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* Summit Theme: '''[[OntologySummit2015]]: Internet of Things: Toward Smart Networked Systems and Societies'''
'''IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG'''


* Session Topic: '''[[OntologySummit2015]] Post-Mortem'''
Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times.


* Session Co-chairs: [[MarkUnderwood]] and [[MichaelGruninger]]
[[ConnectionDetails]]


Program:
This week we will focus on actions for an issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology. 


* '''[[ConferenceCall_2015_05_28|Abstract]]'''
== Agenda ==
* '''[[ConferenceCall_2015_05_28|Agenda]]'''
* '''Resources'''
** [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2015/2015-05-28_Postmortem/Postmortem_MichaelGruninger_2015-05-28.pdf Michael Grüninger]
** [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2015/2015-05-28_Postmortem/Postmortem_OntologySummit2015_Audio_2015-05-28.mp3 Audio Recording]


== Abstract ==


The [[OntologySummit|Ontology Summit]] is an annual series of events (first started by Ontolog and NIST in 2006) that involves the ontology community and communities related to each year's theme chosen for the summit. The Ontology Summit program is now co-organized by Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA, NCO_NITRD along with the co-sponsorship of other organizations that are supportive of the Summit goals and objectives.
* Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
** Status update - we now have the details on parameter, expectations etc.
** Review response to question about co-ordinating with the current Special Edition
** Next actions


We are witnessing a new revolution in computing and communication. The Internet, which has spanned several networks in a wide variety of domains, is having a significant impact on every aspect of our lives. The next generation of networks will utilize a wide variety of resources with significant sensing capabilities. Such networks will extend beyond physically linked computers to include multimodal information from biological, cognitive, semantic, and social networks. This paradigm shift will involve symbiotic networks of people, intelligent devices, and mobile personal computing and communication devices (mPCDs), which will form net-centric societies or smart networked systems and societies (SNSS). mPCDs are already equipped with a myriad of sensors, with regular updates of additional sensing capabilities. Additionally, we are witnessing the emergence of "intelligent devices," such as smart meters, smart cars, etc., with considerable sensing and networking capabilities. Hence, these devices -- and the network -- will be constantly sensing, monitoring, and interpreting the environment -- this is sometimes referred to as the Internet of Things. And as local and wide area networks became almost secondary to the WWW (World-Wide Web), users and their usage patterns will become increasingly visible. This will have significant implications for both the market for advanced computing and communication infrastructure and the future markets for nearly 4.5 billion people -- that net-centric societies will create.
* Housekeeping
** Any changes / updates?


Well-designed and constructed net-centric societies will result in better quality of life, reduced threat from external sources, and improved commerce. For example, assume a scenario where people at various locations suffer from flu-like symptoms. In a net-centric society, mPCDs will send vital signs and other associated information to appropriate laboratories and medical centers. These centers will analyze the information, including searching the Internet for potential solutions, and will aid in determining possible causes for this phenomenon. Based on the diagnosis, people will be directed to the nearest clinic for treatment. Here we have several types of information flowing through the net: data from mPCDs; location information; images; video; audio; etc.
* Other Ideas
** Progress on 'Stack Overflow' type of resource
** More general ideas for information resource on applied ontology and Semantic Web principles
** Use of the Blog


Ontologies will play a significant role in the realization of SNSS. For example, a considerable amount of data passes through the network and should be converted into higher abstractions that can be used in appropriate reasoning. This requires the development of standard terminologies which capture objects and events. Creating and testing such terminologies will aid in effective recognition and reaction in a network-centric situation awareness environment. This would involve identifying a methodology for development of terminologies for multimodal data (or ontologies), developing appropriate ontologies, developing testing methods for these ontologies, demonstrating interoperability for selected domains (e.g., healthcare, situational awareness), and using these ontologies in decision making.
* AOB


In today's session, we will take inventory of the transpired in  [[OntologySummit2015]]. We will discuss the problems that we encountered (both technical and logistical) and identify ways of improving the Summit. We will also discuss potential topics for next year's Summit.
* Next Meeting


== Agenda  ==
== Proceedings ==
 
List of attendees: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]],
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Apologies: Leo Obrst, Naicong Li
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Agenda
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 1. Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
 
Status update - we now have the details on parameter, expectations etc.
 
Review response to question about co-ordinating with the current Special Edition
 
Next actions
 
 
2. Housekeeping
 
Any changes / updates?
 
