Rule Standards: [[CommonLogic|Common Logic]], [[RuleML]], and [[RIF]]'''  
* Session Topic: '''Final pre-symposium preparation and review'''  


Session Co-chairs: '''Professor HaroldBoley''' (U of New Brunswick), '''Mr. MikeDean''' (Raytheon BBN Technologies) & '''Professor AdrianPaschke''' (Freie Universität Berlin) ...  [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Rule-Standards_intro--HaroldBoley-MikeDean-AdrianPaschke_20140109.pdf intro slides]
* Session Co-chairs: '''Dr. RamSriram''' ([[NIST]]) & '''Professor TimFinin''' (UMBC)  


Panelists / Briefings:
==[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/2014-04-24_OntologySummit2014_pre-symposium-review/ Archives]==


* '''Professor MichaelGruninger''' ([[IAOA]]; U of Toronto) - "'''Common Logic Second Edition'''" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/CommonLogic-v2--MichaelGruninger_20140109.pdf slides]
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|Abstract]]'''  
* '''Professor AdrianPaschke''' ([[RuleML]]; Freie Universität Berlin) - "'''The [[RuleML]] Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards'''" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Reaction-RuleML--AdrianPaschke_20140109.pdf slides]
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|Agenda]]'''  
* '''Professor MichaelKifer''' ([[W3C]]/[[RIF]]; Stony Brook University) - "'''The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects'''" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/RIF-and-Its-Dialects--MichaelKifer_20140109.pdf slides]
* '''Prepared presentation material''' can be accessed by clicking on each of the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/2014-04-28_29_OntologySummit2014_Symposium/wip/ title links] below:  
 
** '''[ [[OntologySummit2014_Symposium|0-Symposium homepage]] ] . [ [[OntologySummit2014_Symposium|1-Symposium Agenda]] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration 2-Registration-Logistics] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/OntologySummit2014_Communique/wip/OntologySummit2014CommuniqueDraft_20140423-0855.pdf 3-Communique (final draft)] ]'''  
==[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/ Archives]==
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|transcript of the online chat]]''' during the session  
 
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/2014-04-24_OntologySummit2014_pre-symposium-review/OntologySummit2014-s15_20140423b.mp3 Audio recording of the session]''' ... [ 0:58:49 ; mp3 ; 10.1 MB ]  
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|Abstract]]'''  
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|Agenda]]'''  
* '''Prepared presentation material (slides)''' can be accessed by clicking on each of the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/ title links] below:  
** '''[ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Rule-Standards_intro--HaroldBoley-MikeDean-AdrianPaschke_20140109.pdf 0-Chair] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/CommonLogic-v2--MichaelGruninger_20140109.pdf 1-Gruninger] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Reaction-RuleML--AdrianPaschke_20140109.pdf 2-Paschke] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/RIF-and-Its-Dialects--MichaelKifer_20140109.pdf 3-Kifer] ]'''  
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|Transcript of the online chat]]''' during the session  
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/RuleStandards_20140109b.mp3 Audio recording of the session]''' ... [ 1:49:50 ; mp3 ; 12.57 MB ]  
** its best that you listen to the session while having the respective presentations (linked above) opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.  
** its best that you listen to the session while having the respective presentations (linked above) opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.  
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|Additional Resources]]'''  
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|Additional Resources]]'''  


== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ==
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===


* Date: '''Thursday, 9-Jan-2014'''  
* Date: '''Thursday, 24-Apr-2014'''  
* Start Time: 9:30am PST / 12:30pm EST / 6:30pm CET / 17:30 GMT/UTC  
* Start Time: 9:30am PDT / 12:30pm EDT / 6:30pm CEST / 5:30pm BST / 16:30 UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=9&year=2014&hour=9&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=24&year=2014&hour=9&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: ~2.0 hours  
* Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 hours  


* Dial-in:  
* Dial-in:  
** '''Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100''' ... (long distance cost may apply)
** '''Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100''' ... when prompted enter '''Conference ID: 141184#''' ... (long distance cost may apply)
*** when prompted enter '''Conference ID: 141184#'''  
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*** (for phone dial-in) ... some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/  
*** (for phone dial-in) ... some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/  
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*** if you are using skype and the connection to "joinconference" is not holding up, try using (your favorite POTS or [[VoIP]] line, etc.) either your phone, skype-out or google-voice  and call the US dial-in number:  +1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#


* '''Shared-screen support''' (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ ... ''view-only password: "ontolog"''  
* '''Shared-screen support''' (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ ... ''view-only password: "ontolog"''  
** if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.  
** if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.  
** people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|slides above]]''' (where applicable) and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.  
** people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the '''[[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|material above]]''' (where applicable) and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.  


* '''In-session chat'''-room url: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20140109
* '''In-session chat'''-room url: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/summit_20140424
** instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field from "anonymous" to your real name, like "JaneDoe").  
** instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field from "anonymous" to your real name, like "JaneDoe").  
** You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.  
** You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.  
** thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) ontolog_20140109@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!  
** thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. Digsby or Adium) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) summit_20140313@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!  


* '''Discussions and Q & A:'''  
* '''Discussions and Q & A:'''  
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* Please review our Virtual Session Tips and Ground Rules - see: [[VirtualSpeakerSessionTips]]  
* Please review our Virtual Session Tips and Ground Rules - see: [[VirtualSpeakerSessionTips]]  


* '''RSVP''' '' to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated,'' ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.)  
* '''RSVP''' '' to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] with your affiliation,'' ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendees" list below (if you are already a member of the community.)  


* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_09
* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_24
 
* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].


