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= [[ONTOLOG]] Community Program Planning Session - Thu 2013-09-12  =
''Placeholder for ...''


Session Co-chairs: '''PeterYim''' ([[ONTOLOG]]; CIM3) & '''MichaelGruninger''' ([[IAOA]]; U of Toronto)
'''2013_10_03 - Thursday: No community event  ... the originally planned: Joint IAOA-ONTOLOG Session: "Brainstorming for an Ontology textbook" has been cancelled, and is being re-scheduled!   '''  


Topic: '''Scheduling [[ONTOLOG]] Events for the Rest of 2013'''  
... ''(details coming!)''  


==[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Event-Planning_Q4-2013/ Archives]==
[[Category:Event_Meeting]]
 
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|Abstract]]'''
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|Agenda]]'''
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Event-Planning_Q4-2013/Ontolog-Event-Planning_Q4-2013--PeterYim-MichaelGruninger_20130912.pdf Opening slides]'''
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|transcript of the online chat]]''' during the session
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Event-Planning_Q4-2013/Ontolog-planning_20130912b.mp3 Audio recording of the session]''' ... [ 1:19:32 ; mp3 ; 9.1 MB ]
** its best that you listen to the session while having the respective presentations (linked above) opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|Additional Resources]]'''
 
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===
 
* Date: '''Thursday, 12-Sep-2013'''
* Start Time: 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 7:30pm CEST / 6:30pm BST / 1730 UTC
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=12&year=2013&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]
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* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_12
 
* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].
 
== Attendees  ==
 
* Attended:
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]] (co-chair)
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (co-chair)
** [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]
** [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]]
** [[GaryBergCross]]
** [[BillMcCarthy]]
** [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
** [[HensonGraves|Henson Graves]] (traveling; may have logistics issues)
** [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]
** [[ElieAbiLahoud]] (may have logistics issues)
** [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]]
** [[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]]
** [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]]
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** [[SimonSpero|Simon Spero]]
** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]
** [[ThomasGetgood|Thomas Getgood]]
** [[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]]
** ...
 
* Expecting:
** [[FrancescaQuattri|Francesca Quattri]] (1.30 am here, will try to join)
** ''please add yourself to the list if you are a member of the [[WikiHomePage|Ontolog]] community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with your affiliation.''
 
* Regrets:
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[JohnSowa|John F. Sowa]]
** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]] (joining late)
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
** [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]]
** [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]
** [[ChristopherSpottiswoode|Christopher Spottiswoode]]
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]
** [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] (have conflict; will join late if I can)
** ...
 
== Abstract  ==
 
This session is a culmination of the community input received during the following recent community planning sessions:
 
* 2013_07_18 - [[OntologyBasedStandards]] mini-series - community brainstorm and program planning session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_07_18
* 2013_07_25 - "Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]])" mini-series planning - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_07_25
* 2013_09_03 - OOR Project Team event planning session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_03
* 2013_05_23 - Thursday: [[OntologySummit2013|Ontology Summit 2013]]: review and follow-up action planning ("postmortem") session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_05_23
 
From the above input, a strawman program of [[ONTOLOG]] events for the rest of 2013 has been crafted; and it looks something like the following. This will provide a starting point for our deliberation during the session. We will also take the opportunity to get community input on potential panelists for each of these panel sessions.
 
'''''see developing Master Event Calendar at: MeetingsCalls'''''
 
* 2013_12_26 - Thursday: No community event ... Happy Holidays!    (3TZF)
* 2013_12_19 - Thursday: [[RulesReasoningLP]] - session 4 - R4. Guide to Reasoning Applications Development and Cases [HensonGraves, KenBaclawski?]  (3TZG)
* 2013_12_12 - Thursday: [[OntologyBasedStandards]] - session 7 - S7. How ontologies can help with the formal specification of the standards in natural language standards [SimonSpero, RichardMartin?, MarkJohnson?, KenBaclawski]  (3TZH)
* 2013_12_06 - Friday: First [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] Organizing Committee meeting
* 2013_12_05 - Thursday: [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] (Pre-Launch) Community Brainstorm Session    (3TZI)
 