 
3. Other Ideas
 
Progress on 'Stack Overflow' type of resource
 
More general ideas for information resource on applied ontology and Semantic Web principles
 
Use of the Blog
 
 
4. AOB
 
 
5. Next Meeting
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Apologies: Elie Abi-Lahoud
 
anonymous morphed into [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: MArk's reply to Leo:
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I dont see this as a problem at all, Leo.  The 10th anniversary call for papers was for review articles and position papers, not for research papers.  Im really glad youre doing this; AO does not get enough submissions related to the Semantic Web.  Thanks for drumming up business.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Timings
 
Avoid
 
Submission date July 15 (this is the date for the Anniversary Edition)
 
Submission
 
Position papers: 3 months
 
Longer papers: 6 months
 
(We would also try to solicit position papers directly from Summit 2014 participants)
 
Assigning Reviews
 
2 weeks
 
Reviews
 
1 month
 
  = Total from submission deadline to Yes/No/Yes with comments
 
6 weeks
 
Rework by Authors
 
1 month
 
Final Decision
 
10 weeks after Deadline
 
(more if July / August are part of these cycles)
 
 
Example Timeline
 
Call goes out: Early June


* 1. Summary of Ontology Summit 2015 (Summit Co-Chairs)
Submission Deadline: 6 months = Early December (seems a bit long!)


* 2. Summary of the Symposium (Symposium Co-Chair)
Or


* 3. Open Discussion
Submission Deadline: 3 months = 01 September
** What went well?
** What can be improved?
** Follow-up activities


* 4. Brainstorming on future Ontology Summit themes
Notification to Authors: 15 October


== Proceedings ==
Camera-ready Due: 15 November
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 4 Months
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Submission Deadline: 4 months = 01 October
 
Notification to Authors: 15 November
 
Camera-ready Due: 15 December
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Consensus: We will do this.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Can make Camera ready date later in Dec - have everything wrapped up by end of December.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: When are the issues?
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: BUT this is the dealdine for position papers (01 Otc) not 15 July, for the 10th Anniversary issue
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: StatusLast issue (10:1) online on 20 May 2015Next issue10:2 scheduled for July 2015
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Therefore 10:40 would be Jan or Feb 2016
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 6 months is more reasonable for a journal, compared to conference.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We do want to encourage research papers.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Submission Deadline: 6 months = 01 December
 
Notification to Authors: 15 January (or later if we add time for New Year?)
 
Camera-ready Due: 15 February
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: http://www.iospress.nl/journal/applied-ontology/
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: http://www.iossubmissions.com/applied-ontology/10thAnniversary
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: If we aim for after the Annivefsary Issue (assuming that is the 4th of 4 in 2015/16) then we would aim oto hit Vol 11 Issue 1 (May 2016?)
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The issue before the Special Editioin would be Vol 10 Issue 3.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We still need to know the dates of the upcoming issues, and their corresponding camera-ready dates.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Goal is to get as many good papers as possible so a longer lead time would facilitate that.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Decision is to go with a 6 month submission deadline, counting from mid June.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: That gives us a couple of weeks to get out the call.
 
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Call for Papers
 
IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology Special Issue on the Role of Ontologies in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications.
 
 
The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers (minimum of xx pages) discussing the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of practical, methodological and research-oriented papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas, with a focus on content-specific integration and modelling issues. Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:
 
The role that ontologies play (or can play) in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications
 
Engineering of ontologies to address integration and domain-specific modeling issues
 
Sharing and reuse of ontologies within and across application or domain areas
 
Automation and tooling in support of ontology development
 
 
Papers should be formatted and submitted according to the guidelines of the IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology [www.iaoa.org]. The guidelines are found under the tab, "Manuscript submissions & Author instructions".
 
________________________________________
 
 
Important dates


[12:30] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Welcome to the Ontology Summit 2015 Postmortem session
15 December, 2015: Submission Deadline


[12:31] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Agenda:
15 February, 2016: Notification to Authors
* Summary of Ontology Summit 2015 (Summit Co-Chairs)   
* Summary of the Symposium (Symposium Co-Chair)   
* Open Discussion   
** What went well?   
** What can be improved?   
** Follow-up activities   
* Brainstorming on future Ontology Summit themes


[12:40] Mark Underwood: John, do you have any artifacts on alarm fatigue? I am proposing some work in pharmacy related to that.
15 March, 2016: Camera-ready Due


[12:40] JohnHMorris: Hello
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Is this a wrap?


[12:41] JohnHMorris: OK let me see . . .
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Yes.


[12:41] Mark Underwood: Wasn't sure - back quote might have been some kind of signal
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Comments on the text:


[12:41] Jack Hodges: url for slides?
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 1. "Discussing the role" limits it to position papers.


[12:42] PaulHoule: who was it that was talking about ISO Common Logic?
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 2. xx pages:


[12:42] JohnHMorris: It was Michael G. I believe
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Previously we agreed that we would not put a formal limit on - so delete that.