== Attendees  ==
== Attendees  ==


* Attended: (including all registrants)
* Attended:  
** [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]] (co-chair)  
** [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]] (co-chair)  
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] (co-chair)  
** [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] (co-chair)  
** [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] (co-chair)
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]
** [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]]
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]
** [[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]]
** [[BethHuffer|Beth Huffer]]
** [[DennisPierson|Dennis Pierson]]
** [[FrankLinton|Frank Linton]]
** [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]  
** [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]  
** [[ElizabethFlorescu|Elizabeth Florescu]]  
** [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]
** [[ChristiKapp|Christi Kapp]]
** [[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]  
** [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]]  
** [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]]  
** [[PaulTyson|Paul Tyson]]
** [[JonathanBona|Jonathan Bona]]
** [[MitchKokar|Mitch Kokar]]
** [[PieterPauwels|Pieter Pauwels]]
** [[AdrianWalker|Adrian Walker]]
** [[PatrickMaroney|Patrick Maroney]]
** [[BillFreeman|Bill Freeman]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]
** [[PeteRivett|Pete Rivett]]
** [[MichaelBarnett|Michael Barnett]]
** GenZou
** [[BobKowalski|Bob Kowalski]]
** [[BiplabSarker|Biplab Sarker]]
** [[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]]
** [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]
** [[MarwanGhabin|Marwan Ghabin]]
** [[AnnRacuyaRobbins]]
** [[JohnMcClure]]
** [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]
** [[HassanAitKaci]]
** [[NaicongLi|Naicong Li]]
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
** [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]
** [[BobbinTeegarden|Bobbin Teegarden]]
** [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]
** [[PavithraKenjige|Pavithra Kenjige]]
** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]
** [[FranciscoEdgarCastilloBarrera]]
** [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]
** [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]]
** [[ConradBock|Conrad Bock]]
** [[HensonGraves|Henson Graves]]
** [[JoelBender|Joel Bender]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]  
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]  
** [[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[MarcelaVegetti|Marcela Vegetti]]
** [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]
** [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]  
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]  
** [[PeteRivett|Pete Rivett]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (scribe)
** [[RoyBell|Roy Bell]]  
** [[SundayOjo|Sunday Ojo]]  
** [[SteveMandl|Steve Mandl]]  
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]  
** [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]]  
** [[UriShani|Uri Shani]]  
** [[VictorAgroskin|Victor Agroskin]]
** ...


* Expecting:  
* Expecting:  
** ''all presenter at the Symposium''
** ''all registrants for the Symposium who may have questions (optional)''
** [[KrzysztofJanowicz|Krzysztof Janowicz]]
** [[PascalHitzler|Pascal Hitzler]]
** [[AnneThessen|Anne Thessen]]
** [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]]
** [[SimonSpero|Simon Spero]]
** [[AngelaCarter|Angela Carter]]
** [[FouadRamia|Fouad Ramia]]
** ...  
** ...  
** (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)''  
** ''(please add yourself to the list if you are a member of the [[WikiHomePage|Ontolog]] or [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]] community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>)''  


* Regrets:  
* Regrets:  
** [[ElieAbiLahoud]]  
** [[AlanRector|Alan Rector]]
** [[DanBrickley|Dan Brickley]]
** [[GaryBergCross]]  
** ...  
** ...  


== Abstract  ==
== Abstract  ==


'''Rule Standards: [[CommonLogic|Common Logic]], [[RuleML]], and [[RIF]]''' ... [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Rule-Standards_intro--HaroldBoley-MikeDean-AdrianPaschke_20140109.pdf intro slides]  
'''OntologySummit2014 Session-15: "Final pre-symposium preparation and review"''' - [[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|materials]]  


This is the 5th session of the [[RulesReasoningLP]] mini-series - a series of virtual panel sessions, and the associated online discourse, co-championed by some members of the Ontolog community who value the importance of the subject matter and would want to bring together those who are knowledgeable or interested into a dialog. The mini-series program will cover the topics that encapsulates the ontology-driven applications that will generally fall under "Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications."
This is our 9th [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]], a joint initiative by [[Ontolog]], [[NIST]], [[NCOR]], [[NCBO]], [[IAOA]] & [[NCO_NITRD]] with the support of our co-sponsors.  


The focus of this session is on standards for rule languages. Panelists include [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (Common Logic Second Edition), [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] (The [[RuleML]] Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards), and [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]] (The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects).  
Since the beginnings of the Semantic Web, ontologies have played key roles in the design and deployment of new semantic technologies. Yet over the years, the level of collaboration between the Semantic Web and Applied Ontology communities has been much less than expected. Within Big Data applications, ontologies appear to have had little impact.  


After the panelists briefings, there will be time for Q&A and an open discussion among the panel and all the participants.  
This year's Ontology Summit is an opportunity for building bridges between the Semantic Web, Linked Data, Big Data, and Applied Ontology communities. On the one hand, the Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Big Data communities can bring a wide array of real problems (such as performance and scalability challenges and the variety problem in Big Data) and technologies (automated reasoning tools) that can make use of ontologies. On the other hand, the Applied Ontology community can bring a large body of common reusable content (ontologies) and ontological analysis techniques. Identifying and overcoming ontology engineering bottlenecks is critical for all communities.  


See more details at: '''[[RulesReasoningLP]]''' (homepage for this mini-series)
[[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] will pose and address the primary challenges in these areas of interaction among the different communities. The Summit activities will bring together insights and methods from these different communities, synthesize new insights, and disseminate knowledge across field boundaries.