* 2013_11_28 - Thursday: No community event ... Thanksgiving Holiday in the US! (3TZB)
* 2013_11_21 - Thursday: [[RulesReasoningLP]] - session 3 - R3. Rule Standards: Common Logic, [[RuleML]], and RIF [HaroldBoley, [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]],  MikeDean?] (3TZC)
* 2013_11_14 - Thursday: No community event ... STIDS 2013 in session this week    (3TZD)
* ... [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] co-organizer meeting to be held around this time
* 2013_11_07 - Thursday: [[OntologyBasedStandards]] - session 6 - S4. Ontology-based Financial Standards [MikeBennett, [[BillMcCarthy]], [[ElieAbiLahoud]]]    (3TZE)
 
* 2013_10_31 - Thursday: [[RulesReasoningLP]] - session 2 - R2. Concepts and Foundations of Logic Programming and Semantic Web Programming [LeoObrst, PascalHitzler?]  (3TZ6)
* 2013_10_24 - Thursday: [[RulesReasoningLP]] - session 1 - R1. Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]]): Survey and Introduction [LeoObrst, BenjaminGrosof]  (3TZ7)
* 2013_10_17 - Thursday: [[OntologyBasedStandards]] - session 5 - S2. Ontology-based Standards in Geospatial Domains [[[GaryBergCross]], TaraAthan]  (3TZ8)
* 2013_10_10 - Thursday: [[OntologyBasedStandards]] - session 4 - S1. Ontology-based Standards in the area of Quantities and Units of Measure  (3TZ9)
* 2013_10_08 - Tuesday: OOR Development Session: "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories" - Co-chairs: [[TillMossakowski|Till Mossakowski]] & [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_10_08]]    (3X95)
* 2013_10_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-ONTOLOG Session: "Brainstorming for an Ontology textbook" - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - ConferenceCall_2013_10_03    (3TZA)
* 2013_10_01 - Tuesday: OOR Project Team Member (regular planning & admin) Conference Call - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_10_01]]    (3X8X)
 
* 2013_09_26 - Thursday: No community event    (3T8Z)
* 2013_09_19 - Thursday: [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] Topic Brainstorm Session - Co-chairs: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] - ConferenceCall_2013_09_19    (3T90)
* 2013_09_17 - Tuesday: [[OOR]]: "Developing a Common UI Across Disparate OOR Instances" - Chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - with opening brief from [[DanielCoutoVale]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_09_17]]    (3X8Y)
* 2013_09_12 - Thursday: ONTOLOG Community Planning Session: Event Scheduling for the Rest of 2013 - Co-chairs: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - ConferenceCall_2013_09_12    ''(this session)''
 
We will aim at defining the events, fitting the above into the rest our Ontolog 2013 event calendar, and postponing some sessions till after OntologySummit2014. Hopefully, by the end of this session, we would have confirmed the content and champions for each of the virtual panel sessions (between now and end-Dec 2013), in a way that will give the community a strong and coherent program of events. We will also take the opportunity to get community input on potential panelists for each of these panel sessions, as recommendations to the session chairs.
 
== Agenda  ==
 
'''Community Event Planning: Scheduling [[ONTOLOG]] Events for the Rest of 2013'''
 
:''Session Format:'' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
 
* 1. Overview: introducing the strawman program (co-chairs) - [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (20 min.) ... [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Event-Planning_Q4-2013/Ontolog-Event-Planning_Q4-2013--PeterYim-MichaelGruninger_20130912.pdf intro slides]
 
* 2. Open discussion-I: Scheduling the [[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|[[OntologyBasedStandards]]] sessions] - ALL (30 min.) ... (refer to [[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|process above]])
** pick 4 sessions this year; the other 4 next year (after the OntologySummit); assign session dates
** confirming session co-chairs, content, topics and candidate panelists
 
* 3. Open discussion-II: Scheduling the [[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|[[RulesReasoningLP]]] sessions] - ALL (30 min.)
** confirming session co-chairs and session dates
** discuss topics, content and candidate panelists
 
* 4. Open discussion-III: review of overall Q4-2013 ONTOLOG Program: additional community input and ideas - ALL (20 min.)
 
* 5. Recap Actions, Summary & Wrap-up - co-chairs: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (10 min.)
 
== Proceedings  ==
 
Please refer to the [[ConferenceCall_2013_09_12|above]]
 
From today's discussion, our program will be like ...
 