[12:43] Mark Underwood: Paul  that was Michael G
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Agreed that 30 pages is fine; also typical papers of 10 - 12, and also shorter position papers.


[12:43] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: For slides see http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2015/2015-05-28_Postmortem/Postmortem_MichaelGruninger_2015-05-28.pdf
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Need to re-word it to embrace both position papers and research papers. "Develop".


[12:46] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I have to confess on Slide 3 / IoT that I had a connection in IoT but did not manage to link them up to the Summit when I intended to. The interest is still there.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We should mention the relationship to the 2014 Ontloghy Aummit, however this should be indepdendent of what the submissions should be concerned with.


[12:46] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: I agree about the IoT community lack of engagement
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: discussing => focusing


[12:48] Mark Underwood: Subtext: Not all chairs would be willing to devote that level of effort both chairing, editing & writing original content
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of practical, methodological and research-oriented papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas, with a focus on content-specific integration and modelling issues. Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:


[12:53] Mark Underwood: As discussed: inward vs. outward-looking topics
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas, with a focus on content-specific integration and modelling issues.


[12:54] Jack Hodges: This notion of lack of engagement shouldn't be construed as a lack of interest. I for one am buried in IoT work but just cannot break away for summit meetings.


[12:55] Mark Underwood: Jack: Yes, inference-making about the level of engagement is not straightforward
Types of submissions sought include:  


[12:58] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: @Jack: From my perspective, the IoT community is very busy on application development, and even on standards, but I have yet to hear mention of ontology in an IoT gathering. Still a challenge.


[13:00] Jack Hodges: I suppose it depends on your definition of IoT gathering. The data-centric and big data folks I would agree with that...
Position papers


[13:01] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Open Discussion: What went well?
Practical examples


[13:01] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Quality and relevance of the virtual sessions
methodological treatments


[13:02] Jack Hodges: I thought that the depth and breadth of presentations was great. Very informative.
research-oriented papers


[13:03] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Do we want to have more sessions to allow better scheduling?
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Content specific integration? Seems a bit contradictory to narrow it down at this point.


[13:03] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: How can we support more flexible scheduling?
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We don't want to narrow it down.


[13:03] JohnHMorris: I thought the virtual were very good in terms of practice and theory, and the parallel chat and presentation modes provided a good opportunity to engage.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Remove it.


[13:03] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: More lead time before the sessions start
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: after the bullets:


[13:04] Jack Hodges: Sometimes it is awkward juggling the views for slides, chat, and audio. Is there a 'clean' way to integrate them or is this format historical?
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:


[13:04] Mark Underwood: E.g., start in December to planning horizon


[13:04] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Perhaps have the Launch session in December, with the presentations beginning in January
The role that ontologies play (or can play) in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications


[13:07] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Leo: timing of the Symposium was bad (e.g. during Cherry Blossom Festival, conflicts with other events)
Engineering of ontologies to address integration and domain-specific modeling issues


[13:07] JohnHMorris: Congratulations to everyone; my apologies I have to depart. I look to the Ontology Summit to continue the IoT effort -- there's a bit need.  Although the IoT community are skeptical of course. But the "variety" and richness of the automatable world needs ontology to manage complexity. When you are automated a thousand boilers in public buildings, you will find dozens or even hundreds of boiler models. Only ontology provides the solid basis for an IoT program for managing boiler service.  So, a big success, and keep going . . .
Sharing and reuse of ontologies within and across application or domain areas


[13:11] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: I don't think it's an either/or issue between social networks, and prestige and recognition. I do agree that building in some sort of recognition would be a valuable addition in general.
Automation and tooling in support of ontology development


[13:12] Mark Underwood: Agree, would not want to give up our current invitation protocols


[13:13] [[User:TorstenHahmann|Torsten Hahmann]]: We could always try a hybrid model: continue the current invitation model but reserve a few spots for presentations solicited through an open call
Papers should be formatted and submitted according to the guidelines of the IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology [www.iaoa.org]. The guidelines are found under the tab, "Manuscript submissions & Author instructions".


[13:13] Mark Underwood: It was also true in my session - I had reached out to other stds folks in IoT, but it was a slog to get to an agreeable target
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: .


[13:13] Mark Underwood: +1 hybridize
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Now the first para looks like this:


[13:15] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Early notification could really assist with participation of external communities, since they would know way in advance what was coming up, and an invitation to join the planning.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas.


[13:15] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: For better dissemination, I suggest we post our slide decks on SlideShare
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: (that is followed by the "Types of submissionss sought include")


[13:15] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: +1 for SlideShare
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: .


[13:16] Mark Underwood: SlideShare is very well spidered for Google Search-  I think I used it for one of mine, not sure
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Call for Papers


[13:16] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: What can be improved?
IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology Special Issue on the Role of Ontologies in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications.