=== Briefings  ===
At the [[ConferenceCall_2014_01_16|Launch Event on 16 Jan 2014]], the organizing team has provided an overview of the program, and how we will be framing the discourse - namely, to pursue that along four different content tracks that address different aspects of the issue at hand.


* '''Professor MichaelGruninger''' ([[IAOA]]; U of Toronto) - "'''Common Logic Second Edition'''" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/CommonLogic-v2--MichaelGruninger_20140109.pdf slides]
In this 15th community session of the Summit, the last of the virtual sessions, we will do a final review on everything, and prepare ourselves for the [[OntologySummit2013_Symposium]], the two-day face-to-face event hosted by the [[NCO_NITRD]] at [[NSF]] (Metropolitan Washington D.C., USA) on April 28 & 29 (i.e. next Monday and Tuesday) which this Summit will culminate in.  
** ''Abstract:'' Common Logic (ISO 24707) is a family of logic languages whose
model-theoretic semantics is an extension of first-order logic
Since its publication as an International Standard in 2007,
numerous applications of Common Logic have led to the
identification of several problems and shortcomings of the language.
This talk will give an overview of the current draft for the Second Edition
of Common Logic that addresses these issues.  


* '''Professor AdrianPaschke''' (Freie Universit&auml;t Berlin) - "'''The [[RuleML]] Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards'''" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Reaction-RuleML--AdrianPaschke_20140109.pdf slides]
More details about this [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]] is available at: '''OntologySummit2014''' (homepage for this summit)  
** ''Abstract:'' [[RuleML]] is a family of XML languages whose modular system of schemas permits (Web) rule interchange via semantic profiles and extensions. The Deliberation [[RuleML]] subfamily, bridging between Common Logic and RIF, includes Datalog, Horn logic, and First Order Logic. The Reaction [[RuleML]] subfamily, extending these standards, includes Production / Condition-Action (CA) and Event-Condition-Action (ECA) rules, the latter allowing Complex Event Processing (CEP). The MYNG tool permits fine-grained schema modularization supporting customized configuration of deliberation-reaction sublanguages within a standardized supremum language family. Translators in Java, ANTLR, and XSLT allow rule interchange between various languages. We discuss [[RuleML]]'s bridging experience as the rule community is gaining new momentum.
** ''Reference:'' see (slides for) an extended version of this presentation [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/Reaction-RuleML--AdrianPaschke_20140109_long.pdf here]
 
* '''Professor MichaelKifer''' (Stony Brook University) - "'''The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects'''" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/RIF-and-Its-Dialects--MichaelKifer_20140109.pdf slides]
** ''Abstract:'' The Rule Interchange Format (RIF) is a W3C recommendation for exchanging
rules over the Web. It was developed in response to the need for rule-based
information processing on the Semantic Web.
Despite its humble name, RIF is not just a format and is not primarily
about syntax. It is an extensible framework for rule-based languages,
called RIF dialects. It includes precise and formal specification of
the syntax, semantics, and XML serialization of the dialects. In this
talk I will discuss the main principles behind RIF, introduce the RIF
extensibility framework, discuss the existing RIF dialects, and ponder
about the current status of the standard.
** ''Reference:'' see (slides for) an extended version of this presentation [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/rif-ontolog-full--MichaelKifer_20140109.pdf here]


== Agenda  ==
== Agenda  ==


'''Joint [[RulesReasoningLP]] (s05) & [[OntologyBasedStandards]] (s07) session'''  
'''OntologySummit2014 - Virtual Session-15'''  


:'''Session Format:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call  
* '''Session Format:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call  


* 1. Session opening: introductions - co-chairs: [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] & [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] (10 min.) ... [[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|slides]]  
* 1. Opening: [[OntologySummit2014_Symposium]] (co-chairs) - [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] & [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]] ... [ [[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|materials]] ]  
* 2. Panel Briefings - [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]], [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]], [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]] (18~20 min. ea)
* 2. Review of symposium agenda and status of preparation - symposium co-chairs and all speakers
* 3. Open discussion - ALL (20 min.) ... ref. [[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|process above]]  
* 3. Q & A and open discussion relating to the symposium (agenda, presentation prep, logistics, BOF sessions, ...) - All ... please refer to [[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|process above]]  
* 4. Wrap-up - co-chairs: [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] & [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]]
* 4. Q & A and open discussion relating to the any other pertinent issues (Communique, get togethers, ...) - All
* 5. Status review / Follow-up actions - (co-chairs)
* 6. Announcements / Wrap Up - (co-chairs)


== Proceedings  ==
== Proceedings  ==


Please refer to the [[ConferenceCall_2014_01_09|above]] ... ''(details coming!)''
Please refer to the [[ConferenceCall_2014_04_24|above]]  


===IM Chat Transcript captured during the session===  
===IM Chat Transcript captured during the session===  


see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/RuleStandards_chat-transcript_unedited_20140109a.txt here].  
see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/2014-04-24_OntologySummit2014_pre-symposium-review/OntologySummit2014-s15_chat-transcript_unedited_20140424a.txt here].  