* Sessions 4, 5 6 & 7 for the [[OntologyBasedStandards]] initiative will come out of [[ConferenceCall_2013_07_18|those discussed on Jul-18]], namely
** S1. Ontology-based Standards in the area of Quantities and Units of Measure
*** co-chairs: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]
*** content to be covered: intro to real world Qty & [[UoM]]; intro to QUDT; real (domain) user needs, expectations and requirements
*** candidate panelists:
**** briefings from: someone from NIST Physics Lab, [[RalphHodgson|Ralph Hodgson]] on QUDT,
**** user perspectives: Biomedical Healthcare / [[ChrisChute|Chris Chute]], [[StanHuff|Stan Huff]] or [[HaroldSolbrig|Harold Solbrig]]; FIBO / [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]; potential user from manufacturing domain / RamSriram? - pls suggest; ISO-15926 gang (PLCS,...) / [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]], [[HowardMason|Howard Mason]] or [[SeanBarker|Sean Barker]]; Italian Telecom / DOLCE's (Guarino's) clients/users; Building Information / [[DeborahMacPherson]] or [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]] or [[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]]; Smart Grid / [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] - pls suggest; ...
**** QUOMOS developer discussant: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[EdBarkmeyer|Ed Barkmeyer]],
*** session date: Thu 2013.10.10 - session-4
** S2. Ontology-based Standards in Geospatial Domains [TaraAthan, [[GaryBergCross]]]
*** co-chairs: [[GaryBergCross]] & [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: Thu 2013.10.17 - session-5
** S3. Ontology-based Standards in Manufacturing [BobYoung, [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]], RichardMartin]
*** co-chairs:
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: MG: after [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]]
** S4. Ontology-based Financial Standards (e.g. ISO 15944, FIBO) [MikeBennett, [[BillMcCarthy]], [[ElieAbiLahoud]]]
*** co-chairs:
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: Thu 2013.11.07 - session-6
** S5. Standards and Ontology Metadata [ElisaKendall, TerryLongstreth]
*** co-chairs:
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: MG: after [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]] (by default)
** S6. Ontologies for Social Networks [KenBaclawski, EricChan]
*** co-chairs:
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: KB: after [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]]
** S7. How ontologies can help with the formal specification of the natural language standards [SimonSpero, [[RichardMartin|Richard Martin]], [[MarkJohnson|Mark Johnson]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], AdamWyner?]
*** co-chairs:
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: Thu 2013.12.12 - session-7
** S8. Synthesis and harmonization of the ontologies and standards presented in the miniseries [???]
*** co-chairs:
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: MG: after [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]]
 
* Session 1, 2, 3 & 4 for the "Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]])" mini-series could be (ref. [[ConferenceCall_2013_07_25|2013.07.25 discussion]], tweaked):
** R1. [[RulesReasoningLP]]: Survey and Introduction [LeoObrst, BenjaminGrosof]
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists:
*** session date: Thu 2013.10.24
** R2. Concepts and Foundations of Logic Programming and Semantic Web Programming [LeoObrst, PascalHitzler]
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists: [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]], [[IanHorrocks|Ian Horrocks]], [[BijanParsia|Bijan Parsia]], Hassan Ait-Kaci, PaulTarau, ...
*** session date: Thu 2013.10.31
** R3. Rule Standards: Common Logic, [[RuleML]], and RIF [HaroldBoley, [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]], MikeDean]
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists: [[JohnSowa|John F. Sowa]], [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]], [[MichaelKifer|Michael Kifer]], [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]], [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]], [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]], ... maybe: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]], [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]], [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]
*** session date: Thu 2013.11.21
** R4. Guide to Reasoning Applications Development and Cases [HensonGraves, KenBaclawski]
*** content to be covered:
*** candidate panelists: [[JansAasman|Jans Aasman]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[ArunMajumdar|Arun Majumdar]], [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[HolgerKnublauch|Holger Knublauch]], ...
*** session date: Thu 2013.12.19
** R5 onward - ideas and suggestions for the program after [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]]
*** ...
 
=== IM Chat Transcript captured during the session  ===
 
see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Event-Planning_Q4-2013/chat-transcript_unedited_20130912a.txt here].
 
(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Event-Planning_Q4-2013/chat-transcript_edited_20130912b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)
 
Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.
 