[13:16] Mark Underwood: Another reason to clear the permissions issue, since some speakers plaster their decks w/ proprietary notices


[13:17] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Organization, Logistics, Content ...
The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas.  


[13:17] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I think we are making a kind of transition from us having our own "social" networks in the old sense of the word, to figuring out how to make more formal use of Social Networks in the current landscape.


[13:17] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Shared screen support for presentations
Types of submissions sought include:  


[13:17] [[User:TorstenHahmann|Torsten Hahmann]]: I like the SlideShare idea, but what is the copyright once slides are posted there? Do they authors retain copyright?


[13:18] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: @Torsten: I believe we have already released copyright on our presentations, haven't we?
Position papers


[13:18] Mark Underwood: +1 for prestige-enhancing strategies
Practical examples


[13:19] [[User:TorstenHahmann|Torsten Hahmann]]: @Steve: yes, I think so. But we wouldn't want SlideShare to suddenly assume copyright.
methodological treatments


[13:19] Mark Underwood: Torsten - yes, Peter reiterates this, but we just need to remind the authors in a systematic way (some of us, ahem, tend to clone a slide here and there)
research-oriented papers


[13:20] Ram Sriram: Last year I presented the summary of the 2014 Ontolog Summit Symposium at  the IEEE Big Data Conference (you can view that at  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv5Hiak3-g0). May be we can do the same again this year.


[13:20] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: One idea for shared screens: perhaps we could get a donation from some professional grade service, as a community service (also good advertising for them).
Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:  


[13:20] Mark Underwood: Michael reminds us there was a lot of lateness on the F2F meeting decks


[13:21] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Torsten: less European participation this year?
The role that ontologies play (or can play) in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications


[13:23] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Should we move the sessions to 1130 Eastern Time to help with European schedules?
Engineering of ontologies to address integration and domain-specific modeling issues


[13:23] Jack Hodges: even earlier than 8:30 would be ok for me
Sharing and reuse of ontologies within and across application or domain areas


[13:24] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: should we move to other days of the week (e.g. Monday)?
Automation and tooling in support of ontology development


[13:25] Mark Underwood: Suggest: Socialization to other groups; benefits obvious; concerns


[13:25] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Mondays many people have weekly meetings.
Papers should be formatted and submitted according to the guidelines of the IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology [www.iaoa.org]. The guidelines are found under the tab, "Manuscript submissions & Author instructions".


[13:27] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: +2 on Mark's comment about baseline awareness of ontology issues.
________________________________________


[13:27] Ram Sriram: I am logging off


[13:27] Mark Underwood: Take care, Ram
Important dates


[13:27] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: thanks ram
15 December, 2015: Submission Deadline


[13:28] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Thanks Ram
15 February, 2016: Notification to Authors


[13:28] Jack Hodges: Bye Ram
15 March, 2016: Camera-ready Due


[13:29] Mark Underwood: The F2F support we get from Nitrd is very hard to improve on
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: "Submissions should be concerned with the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique"


[13:29] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: @Michael: Which tool are you talking about?
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Can't be both "expanding on" and "concerned with"


[13:29] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: We need to make Team M more active, with clear responsibilities and backup roles
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Communique


[13:29] Mark Underwood: I find that this Soaphub thing freezes up - some sort of brute force throttle thing
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: From Communique:


[13:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I think we should stick with Thursdays (possibly earlier time) since people are accustomed to it, and there is a current risk of people thinking we have gone away.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 5.1 Recommendations    (4D52)


[13:30] Mark Underwood: Sue suggests 30 min session


[13:30] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Agree with shorter presentations.
1. Efforts to identify the values of ontologies within Big Data applications are of the highest priority, as gaps between the Big Data and Applied Ontology communities still exist. We should seek more opportunities to encourage cross-community interaction.    (4D53)


[13:31] [[User:TorstenHahmann|Torsten Hahmann]]: Also agree with shorter sessions - some went over 90min this time around.


[13:31] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Judith: Shorter presentations, with stricter enforcement of time constraints
2. The community should converge and adopt best practices for sharable and reusable content.    (4D54)


[13:31] Mark Underwood: Sorry Judith!