(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/RulesReasoningLP/2014-01-09_Rule-Standards/RuleStandards_chat-transcript_edited_20140109b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)
(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/2014-04-24_OntologySummit2014_pre-symposium-review/OntologySummit2014-s15_chat-transcript_edited_20140424b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)


Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.  
Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.  
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[9:15] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the  
[9:24] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the  


''' Joint [[RulesReasoningLP]] (s05) and [[OntologyBasedStandards]] (s07) mini-series session - 2014_01_09 '''  
''' [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] session-15: Final Symposium preparation and logistics - Thu 2014-04-24 '''  


Program: A Joint session for the Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications
Summit Theme: [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]]: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"


([[RulesReasoningLP]]) mini-series and the [[OntologyBasedStandards]] mini-series
Session Topic: Final pre-symposium preparation and review


Topic: Rule Standards: [[CommonLogic|Common Logic]], [[RuleML]], and RIF
Session Co-chairs: Dr. [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] (NIST) & Professor [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]] (UMBC)


Session Co-chairs:  
AGENDA:  


* Professor [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]] (U of New Brunswick),
1. Opening: [[OntologySummit2014_Symposium]] (co-chairs) - [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] & [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]]


* Mr. [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] (Raytheon BBN Technologies), and
2. Review of symposium agenda and status of preparation - symposium co-chairs and all speakers


* Professor [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] (Freie Universitat Berlin)  
3. Q & A and open discussion relating to the symposium (agenda, presentation prep, logistics, BOF sessions, ...) - All


Panelists / Briefings:
4. Q & A and open discussion relating to the any other pertinent issues (Communique, get togethers, ...) - All


* Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (IAOA; U of Toronto) - "Common Logic Second Edition"
5. Status review / Follow-up actions - (co-chairs)  


* Professor [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] ([[RuleML]]; Freie Universit&auml;t Berlin) - "The [[RuleML]] Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards"
6. Announcements / Wrap Up - (co-chairs)  
 
* Professor [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]] (W3C/RIF; Stony Brook University) - "The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects"


Logistics:  
Logistics:  


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Attendees: [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]], [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]], [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]], [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]], [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]],
 
[[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]], [[BiplabSarker|Biplab Sarker]], [[BobKowalski|Bob Kowalski]], [[BobbinTeegarden|Bobbin Teegarden]], [[ConradBock|Conrad Bock]],
 
[[DennisPierson|Dennis Pierson]], [[ElizabethFlorescu|Elizabeth Florescu]], [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]], GenZou, [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]], [[HassanAitKaci]], [[HensonGraves|Henson Graves]],
 
[[JoelBender|Joel Bender]], [[JohnMcClure]], [[JonathanBona|Jonathan Bona]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MarwanGhabin|Marwan Ghabin]], [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]],
 
[[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]], [[PaulFodor|Paul Fodor]], [[PaulTyson|Paul Tyson]], [[PeteRivett|Pete Rivett]], [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]],
 
[[PieterPauwels|Pieter Pauwels]], Pipauwel, [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]], [[RoyBell|Roy Bell]], [[SteveMandl|Steve Mandl]], [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]], [[ToddPehle|Todd Pehle]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]],
 
[[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]], [[VictorAgroskin|Victor Agroskin]],
 
Err:510
 
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[9:23] [[PieterPauwels|Pieter Pauwels]]: okay, just did that
 
[9:23] [[PieterPauwels|Pieter Pauwels]]: thank you
 
[9:26] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Thank you, Pieter
 
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[9:31] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: [ref. Peter;s verbal comment that the "hum" on the line may have been introduced
 
by Mike] I am muted locally buzz isn't me?
 
[9:31] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I'll redial
 
[9:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Did it stop? Was using joiconference
 
[9:32] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: phew!
 
[9:32] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: It did stop, Mike
 
[9:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Odd. I could hear it too, which is odd if one is the originator of a noise.
 
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[9:34] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: Lots of background noise today. Perhaps people with stuff going on around them
 
could mute locally, if they don't need to speak now.
 
[9:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Any quieter? Muted locally of course.
 
[9:35] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: Normal level of background noise now. The star wars effects went away. :-)
 
[9:36] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: T.
 
[9:48] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @MikeBennett ... apologies, it was HensonGraves' phone line, and not yours, that
 
was injecting the hum earlier!
 
[9:49] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @Peter No worries, I changed as many things as I could anyway.
 
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[9:37] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]] started the session ...
 
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[9:41] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] presenting ... refer to slides under:
 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_09#nid438F
 
[9:49] [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]]: [ref. MichaelGruninger's slide#5 enumerating standards that uses
 
CommonLogic] What about OMG SBVR (it is ontology standard with reference to Common Logic too)?
 
[9:50] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @MichaelGruninger: slide#5 - [[OntoIOp]] ("OMG" instead of "ISO") ... will supply an
 
update to this slide
 
[9:46] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: @MichaelGruninger: do you have an example of something in the Universe of Reference
 
that is not in the Universe of Discourse?
 
[9:50] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: @Leo- the universe of discourse is simply the subset of the universe of reference
 
that quantifier range over. It is a matter of design. An upper ontology could use a domain of
 
reference containing (only) spatial entities, and have a parthood relation P that describes the
 
mereology. The symbol P does not denote any spatial entity, so it is in the universe of reference,
 
but not in the universe of discourse.
 
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[10:01] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: @MichaelGruninger, when the CL update is finalized will it be made available
 
without charge?
 
[10:05] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @ToddSchneider -- yes, it will be available without charge, but you will
 
need to access it through the ISO website and agree to the copyright terms specified there.
 
[10:08] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: The free version of the current CL standard can be accessed through this page:
 
http://iso-commonlogic.org/
 
[10:04] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] presenting ...
 
[10:26] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]] presenting ...
 
[10:31] [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]]: Michael K is now on slide 4.
 
[10:32] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Thanks, Tara. What if you wanted a family of P part relations, and wanted to
 
quantify over those: then P would go into the universe of discourse? That's quantifying over
 
relations, however. Maybe my example here is somewhat contrived.
 
[10:34] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @LeoObrst: Yes, that is what is going on in slide 14 (titled Segregated
 
and Unsegregated Dialects)
 
[10:35] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: It will be interesting to figure out the [[RuleLog]] angle of the open CL
 
semantic/syntactic issues. of the semantic and syntactic issues listed for CL by MichaelGruninger.
 