-- begin in-session chat-transcript --
 
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Chat transcript from room: ontolog_20130912
 
2013-09-12 GMT-08:00 [PDT]
 
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[10:15] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the
 
''' ONTOLOG Community Program Planning Session - Thu 2013-09-12 '''
 
Session Co-chairs: Mr. [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]
 
Topic: Scheduling ONTOLOG Events for the Rest of 2013
 
Logistics:
 
* Refer to details on session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_12
 
* (if you haven't already done so) please click on "settings" (top center)
 
and morph from "anonymous" to your Real Name (in WikiWord format)
 
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* Can't find Skype Dial pad?
 
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or the earlier Skype versions 2.x,) if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window
 
you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it.
 
(Chat-room) Attendees: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (co-chair), [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (co-chair), [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]], [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]],
 
[[AliHashemi|Ali Hashemi]], [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]], [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]], [[ElieAbiLahoud]], [[GaryBergCross]], [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]],
 
[[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[SimonSpero|Simon Spero]], [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]], [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]], [[ThomasGetgood|Thomas Getgood]]
 
''' Proceedings '''
 
[10:29] anonymous morphed into [[SimonSpero|Simon Spero]]
 
[10:30] anonymous morphed into [[ElieAbiLahoud]]
 
[10:30] anonymous morphed into [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]]
 
[10:31] [[SimonSpero|Simon Spero]]: Over optimistic recruiters:
 
http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?psa=1&Job_DID=JHT5R56SVJBMBB2CQ8T&sc_extcmp=JS_JobAlert_Title&ipath=PSSKG02U
 
[10:31] anonymous morphed into [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]
 
[10:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I can only stay for the first half hour I'm afraid.
 
[10:35] anonymous morphed into [[GaryBergCross]]
 
[10:35] anonymous morphed into [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]
 
[10:40] anonymous morphed into [[AnatolyLevenchuk|Anatoly Levenchuk]]
 
[10:35] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] starts session by providing an overview - see intro
 
slides at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_12#nid3XCQ
 
[10:38] [[GaryBergCross]]: DC is in the midst of a storm so I may lose power and thus internet...
 
[10:41] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_12#nid3X9K
 
[10:47] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: Correction: There's a typo in the calendar: it should be Thur. 12/19 not
 
Thur. 12/17. [Thanks, Benjamin ... now corrected. --ppy]
 
[10:39] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt schedule for the [[RulesReasoningLP]] etc. miniseries: 10/17 I have a
 
probable conflict.
 
[10:41] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: Suggestion: therefore, how about we swap the topics of the 10/24 and 10/17
 
sessions? I.e., do [[RulesReasoningLP]] Session 1 on 10/24?
 
[10:54] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [consensus] we will swap the 10/17 and 10/24 dates - so: we will now have:
 
//
 
2013_10_24 - Thursday: [[RulesReasoningLP]] - session 1
 
2013_10_17 - Thursday: [[OntologyBasedStandards]] - session 4
 
//
 
[10:49] anonymous morphed into [[LamarHenderson|Lamar Henderson]]
 
[11:00] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: Potential date for S2. Ontology-based Standards in Geospatial Domains
 
[TaraAthan, [[GaryBergCross]]] - October 17
 
[10:58] [[ElieAbiLahoud]]: @ Peter, 2013_10_17 - Thursday: [[OntologyBasedStandards]] - session 4 or session 1 ?
 
[10:59] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Elie - it's "session 4" - as 3 prior sessions on this mini-series has already
 
been rolled out - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologyBasedStandards#nid3GIP
 
[11:03] anonymous morphed into [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]
 
[11:04] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @MikeBennett: we can't hear you
 
[11:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I've had to drop off for another call.
 
[11:05] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @MikeBennett: ok, we'll come back to you in 5 minutes?
 
[11:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Will remain lurking here on the chat, but not on the audio - apologies.
 
[11:08] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We are pretty flexible I think. Will have to co-ordinate with [[BillMcCarthy]]
 
also. I have a holiday penciled in for week of 24th but otherwise I'm OK.
 
[11:07] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: ref TaraAthan's question - the standard start-time for the Thursday sessions are
 
12:30pm EDT and it will last 1.5~2.0 hours (generally 2-Hours when we have a panel session with
 
multiple panelists)
 
[11:08] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] / [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: S6. Ontologies for Social Networks [KenBaclawski, EricChan]
 
- propose to move to next year (after Ontology Summit)
 
[11:09] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: I'd be very interested in this topic. Please put me on the list for this: S7. How
 
ontologies can help with the formal specification of the natural language standards
 
[11:09] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: There is a lot going on in NL and ontologies.
 