[13:31] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: 30 minutes is fine but please increase question answers
3. Semantic Web and Big Data developers need to identify the ontology features that matter to them, i.e., those which they need in an ontology or which they need to know about an ontology when considering for reuse.    (4D55)


[13:31] Mark Underwood: Correction: Judith not Sue


[13:32] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: more time for discussions after presentations
4. Ontology developers and providers should consider the above features and attempt to: (a) design and/or refactor their ontologies and methodologies with these needs in mind, when possible, and (b) provide metadata about their ontologies that indicates their status with respect to these needs.    (4D56)


[13:32] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: we need to inform the speakers of the time constraints


[13:34] [[BobbinTeegarden|Bobbin Teegarden]]: I just hopped in to add two requests for the subject of the Summit next year: 
5. The community should adopt the definition of standard metadata for reuse -- documentation of assumptions, requirements, scope, intent, use cases, history. Ontology repositories and other tools should support this metadata, and the addition of more applicable metadata by re-users and evaluators.   (4D57)
* Ontology visualization (including visualization of morphing ontologies, IoT like);
* Executable ontologies, adding process (e.g. executable IRIs?) into ontologies.


Sorry, have to go back to another meeting...


[13:34] Mark Underwood: Stu poses question of what changes, improvements types of messaging should/could be considered
6. Tools should be developed to better support modular ontology development, integration, and reuse.    (4D5


[13:35] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Can we also allow questions after each speaker as we sometimes loose track of topic if multiple topics and speakers speak and Qs are lumped at the end?


[13:35] PaulHoule: the situation is so bad we almost need a whole new vocabulary when it comes to ontology -- people in the RDF community have been driven crazy by the popular interest in Neo4J which is actually a pretty awful product
7. A wider array of functionalities should be incorporated into tools, including support for designing, publishing, finding, understanding, visualizing, verifying, maintaining, translating, integrating ontologies on the web.    (4D59)


[13:35] PaulHoule: today i talk about taxonomy -> ontology -> theory in the sense that a theory is able to actually make decisions about a domain
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: and the


[13:36] PaulHoule: another issue is that OWL is not a basis for reasoning in general,  it can't do simple things like convert temperature from centigrade to fahrenheit
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 5.2 Challenge Problems    (4D5A)


[13:36] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: We need to get the message about "What problem is solved using ontology?"


[13:37] Jack Hodges: Onto-FAQ 2016!
We can also pose a number of challenge problems which can serve to focus and guide future collaboration among the three communities of Applied Ontology, Semantic Web (and Linked Data), and Big Data.    (4D5B)


[13:37] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Is there a page or web site where we are putting post-summit work or info about work.


[13:37] Mark Underwood: Both subjects are worthwhile, but my remark was about socializing the group and the year's symposium
    What ontologies are required by Semantic Web and Big Data applications?    (4D5C)


[13:39] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: +1 on an FAQ page.


[13:39] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: thanks Steve and Mike
    What are the requirements for tools, services, and techniques that support ontology development within Semantic Web and Big Data applications?    (4D5D)


[13:39] [[User:TorstenHahmann|Torsten Hahmann]]: Sorry, I have to leave now. Good and productive discussion though!


[13:40] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: @Ravi: we need to create a page on the Summit wiki for ongoing work
    Is scalability the fundamental challenge for using ontologies on the Web?    (4D5E)


[13:40] Mark Underwood: Thx Torsten


[13:41] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Follow-up sessions in Ontolog Forum in September?
    Is the design and application of ontologies on the Web fundamentally different from existing techniques?   (4D5F)


[13:41] Mark Underwood: +1 if we can manage another meeting or two; can't hurt either facets of the socialization challenges


[13:42] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]: Brainstorming on future Ontology Summit themes
    What is the role of crowd-sourcing in ontology design?    (4D5G)


[13:42] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Also Ontolog-Forum and Summit appear to be loosely connected! we need and also I agree that we need more inter communication among multiple forums to have mutual synergy and awareness!


[13:43] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Might be helpful for people to look at http://ontolog-02.cim3.net/w/index.php?title=OntologySummit&oldid=15705#hid1B to see what the past topics have been.
    What are the requirements for the tools, services, techniques used for designing and implementing semantic content on the Semantic Web and in Big Data applications?   (4D5H)


[13:43] Mark Underwood: FYI Baseline for GoToMeeting up to 100 participants is 69/mo or 56/mo billed annually


[13:44] Jack Hodges: I would be very interested in a summit (has it been done already) on integrating domain ontologies (like what was done with SSN at a higher level). This would include matching, mapping, data migration, etc.
    Are we encountering new ontology engineering bottlenecks in Semantic Web and Big Data applications?    (4D5I)


[13:45] Mark Underwood: Judith: Ontologies & Alternative Approaches to Them


[13:45] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Ontology and Big Data integration and tools?
    Can the variety problem in Big Data applications be addressed using existing techniques for semantic integration, such as ontology mappings?   (4D5J)


[13:45] Jack Hodges: Like code?