One such issue for Rulelog may be circularity in inclusion (KB import).


[10:35] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: @AdrianPaschke: can you only have negation-as-failure for Reaction rules? Or also
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a form of logical negation?
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[11:08] [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]]: @Leo: negation in the definition of complex event definitions (event
** always provide context (like: "[ref. JaneDoe's slide#12], I think the point about context is great" ... rather than "that's great!"


patterns) is typically an event operator, which means this event should not occur within an interval
as the latter would mean very little in the archives.)


of events or time intervals. Negation can also occur in the condition part of reaction rules. Here
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it can be negation as failure as in normal logic programs or strong negation as in extended logic
the timestamp (in PST) of his/her post that you are responding to (e.g. "@JaneDoe [11:09] - I agree, but, ...")


programs. There are also extensions of production rules for complex event processing where the
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negation is a kind of inflationary negation.  
Attendees: [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]] (co-chair), [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] (co-chair), [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]], [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[ChristiKapp|Christi Kapp]],


[10:50] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: @MichaelKifer: if one wanted to map between CL and RIF, I guess it would be to the
[[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]], [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MarcelaVegetti|Marcela Vegetti]], [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]],


RIF-FLD, right? Has that been considered?
[[MatthewWest|Matthew West]], [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (scribe), [[SundayOjo|Sunday Ojo]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]], [[UriShani|Uri Shani]]


[10:53] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: In regard to RIF dialects development: Also, one of the first dialects
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drafted under RIF FLD is for Rulelog (earlier called SILK). Currently this is being developed via
[9:37] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]] & [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] starts the session on behalf of the co-chairs ...  


[[RuleML]], with probable submission to W3C and OASIS.  
[9:33] [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]]: Some items for today...  


[10:54] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: SILK project was one of the first implementations of RIF-BLD.  
[] We need to decide on the refreshments and get them ordered from the caterer (Geppetto) today. Who


[10:55] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: @MichaelGruninger, What is the prognosis for commercial support for CL? In
will order (Angela Carter?). Maybe we should go with coffee for 85 people and snacks for 60 in the


particular reasoners?
morning. We need to see what money we have promised. I'm unsure how we arrange for the payments,


[10:57] [[BobKowalski|Bob Kowalski]]: Are inductive definition included in Common Logic?
given the several sponsors.


[10:57] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: Actually it is possible to have a segregated dialect and still quantify over
[] We need to review what slides have been submitted and ping for those outstanding/


*some* relations (like hilog.)
[] We should have someone identified to introduce each invited speaker and put their name on the


[10:58] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @BobKowalski: No, inductive definitions are not covered by Common Logic.  
agenda.  


[11:01] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: yes
[] we may want to note on the agenda which presentations will be done remotely, if only to avoid


[10:58] [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]]: @Benjamin, is your Question about CL or RIF?
confusion.


[11:01] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: my question is about CL
[] Let's go with The Front Page (4201 Wilson Boulevard) for the dinner. Someone needs to make an


[11:02] [[PaulTyson|Paul Tyson]]: @MichaelKifer on slide 20 all hyperlinks go to w3c rif-bld spec.  
initial reservation for 20-25 people at 6:30. Who will make reservation and by when (e.g., Friday?).  


[11:03] [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]]: @PaulTyson: sorry, the FLD link should be changed: bld->fld ... [PeterYim:
We should have a sign-up sheet or form onsite for people to use so we can note any change in the


slide has now been updated]
number to convey to the restaurant.


[11:08] [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]]: have to leave now to catch my train.
[] we can use one or two more panelists. I guess I'll remove carol bean, so we only have four, even


[11:08] [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]: @Peter, it should be interesting to invite Hets project somebody to talk:-)
with me. Need to get Mike Gruninger to send panelists the questions by Friday.


[--:--] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @AlexShkotin, we have had presentations of that before (a little while back,
[] Ram and Tim may want to have at least one slide for the opening and for the closing remarks. Send


though.) Take a look at: - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_01_31 ...
to Peter Yim?  


slide#43 ( [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] / [[TillMossakowski|Till Mossakowski]] / [[OliverKutz|Oliver Kutz]] / JoanaHois), and -
[] we may want to let online participants know that they can suggest a BOF session for the end of


http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_09_10 ... the
day 2. They could send a design to organize one (title, organizers) to finin[at]umbc.edu


JohnBateman-TillMossakowski talk
[] Participants who are in Arlington Sunday evening and interested in joining up for a pre-symposium


[11:08] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: Glad to hear that, in CL, things like provenance that are currently in
dinner can meet at the lobby of the Westin Arlington Gateway (the conference hotel) at 7:00pm.


(non-machine-useful) annotations will likely be represented semantically, machine-readably, and
[9:37] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: I forgot to mention that I have to leave at 1:30pm EDT.


therefore presumably available for reasoning.
[9:40] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: ALL: please capture pertinent details into the chat-board for the record


[11:10] [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]]: (have to leave) if you have questions about [[RuleML]] I will respond later via
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the chat or you can send me an email. bye.  
[9:45] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: I'll sponsor donuts from costco for Tuesday afternoon.  


[11:10] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: @MichaelKifer: how would the example on MichaelGruninger's slide 10 be
[9:46] [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]: I can get bars and drinks for Monday afternoon


treated in Rulelog, i.e., in Hilog?
[9:49] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: Can you create a sheet that identifies each time period to sponsor, what is being


[11:16] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: In hilog, don't you have to explicitly state that the new relation is a hilog
provided, who the sponsor is, who is providing the food, and what is the cost.


relation?
[9:54] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Yes, we don't want to end up duplicating breakfast/afternoon snack material and


[11:10] [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]]: @Benjamin: I need to think about MichaelGruninger's slide 10.  
costs.  