[11:10] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: Also Lemon.
 
[11:10] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: There could be some clarification of what this subject means.
 
[11:07] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @MikeBennett: do you have a preferred date for your session? - S4.
 
Ontology-based Financial Standards (e.g. ISO 15944, FIBO) [MikeBennett, [[BillMcCarthy]], [[ElieAbiLahoud]]]
 
[11:10] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @MikeBennett: make a random choice between November 7 and December 12 :-)
 
[11:11] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @Elie do you have a preference between those dates, as you're also on the hook
 
for this one?
 
[11:13] [[ElieAbiLahoud]]: I suggest Nov-28 or Dec-5, what do you think ?
 
[11:15] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @[[ElieAbiLahoud]]: those dates are already allocated. For your session, we
 
need to decide between November 7 and December 12
 
[11:16] [[ElieAbiLahoud]]: @Michael, misunderstood the meaning of "between" - Semantics!
 
[11:15] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Dec 12 is less ideal for me.
 
[11:16] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: Ok, let's go with November 7 for S4 (Ontology-based Financial Standards)
 
[11:16] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: Mention of the ACE OWL-NL input and output tool as being useful. I'd be
 
interested if there has been progress with this tool. Last time I used it, the output from an
 
ontology to NL was rather suspect. But, the intention is in the right direction.
 
[11:16] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: [[BillMcCarthy]] votes for Dec 12 (via email). So let's go with that and I'll make it work.
 
[11:16] [[ElieAbiLahoud]]: @MikeBennett, I have no preference then, I'll adapt
 
[11:19] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @MikeBennett, [[BillMcCarthy]] & [[ElieAbiLahoud]] - we already have something scheduled
 
for Dec-12 - the S7 (S7. How ontologies can help with the formal specification of the natural
 
language standards) team just reserved that date - does Nov-7 work for you guys?
 
[11:20] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Nov 7 works for me, checking again with Bill now (he had voted for 12th).
 
[11:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: [[BillMcCarthy]] can do Nov 7 as well - so I can confirm we are all 3 on track for
 
the Nov 7 session.
 
[11:17] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: Mention of some of the literature on ACE for NL to FOL representations, e.g.
 
health rules and policy.
 
[11:17] [[SimonSpero|Simon Spero]]: Adam: ERGO (med) : http://gem.med.yale.edu/ergo/
 
[11:17] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: @Adam - where do standards come in, in the case of ACE, for example?
 
[11:21] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: @Simon. Thanks. I know that paper. I did something similar for regulations.
 
Reading the details, there are significant issues to resolve in using ACE (and I'm very pro ACE).
 
[11:21] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: @Tara - I'm not clear what the phrase "How ontologies can help with the formal
 
specification of the natural language standards" means, so would appreciate the authors of the
 
phrase to clarify.
 
[11:26] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: @Adam - Standards are nearly always specified using a document written in a
 
natural language. The term "natural language standard" in this context means "standard whose
 
definitive document is written in natural language".
 
[11:34] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: @Ken - OK. That interpretation. That is different from 'standards of natural
 
language', which seems to me another reading, but not the desired one.
 
[11:20] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt NL session: I too am very interested, and this is related to
 
[[RulesReasoningLP]] area.
 
[11:21] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt financial-area session: I too am very interested, and this is related to
 
FIBO's rules area which I co-lead.
 
[11:22] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: The session dates we're talking about work for me for NL (12/12 - good) and
 
financial-area (11/17 - OK).
 
[11:23] anonymous morphed into [[ThomasGetgood|Thomas Getgood]]
 
[11:24] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: The NL date of 12/12 does not work for me. Conference 12/11-13.
 
[11:26] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] moderating Open discussion-II: Scheduling the [[RulesReasoningLP]] sessions
 
[11:26] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_12#nid3XF2
 
[11:35] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]] / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: a lot of the background/tutorial material can be
 
recorded offline and made available (hosted in the Ontolog archives) as "mandatory" reading for the
 
session participants
 
[11:39] [[TaraAthan|Tara Athan]]: @Benjamin - that sounds fine to me.
 