[13:46] Jack Hodges: That kind of goes back to the notion of Onto-FAQ. We should have answers to these questions out there all the time.
    What benchmark data sets can be used to guide future work in the integration of ontologies?    (4D5K)


[13:46] PaulHoule: if a system is build "on code" or "the old fashioned way" there IS an ontology behind it,  but that is spread out in people's heads and throughout lots of codes...
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Executive Summary has 3 items:


[13:47] Jack Hodges: Sort of, but it is in one person's head and not shared, so very brittle. But this isn't news to anyone here.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: (1) The role of ontologies [in these communities],   (4D20)


[13:47] PaulHoule: from the viewpoint of a technology user integrating stuff you can build an ontology that models the properties of a system which is not ontology-based


[13:48] Mark Underwood: Ontologies for Domain-Specific Work (or some variant)
(2) Current uses of ontologies in these communities, and    (4D21)


[13:48] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: Can Ontology help reduce efforts in processing big-data (e.g. SPARQL)?


[13:48] PaulHoule: problems solved: (1) has a whole bunches of devices from different vendors and needs them to work together;  (2) doesn't "know how to code" but wants the blinds to close when the sun shines in and needs a simple way to express that
(3) Engineering of ontologies and semantic integration.    (4D22)


[13:49] Mark Underwood: TODO An FAQ
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Why not make the Special Issue concerned with the Challenge Problems (5.2 above)


[13:50] [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: Here's just a thought: Consider flipping the emphasis to be centered on a series of Hackathons on carefully considered challenge problems.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Let's use the 5.2 as a springboard - as if the end of the Communique is the call for papers.


[13:51] [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]: @Mike and @Leo - we need more continuity during the year, may be less frequent in summers, but not only focus on the summit as single event for our work, keep us informed on other interesting topics!
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Expanding? Or "we are looking for papers that address these challengge problems"


[13:51] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: We had Ontology Summit 2011: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011, "Making the Case for Ontology", which is similar to some suggestions made.
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: NExt steps:


[13:52] Mark Underwood: Another summit topic suggestion: Social Networks and Ontologies (related to Ram's windmill-tilting for IoT)
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We can handle the CfP by email in the mail list.


[13:53] PaulHoule: so far as big data,  the elephant is the room is that 80% of the effort in a *commercially viable* project goes into data cleaning and data integration that data scientists,  business people and such don't want to do.  all the vendors are piling on to the problem of the other 20% of the work,  but even if you made the the work people want to do go away you can at best reduce cost by 20%. If you can get a 75% cut in data prep time,  cost savings are better than anything that could be done by every joe dick and harry who has an analytic database or batch or stream processing solution could ever give
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Use the above work as the final form.


[14:00] Mark Underwood: Ontologies for WordPress - an out-there thought
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Mike to email this into the list.


[14:00] PaulHoule: hackathons are part of the problem instead of part of the solution -- somebody has to do the 80% of the work to make a minimum viable product rather than 20% that makes a demo that impresses people who went a whole weekend without sleep
[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Aim to release it mid June.


[14:03] Jack Hodges: Thanks all!


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Number 20
Duration 1.5 hour
Date/Time June 01 2015 14:00 GMT
7:00 PST/10:00 EST
3:00pm BST/4:00pm CET
Convener MikeBennett

IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG

Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times.

ConnectionDetails

This week we will focus on actions for an issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology.

Agenda

  • Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
    • Status update - we now have the details on parameter, expectations etc.
    • Review response to question about co-ordinating with the current Special Edition
    • Next actions
  • Housekeeping
    • Any changes / updates?
  • Other Ideas
    • Progress on 'Stack Overflow' type of resource
    • More general ideas for information resource on applied ontology and Semantic Web principles
    • Use of the Blog
  • AOB
  • Next Meeting

Proceedings

List of attendees: Ken Baclawski, Mike Bennett, Todd Schneider,

Mike Bennett: Apologies: Leo Obrst, Naicong Li

Mike Bennett: Agenda

Mike Bennett: 1. Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology

Status update - we now have the details on parameter, expectations etc.

Review response to question about co-ordinating with the current Special Edition

Next actions


2. Housekeeping

Any changes / updates?


3. Other Ideas

Progress on 'Stack Overflow' type of resource

More general ideas for information resource on applied ontology and Semantic Web principles

Use of the Blog


4. AOB


5. Next Meeting

Mike Bennett: Apologies: Elie Abi-Lahoud

anonymous morphed into Todd Schneider

Mike Bennett: MArk's reply to Leo:

Mike Bennett: I dont see this as a problem at all, Leo. The 10th anniversary call for papers was for review articles and position papers, not for research papers. Im really glad youre doing this; AO does not get enough submissions related to the Semantic Web. Thanks for drumming up business.