[11:15] [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: @MichaelGruninger - do you know if the [[PrIKL]] project is still under development?
[9:55] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: It looks like there is a Costco in Pentagon City


http://prikl.sourceforge.net/
[9:56] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: What is being provided for breakfast?


[11:30] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @AliHashemi: I am not sure about the current status of [[PrIKL]]. We should
[9:58] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Here's the estimate from Amanda's (Tuesday) email:  


contact Fabian Neuhaus
>> For estimates: serving 66 people


[11:15] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Related to my question about a mapping between CL and RIF-FLD, perhaps the mapping
>> * breakfast-snack (w/ coffee-tea) - $1200 per day


between those should actually occur in [[OntoIOp]]?
>> * coffee-tea - $300 per serving (say day-1 morning, or Day-2 afternoon, etc.)


[11:23] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: @BenjaminGrosof, [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] -- this is important: the mapping itself
[9:58] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: What is the snack?


happens in a theory, and the original one need not inherit from it.  
[9:59] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: Starbucks delivers.  


[11:32] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: RIF-FLD is not a language. You would have to define a particular specialization
[9:59] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: I don't know the definition of "snack" here.  


before using [[OntoIOp]] to map it to CL.  
[10:01] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: I agree with Ram, have caterer supply coffee, we can get the rest.  


[11:30] [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: I'm unsure there is a fundamental disagreement. Theories can extend or interpret
[10:02] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: @MarkFox what is your email - I will send you the Caterer's specs


one another in a variety of ways. Being able to track and exploit conservative extensions leads to a
[10:02] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: msf[at]eil.utoronto.ca


lot of useful outcomes...  
[10:04] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: [re. Opening] We (Michael & I) still will supply a short couple of slides.  


[11:30] [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: (I guess I got lost as to where the disagreement is)
[10:05] [[ChristophLange|Christoph Lange]]: I will finish the Track B slides in the hours after this call.


[11:33] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: I agree Ali. I think the initial disagreement arose from a difference in the  
[10:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I will complete the slides for the Reuse hackathon today.


kind of uses people were thinking of; there seems to be agreement on the general point that you can
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usefully have nonconservative extension when you have the right kind of awareness / specification of
[10:07] [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]]: Hi All, sorry for being late


the (non)-inheritance relations between the original and extension-including theories.  
[10:09] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [action] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] to label all presentations that will be made remotely


[11:33] [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: @BenjaminGrosof and @MichaelKifer, I'm unsure what the position is re
[10:10] [[MarcelaVegetti|Marcela Vegetti]]: Hi! Sorry for my late join.


conservative extensions
[10:14] [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]: [ref. Peter's question to those who were here in previous years whether they


[11:33] [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]]: @TaraAthan: You are right. One needs to define a CL dialect as a
remember how many people were at the group dinner] I don't recall


specialization of FLD
[10:14] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @Peter can't remember re dinner numbers. We had at least a couple of tables


[11:34] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: @MichaelKifer - it would be an interesting exercise.  
upstairs at the Dogfish. Not sure it was as any as 25.  


[11:35] [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]: It seems useful that any system should be able to discriminate what type of
[10:27] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @MatthewWest, @MikeBennett, thanks anyway.


extensions or mappings two theories have to one another.  
[10:21] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [action] [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]] will make reservation for the group dinner on Day-1 ... and then


[11:36] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: @Ali- yes. The original CL semantics did not allow a choice. In the revision,
setup a doodle poll (which will be sent out to the [ontology-summit] list to get some feedback and estimates


there is a choice.
[10:22] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: Proposed Questions for Panelists:


[11:37] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: @Ali - yes, and that is essential to defining modules, imports,
* What are the biggest opportunities for applying ontologies to Semantic Web and Big Data problems?


interoperability, spindle structures, etc. But I think it is also true that it gets insufficient
* Is there any low-hanging fruit? If not, what additional work needs to be done by the Applied Ontology community?


attention (in that people do mapping without tending to it.
* Are there any key features/requirements of Semantic Web and Big Data applications which are being


[11:36] [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]]: @AlexShkotin: I guess, we agreed to disagree. Our position is that it we don't
ignored or downplayed by the Applied Ontology community?


think that the mappings should be conservative extensions, but, if necessary, the mappings can be
* What differences in priorities and perspectives are preventing more collaboration among the  


restricted to ensure that they are conservative.
Applied Ontology, Semantic Web, and Big Data communities?


[11:24] [[PaulTyson|Paul Tyson]]: Is it off-topic to ask who is using these languages (or another rule language) in
[10:17] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: [re. availability as a panelist] Can we confirm with CarolBean?


an industrial (not academic) application? Which language(s)? Why (or why not)? What for?
[10:24] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [action] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] will call [[CarolBean|Carol Bean]] about her availability on the day-2 panel


[11:31] [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]: @PaulTyson session 2013_12_19 was very interesting ... may be here
[10:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: [@TimFinin on the FIBO BOF] And yes FIBO is pronounced Fye'boh not Fee'boh.  


http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_12_19
[10:32] [[TimFinin|Tim Finin]]: fye'boh. Thanks!


[11:32] [[PaulTyson|Paul Tyson]]: @Alex thanks, I have not caught up on all the preceding sessions.
[10:32] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: Note about refreshment gaps: No afternoon coffee break is scheduled, and


[11:33] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Great session!
lunch is on the late side, so lack of sponsored afternoon refreshments is not so conspicuous.  