[11:39] [[HaroldBoley|Harold Boley]]: With input from [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] and all, [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] and I could help organizing R3.
 
Common Logic, [[RuleML]] and RIF.
 
[11:39] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: Suggestion: [[RulesReasoningLP]] session 1 title/description: I would add ",
 
including Concepts and Foundations of Rulelog, Logic Programming and Semantic Web Rules". ...
 
[response - [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: the original title actually expands to "Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming
 
for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]]): Survey and Introduction" and the session is
 
intended to lay out the scope for the entire mini-series, survey the technology landscape, and cite
 
use cases and applications to motivate the sessions that will follow (as
 
[[ConferenceCall_2013_07_25|you suggested]]) - maybe
 
you and Leo can deliberate on the final title when you two planning out the session in detail. ...
 
Note also, that we have had presentations on Common Logic and Rulelog in the Ontolog archives
 
already.]
 
[11:40] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: I would be glad to help with organizing [[RulesReasoningLP]] sessions R2-R4 as
 
well as with session R1.
 
[11:40] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: [[AdrianPaschke|Adrian Paschke]] would be good as a co-lead for R3. Mike Dean is out on medical
 
work leave currently.
 
[11:41] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: A good R5 (or R6) session would be on Natural Language (NL).
 
[11:43] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt R3: Tara would indeed be a good panelist.
 
[11:44] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt R1: I think it makes most sense for me to speak at R1, hence maybe not
 
be a chair of the session esp. while presenting.
 
[11:45] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt R1 scope: cover use cases and tools as well as concepts and foundations.
 
[11:46] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt R2: [[PascalHitzler|Pascal Hitzler]] would be good to ask as a panelist. I'm not sure he's
 
up for being a co-chair but we can see.
 
[11:49] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Leo should contact Pascal to confirm his availability
 
[11:50] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt R1: Henson Graves also feels that we should present use cases - incl. as
 
challenges as yet not satisfactorily solved as well as past ones already "done".
 
[11:51] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [[HensonGraves|Henson Graves]] and [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] need to touch base offline some time soon too (since
 
we weren't able to get a mutual consent from both of them here.)
 
[11:52] [[GaryBergCross]]: Have to drop off call now but will check email for any updates.
 
[11:42] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [[HensonGraves|Henson Graves]] - request that we have a dedicated mailing list for [[RulesReasoningLP]]
 
[11:53] [[BenjaminGrosof|Benjamin Grosof]]: wrt R1-R4: little plan for action items is the ff. Peter, please create
 
mailing list of people, send that out to Benjamin G, Henson G, Harold B, then we'll take it from
 
there to coordinate with Leo and the other proposed session chairs/panelists.
 
[11:54] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [action] Peter will create the new mailing list and auto-subscribe those who were
 
at the 7/25 brainstorm ... and invite those who we will potentially engage as panelists
 
[11:58] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: join us again, next Thursday Sep-19, for the [[OntologySummit2014|Ontology Summit 2014]] Topic Brainstorm
 
session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_19 - note that the session
 
will start early (see details on session page)
 
[11:59] [[AdamWyner|Adam Wyner]]: Thanks bye.
 
[11:59] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: great session - we accomplished practically everything we meant to get done at
 
this session!
 
[11:59] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 11:58am PDT --
 
-- end of in-session chat-transcript --
 
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== Additional Resources  ==
 
* The '''[[OntologyBasedStandards]]''' Initiative homepage - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologyBasedStandards
** 2013_07_18 - [[OntologyBasedStandards]] mini-series - community brainstorm and program planning session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_07_18
* The "'''Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]])'''" mini-series homepage - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RulesReasoningLP
** 2013_07_25 - "Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications ([[RulesReasoningLP]])" mini-series planning - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_07_25
* The '''[[OpenOntologyRepository]] ([http://oor.net OOR])''' Initiative homepage - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository
** 2013_09_03 - [[OOR]] Project Team event planning session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_09_03
* The '''OntologySummit''' program series homepage - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit
** 2013_05_23 - Thursday: [[OntologySummit2013|Ontology Summit 2013]]: review and follow-up action planning ("postmortem") session - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2013_05_23
* 2013_06_13 - Thursday: ONTOLOG Community Event Planning session - Co-chairs: [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] - ConferenceCall_2013_06_13
 
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