Mike Bennett: Timings

Avoid

Submission date July 15 (this is the date for the Anniversary Edition)

Submission

Position papers: 3 months

Longer papers: 6 months

(We would also try to solicit position papers directly from Summit 2014 participants)

Assigning Reviews

2 weeks

Reviews

1 month

= Total from submission deadline to Yes/No/Yes with comments

6 weeks

Rework by Authors

1 month

Final Decision

10 weeks after Deadline

(more if July / August are part of these cycles)


Example Timeline

Call goes out: Early June

Submission Deadline: 6 months = Early December (seems a bit long!)

Or

Submission Deadline: 3 months = 01 September

Notification to Authors: 15 October

Camera-ready Due: 15 November

Mike Bennett: 4 Months

Mike Bennett: Submission Deadline: 4 months = 01 October

Notification to Authors: 15 November

Camera-ready Due: 15 December

Mike Bennett: Consensus: We will do this.

Mike Bennett: Can make Camera ready date later in Dec - have everything wrapped up by end of December.

Mike Bennett: When are the issues?

Mike Bennett: BUT this is the dealdine for position papers (01 Otc) not 15 July, for the 10th Anniversary issue

Mike Bennett: StatusLast issue (10:1) online on 20 May 2015Next issue10:2 scheduled for July 2015

Mike Bennett: Therefore 10:40 would be Jan or Feb 2016

Mike Bennett: 6 months is more reasonable for a journal, compared to conference.

Mike Bennett: We do want to encourage research papers.

Mike Bennett: Submission Deadline: 6 months = 01 December

Notification to Authors: 15 January (or later if we add time for New Year?)

Camera-ready Due: 15 February

Mike Bennett: http://www.iospress.nl/journal/applied-ontology/

Mike Bennett: http://www.iossubmissions.com/applied-ontology/10thAnniversary

Mike Bennett: If we aim for after the Annivefsary Issue (assuming that is the 4th of 4 in 2015/16) then we would aim oto hit Vol 11 Issue 1 (May 2016?)

Mike Bennett: The issue before the Special Editioin would be Vol 10 Issue 3.

Mike Bennett: We still need to know the dates of the upcoming issues, and their corresponding camera-ready dates.

Mike Bennett: Goal is to get as many good papers as possible so a longer lead time would facilitate that.

Mike Bennett: Decision is to go with a 6 month submission deadline, counting from mid June.

Mike Bennett: That gives us a couple of weeks to get out the call.

Mike Bennett: Call for Papers

IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology Special Issue on the Role of Ontologies in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications.


The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers (minimum of xx pages) discussing the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of practical, methodological and research-oriented papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas, with a focus on content-specific integration and modelling issues. Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:

The role that ontologies play (or can play) in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications

Engineering of ontologies to address integration and domain-specific modeling issues

Sharing and reuse of ontologies within and across application or domain areas

Automation and tooling in support of ontology development


Papers should be formatted and submitted according to the guidelines of the IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology [www.iaoa.org]. The guidelines are found under the tab, "Manuscript submissions & Author instructions".

________________________________________


Important dates

15 December, 2015: Submission Deadline

15 February, 2016: Notification to Authors

15 March, 2016: Camera-ready Due

Mike Bennett: Is this a wrap?

Mike Bennett: Yes.

Mike Bennett: Comments on the text:

Mike Bennett: 1. "Discussing the role" limits it to position papers.

Mike Bennett: 2. xx pages:

Mike Bennett: Previously we agreed that we would not put a formal limit on - so delete that.

Mike Bennett: Agreed that 30 pages is fine; also typical papers of 10 - 12, and also shorter position papers.

Mike Bennett: Need to re-word it to embrace both position papers and research papers. "Develop".

Mike Bennett: We should mention the relationship to the 2014 Ontloghy Aummit, however this should be indepdendent of what the submissions should be concerned with.

Mike Bennett: discussing => focusing

Mike Bennett: The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of practical, methodological and research-oriented papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas, with a focus on content-specific integration and modelling issues. Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:

Mike Bennett: The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas, with a focus on content-specific integration and modelling issues.


Types of submissions sought include:


Position papers

Practical examples

methodological treatments

research-oriented papers

Mike Bennett: Content specific integration? Seems a bit contradictory to narrow it down at this point.

Mike Bennett: We don't want to narrow it down.

Mike Bennett: Remove it.

Mike Bennett: after the bullets:

Mike Bennett: Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:


The role that ontologies play (or can play) in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications

Engineering of ontologies to address integration and domain-specific modeling issues

Sharing and reuse of ontologies within and across application or domain areas

Automation and tooling in support of ontology development


Papers should be formatted and submitted according to the guidelines of the IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology [www.iaoa.org]. The guidelines are found under the tab, "Manuscript submissions & Author instructions".

Mike Bennett: .