[11:33] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Join us again, same time, next Thursday, when we will be featuring the
[10:33] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [action] [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]] - when sending email to [[AngelaCarter|Angela Carter]] and [[FouadRamia|Fouad Ramia]] ref


[[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] Launch Event, on 16-Jan-2014 ... mark your calendars and watch out for further
wifi connections, please remind them we need two wired Internet connections too (ask if we would


announcements and developing details at:
need special credentials to access those ports on the table)


http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_16
[10:34] [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]: I have to go. See you all Monday.  


[11:33] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Thanks, all. Very good session!  
[10:34] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: see you then, Mark!  


[11:33] [[AmandaVizedom|Amanda Vizedom]]: Thanks all
[10:36] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [consensus] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] and [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] will be co-chairs for the day-2 panel


[11:37] [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]: C u:-)
[10:37] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: great session!


[11:34] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 11:32am PST --  
[10:37] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 10:33am PDT --  


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-- end of in-session chat-transcript --  


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Latest revision as of 06:48, 9 January 2016

Ontology Summit 2014 session-15: Final Symposium preparation and logistics - Thu 2014-04-24

  • Summit Theme: OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"
  • Session Topic: Final pre-symposium preparation and review
  • Session Co-chairs: Dr. RamSriram (NIST) & Professor TimFinin (UMBC)

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Abstract

OntologySummit2014 Session-15: "Final pre-symposium preparation and review" - materials

This is our 9th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors.

Since the beginnings of the Semantic Web, ontologies have played key roles in the design and deployment of new semantic technologies. Yet over the years, the level of collaboration between the Semantic Web and Applied Ontology communities has been much less than expected. Within Big Data applications, ontologies appear to have had little impact.

This year's Ontology Summit is an opportunity for building bridges between the Semantic Web, Linked Data, Big Data, and Applied Ontology communities. On the one hand, the Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Big Data communities can bring a wide array of real problems (such as performance and scalability challenges and the variety problem in Big Data) and technologies (automated reasoning tools) that can make use of ontologies. On the other hand, the Applied Ontology community can bring a large body of common reusable content (ontologies) and ontological analysis techniques. Identifying and overcoming ontology engineering bottlenecks is critical for all communities.

Ontology Summit 2014 will pose and address the primary challenges in these areas of interaction among the different communities. The Summit activities will bring together insights and methods from these different communities, synthesize new insights, and disseminate knowledge across field boundaries.

At the Launch Event on 16 Jan 2014, the organizing team has provided an overview of the program, and how we will be framing the discourse - namely, to pursue that along four different content tracks that address different aspects of the issue at hand.

In this 15th community session of the Summit, the last of the virtual sessions, we will do a final review on everything, and prepare ourselves for the OntologySummit2013_Symposium, the two-day face-to-face event hosted by the NCO_NITRD at NSF (Metropolitan Washington D.C., USA) on April 28 & 29 (i.e. next Monday and Tuesday) which this Summit will culminate in.

More details about this Ontology Summit is available at: OntologySummit2014 (homepage for this summit)

Agenda

OntologySummit2014 - Virtual Session-15

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
  • 1. Opening: OntologySummit2014_Symposium (co-chairs) - Ram D. Sriram & Tim Finin ... [ materials ]
  • 2. Review of symposium agenda and status of preparation - symposium co-chairs and all speakers
  • 3. Q & A and open discussion relating to the symposium (agenda, presentation prep, logistics, BOF sessions, ...) - All ... please refer to process above
  • 4. Q & A and open discussion relating to the any other pertinent issues (Communique, get togethers, ...) - All
  • 5. Status review / Follow-up actions - (co-chairs)
  • 6. Announcements / Wrap Up - (co-chairs)

Proceedings

Please refer to the above

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --


Chat transcript from room: summit_20140424

2014-04-24 GMT-08:00 [PDT]


[9:24] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

Ontology Summit 2014 session-15: Final Symposium preparation and logistics - Thu 2014-04-24

Summit Theme: Ontology Summit 2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"

Session Topic: Final pre-symposium preparation and review

Session Co-chairs: Dr. Ram D. Sriram (NIST) & Professor Tim Finin (UMBC)

AGENDA:

1. Opening: OntologySummit2014_Symposium (co-chairs) - Ram D. Sriram & Tim Finin

2. Review of symposium agenda and status of preparation - symposium co-chairs and all speakers

3. Q & A and open discussion relating to the symposium (agenda, presentation prep, logistics, BOF sessions, ...) - All

4. Q & A and open discussion relating to the any other pertinent issues (Communique, get togethers, ...) - All

5. Status review / Follow-up actions - (co-chairs)

6. Announcements / Wrap Up - (co-chairs)

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Attendees: Tim Finin (co-chair), Ram D. Sriram (co-chair), Amanda Vizedom, Andrea Westerinen, Christi Kapp,

Christoph Lange, Francesca Quattri, Ken Baclawski, Lamar Henderson, Leo Obrst, Marcela Vegetti, Mark Fox,

Matthew West, Michael Grüninger, Mike Bennett, Peter P. Yim (scribe), Sunday Ojo, Todd Schneider, Uri Shani

proceedings

[9:37] Peter P. Yim: == Tim Finin & Ram D. Sriram starts the session on behalf of the co-chairs ...

[9:33] Tim Finin: Some items for today...

[] We need to decide on the refreshments and get them ordered from the caterer (Geppetto) today. Who

will order (Angela Carter?). Maybe we should go with coffee for 85 people and snacks for 60 in the

morning. We need to see what money we have promised. I'm unsure how we arrange for the payments,

given the several sponsors.