Mike Bennett: Now the first para looks like this:

Mike Bennett: The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas.

Mike Bennett: (that is followed by the "Types of submissionss sought include")

Mike Bennett: .

Mike Bennett: Call for Papers

IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology Special Issue on the Role of Ontologies in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications.


The IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) Special Interest Group [ontolog-02.cim3.net] welcomes the submission of papers focusing on the role of ontologies in the areas of Linked Data, Big Data and the Semantic Web. Our goal is to collect a diverse set of papers concerned with the use of ontologies in support of these areas.


Types of submissions sought include:


Position papers

Practical examples

methodological treatments

research-oriented papers


Expanding on the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique [ontolog.cim3.net], submissions should be concerned with:


The role that ontologies play (or can play) in Linked Data, Big Data and Semantic Web Applications

Engineering of ontologies to address integration and domain-specific modeling issues

Sharing and reuse of ontologies within and across application or domain areas

Automation and tooling in support of ontology development


Papers should be formatted and submitted according to the guidelines of the IAOA Journal of Applied Ontology [www.iaoa.org]. The guidelines are found under the tab, "Manuscript submissions & Author instructions".

________________________________________


Important dates

15 December, 2015: Submission Deadline

15 February, 2016: Notification to Authors

15 March, 2016: Camera-ready Due

Mike Bennett: "Submissions should be concerned with the topics highlighted in the Ontology Summit 2014 Communique"

Mike Bennett: Can't be both "expanding on" and "concerned with"

Mike Bennett: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Communique

Mike Bennett: From Communique:

Mike Bennett: 5.1 Recommendations (4D52)


1. Efforts to identify the values of ontologies within Big Data applications are of the highest priority, as gaps between the Big Data and Applied Ontology communities still exist. We should seek more opportunities to encourage cross-community interaction. (4D53)


2. The community should converge and adopt best practices for sharable and reusable content. (4D54)


3. Semantic Web and Big Data developers need to identify the ontology features that matter to them, i.e., those which they need in an ontology or which they need to know about an ontology when considering for reuse. (4D55)


4. Ontology developers and providers should consider the above features and attempt to: (a) design and/or refactor their ontologies and methodologies with these needs in mind, when possible, and (b) provide metadata about their ontologies that indicates their status with respect to these needs. (4D56)


5. The community should adopt the definition of standard metadata for reuse -- documentation of assumptions, requirements, scope, intent, use cases, history. Ontology repositories and other tools should support this metadata, and the addition of more applicable metadata by re-users and evaluators. (4D57)


6. Tools should be developed to better support modular ontology development, integration, and reuse. (4D5


7. A wider array of functionalities should be incorporated into tools, including support for designing, publishing, finding, understanding, visualizing, verifying, maintaining, translating, integrating ontologies on the web. (4D59)

Mike Bennett: and the

Mike Bennett: 5.2 Challenge Problems (4D5A)


We can also pose a number of challenge problems which can serve to focus and guide future collaboration among the three communities of Applied Ontology, Semantic Web (and Linked Data), and Big Data. (4D5B)


   What ontologies are required by Semantic Web and Big Data applications?    (4D5C)


   What are the requirements for tools, services, and techniques that support ontology development within Semantic Web and Big Data applications?    (4D5D)


   Is scalability the fundamental challenge for using ontologies on the Web?    (4D5E)


   Is the design and application of ontologies on the Web fundamentally different from existing techniques?    (4D5F)


   What is the role of crowd-sourcing in ontology design?    (4D5G)


   What are the requirements for the tools, services, techniques used for designing and implementing semantic content on the Semantic Web and in Big Data applications?    (4D5H)


   Are we encountering new ontology engineering bottlenecks in Semantic Web and Big Data applications?    (4D5I)


   Can the variety problem in Big Data applications be addressed using existing techniques for semantic integration, such as ontology mappings?    (4D5J)


   What benchmark data sets can be used to guide future work in the integration of ontologies?    (4D5K)

Mike Bennett: Executive Summary has 3 items:

Mike Bennett: (1) The role of ontologies [in these communities], (4D20)


(2) Current uses of ontologies in these communities, and (4D21)


(3) Engineering of ontologies and semantic integration. (4D22)

Mike Bennett: Why not make the Special Issue concerned with the Challenge Problems (5.2 above)

Mike Bennett: Let's use the 5.2 as a springboard - as if the end of the Communique is the call for papers.

Mike Bennett: Expanding? Or "we are looking for papers that address these challengge problems"

Mike Bennett: NExt steps:

Mike Bennett: We can handle the CfP by email in the mail list.

Mike Bennett: Use the above work as the final form.

Mike Bennett: Mike to email this into the list.

Mike Bennett: Aim to release it mid June.


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