[] We need to review what slides have been submitted and ping for those outstanding/

[] We should have someone identified to introduce each invited speaker and put their name on the

agenda.

[] we may want to note on the agenda which presentations will be done remotely, if only to avoid

confusion.

[] Let's go with The Front Page (4201 Wilson Boulevard) for the dinner. Someone needs to make an

initial reservation for 20-25 people at 6:30. Who will make reservation and by when (e.g., Friday?).

We should have a sign-up sheet or form onsite for people to use so we can note any change in the

number to convey to the restaurant.

[] we can use one or two more panelists. I guess I'll remove carol bean, so we only have four, even

with me. Need to get Mike Gruninger to send panelists the questions by Friday.

[] Ram and Tim may want to have at least one slide for the opening and for the closing remarks. Send

to Peter Yim?

[] we may want to let online participants know that they can suggest a BOF session for the end of

day 2. They could send a design to organize one (title, organizers) to finin[at]umbc.edu

[] Participants who are in Arlington Sunday evening and interested in joining up for a pre-symposium

dinner can meet at the lobby of the Westin Arlington Gateway (the conference hotel) at 7:00pm.

[9:37] Mark Fox: I forgot to mention that I have to leave at 1:30pm EDT.

[9:40] Peter P. Yim: ALL: please capture pertinent details into the chat-board for the record

[9:42] anonymous morphed into Lamar Henderson

[9:45] Mark Fox: I'll sponsor donuts from costco for Tuesday afternoon.

[9:46] Ram D. Sriram: I can get bars and drinks for Monday afternoon

[9:49] Mark Fox: Can you create a sheet that identifies each time period to sponsor, what is being

provided, who the sponsor is, who is providing the food, and what is the cost.

[9:54] Leo Obrst: Yes, we don't want to end up duplicating breakfast/afternoon snack material and

costs.

[9:55] Michael Grüninger: It looks like there is a Costco in Pentagon City

[9:56] Mark Fox: What is being provided for breakfast?

[9:58] Leo Obrst: Here's the estimate from Amanda's (Tuesday) email:

>> For estimates: serving 66 people

>> * breakfast-snack (w/ coffee-tea) - $1200 per day

>> * coffee-tea - $300 per serving (say day-1 morning, or Day-2 afternoon, etc.)

[9:58] Mark Fox: What is the snack?

[9:59] Mark Fox: Starbucks delivers.

[9:59] Leo Obrst: I don't know the definition of "snack" here.

[10:01] Mark Fox: I agree with Ram, have caterer supply coffee, we can get the rest.

[10:02] Amanda Vizedom: @MarkFox what is your email - I will send you the Caterer's specs

[10:02] Mark Fox: msf[at]eil.utoronto.ca

[10:04] Leo Obrst: [re. Opening] We (Michael & I) still will supply a short couple of slides.

[10:05] Christoph Lange: I will finish the Track B slides in the hours after this call.

[10:05] Mike Bennett: I will complete the slides for the Reuse hackathon today.

[10:07] anonymous morphed into Francesca Quattri

[10:07] Francesca Quattri: Hi All, sorry for being late

[10:09] Peter P. Yim: [action] Peter P. Yim to label all presentations that will be made remotely

[10:10] Marcela Vegetti: Hi! Sorry for my late join.

[10:14] Matthew West: [ref. Peter's question to those who were here in previous years whether they

remember how many people were at the group dinner] I don't recall

[10:14] Mike Bennett: @Peter can't remember re dinner numbers. We had at least a couple of tables

upstairs at the Dogfish. Not sure it was as any as 25.

[10:27] Peter P. Yim: @MatthewWest, @MikeBennett, thanks anyway.

[10:21] Peter P. Yim: [action] Tim Finin will make reservation for the group dinner on Day-1 ... and then

setup a doodle poll (which will be sent out to the [ontology-summit] list to get some feedback and estimates

[10:22] Michael Grüninger: Proposed Questions for Panelists:

  • What are the biggest opportunities for applying ontologies to Semantic Web and Big Data problems?
  • Is there any low-hanging fruit? If not, what additional work needs to be done by the Applied Ontology community?
  • Are there any key features/requirements of Semantic Web and Big Data applications which are being

ignored or downplayed by the Applied Ontology community?

  • What differences in priorities and perspectives are preventing more collaboration among the

Applied Ontology, Semantic Web, and Big Data communities?

[10:17] Leo Obrst: [re. availability as a panelist] Can we confirm with CarolBean?

[10:24] Peter P. Yim: [action] Michael Grüninger will call Carol Bean about her availability on the day-2 panel

[10:29] Mike Bennett: [@TimFinin on the FIBO BOF] And yes FIBO is pronounced Fye'boh not Fee'boh.

[10:32] Tim Finin: fye'boh. Thanks!

[10:32] Amanda Vizedom: Note about refreshment gaps: No afternoon coffee break is scheduled, and

lunch is on the late side, so lack of sponsored afternoon refreshments is not so conspicuous.

[10:33] Peter P. Yim: [action] Ram D. Sriram - when sending email to Angela Carter and Fouad Ramia ref

wifi connections, please remind them we need two wired Internet connections too (ask if we would

need special credentials to access those ports on the table)

[10:34] Mark Fox: I have to go. See you all Monday.

[10:34] Peter P. Yim: see you then, Mark!

[10:36] Peter P. Yim: [consensus] Michael Grüninger and Leo Obrst will be co-chairs for the day-2 panel

[10:37] Peter P. Yim: great session!

[10:37] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 10:33am PDT --

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --

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