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= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: OOR Development Workshop-VII - Tue 2012_02_28 =
= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: Metadata Workshop-VI - Tue 2012_03_06 =


This is our 7th OOR-dev workshop, which is devoted to the topic of how we should be organized to getting real OOR-related open source software development work going. Specifically, we shall use this session to compare notes on the initial experience of various sub-team trying to make a first attempt on adding code to the existing [[BioPortal]] codebase.
Topic: '''OOR Metadata Workshop-VI: Metadata for Financial Ontologies'''


Topic: "'''Getting OOR Development Going - Take VII'''"
Session Chair: '''Professor MichaelGruninger''' (University of Toronto)


Session Chair: '''KenBaclawski'''  
Panelists:
 
* '''Mr. MikeBennett''' (EDM Council; Hypercube) - "Metadata for the Financial Industry Business Ontology (FIBO)"
* '''Mr. DavidNewman''' (Wells Fargo Bank) - "Ontology walk-thru & demo"
 
== [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/ Archives]  ==
 
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid3611 Abstract]'''
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid361M Agenda & Proceedings]'''
* '''Prepared presentation material (slides)''' can be accessed by clicking on each of the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/ title links] below:
** '''[ 0-Chair (no slides) ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/OOR_Metadata-for-FIBO--MikeBennett_20120306.pdf 1-Bennett] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/Financial-semantic-metadata_screenshots--DavidNewman_20120306a.pdf 2-Newman] (ontology walkthru via <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki>) ]'''  
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid3617 References]'''
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/oor-metadata-06_20120306b.mp3 audio recording of the session]''' [ 1:27:53 ; mp3 ; 10.06 MB  ]
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid361S Transcript of the online chat session]''' during the panel discussion
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid3626 Additional Resources]'''  


=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===


* Date: '''Tuesday, 28-Feb-2012'''  
* Date: '''Tuesday, 6-March-2012'''  
* Start Time: 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET / 16:30 UTC  
* Start Time: 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET / 16:30 UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=28&year=2012&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=6&year=2012&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 hours  
* Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 hours  


* Dial-in:  
* Dial-in:  
** '''Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100''' ''(long distance cost may apply)''
** '''Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100''' (long distance cost will apply)  
*** ... [ backup nbr: (415) 671-4335 ]
*** ... ''backup nbr (US): +1 (415) 671-4335''
** '''Skype: joinconference''' ... ''free-of-charge if you connect through skype from your computer/device with an Internet connection)''
** '''Skype: joinconference''' ... generally free-of-charge, when connecting from your computer)  
** when prompted enter '''PIN: 141184#'''  
** when prompted enter '''PIN: 141184#'''  


* '''In-session chat'''-workspace url: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oor_20120228
* '''Shared-screen support'''
** <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki> session at: https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/196569614 (hosted by MikeBennett)
** Alt: VNC session: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
*** view-only password: "ontolog"
*** if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.
** people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid35ZW slides above]''' (where applicable) and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.
 
* '''In-session chat'''-room url: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oor_20120306
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** thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) oor_20120306@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!


* '''Shared-screen support''' (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
* '''Discussions and Q & A:'''  
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* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_02_28
* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06


* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].  
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== Attendees  ==
== Attendees  ==


* Attended:  
* Attended:  
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] (chair)  
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (chair)  
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]  
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** [[DavidNewman|David Newman]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]  
** [[AliObaidi|Ali Obaidi]]
** [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]
** [[AuronaGerber|Aurona Gerber]]
** [[CarlMattocks|Carl Mattocks]]
** [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]
** [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]
** [[GrahamGal|Graham Gal]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[LinZhang|Lin Zhang]]
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
** [[RichMarkeloff|Rich Markeloff]]
** [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]
** [[DavidMcClure]]
** ...


* Expecting:  
* Expecting:  
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (chair)
** [[DavidNewman|David Newman]]
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[JamesOdell|James Odell]]
** [[JeffreyWallk|Jeffrey Wallk]]
** [[BiswanathDutta|Biswanath Dutta]]
** [[GrahamGal|Graham Gal]]
** [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]
** [[CarlMattocks|Carl Mattocks]]
** [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]
** [[AliObaidi|Ali Obaidi]]
** [[AuronaGerber|Aurona Gerber]]
** [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
*   
*   
** ... ''if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation.'' ...  
** ... ''if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation.'' ...  


* Regrets:  
* Regrets:  
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]  
** TimDarr...
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
 
** [[TimDarr|Tim Darr]]
== Abstract  ==
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
 
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]
Topic: '''OOR Metadata Workshop-VI: Metadata for Financial Ontologies'''
 
by: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]  
 
The OOR Metadata Workshop series is devoted to exploring existing and proposed approaches
to the specification of metadata for ontologies, particularly in the context of
ontology repositories.


== Agenda Ideas  ==
The workshop today will focus on ontology metadata within the financial industry.


''please insert any additional items below (along with your name for follow-up purposes)''
== References  ==


* OOR: sandbox, dev-, test-, socop-, instances - quick status update
* Proceedings of '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18 OOR Metadata Workshop-I]''' and MichaelGruninger's opening [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/metafuture--MichaelGruninger_20110318.pdf slides] from that session
** (for the next call) differentiating the various instances
* Proceedings of '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_13 OOR Metadata Workshop-II]'''
* [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: [announce] the Bremen group's plan to use a set of student projects to implement some OOR functionality
* Proceedings of '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_27 OOR Metadata Workshop-III]'''
* comparing notes on the first attempts to add code/tab to the [[BioPortal]] codebase
* Proceedings of '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_18 OOR Metadata Workshop-IV]'''
* Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box
* Proceedings of '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_01_17 OOR Metadata Workshop-V]'''
* planning and coordination on upcoming OOR events
* Metadata for Ontologies - [[OntologySummit2008_Communique|from the [[OntologySummit2008_Communique]]]]  
* ... (for this or next call) discussion: justifying "oor.net"
* Metadata requirement - [[OpenOntologyRepository_IPR|as stipulated in the OOR IPR Policy]]
* Ontology Metadata Vocabulary - [[OMV]]
** Brief Description of OMV (with diagram) - http://omv2.sourceforge.net/description.html
** "OMV - Ontology Metadata Vocabulary for the SemanticWeb" - [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/resource/OOR/OMV/OMV-Reportv2.4.1.pdf OMV v2.4.1 (final)] (Mar-2009)  
* The Joint [[OpenOntologyRepository]]-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion Session - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10
** Presentation by [[PeterHaase|Peter Haase]] "[[ConferenceCall_2008_04_10|The OMV Ontology Metadata Vocabulary]]" at that session
* [[OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture]]
* [[OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases]] - http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/kenb/ontologies/


== Agenda & Proceedings  ==
== Agenda & Proceedings  ==


'''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-dev/ Archives]:'''  
Full proceedings will be made available in our [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid35ZT archives] after the session.
 
1. Meeting called to order ... opening, participants' self-introductions. (~10 min.)
 
2. Introduction of the panel - chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (~5 min.)
 
3. Presentation by the invited speakers (~25 min. each) ... [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid35ZW slides] ]
 
4. Q & A and Open discussion (~20 min.) ... (ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid3609 process above])
 
6. Wrap-up: Announcements and Follow-up actions (where applicable) - chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (~5 min.)
 
== Transcript of the online chat during the session  ==
 
see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/oor-metadata-06_chat-transcript_unedited_20120306a.txt here].
 
(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/oor-metadata-06_chat-transcript_edited_20120306b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)
 
Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.
 
-- begin in-session chat-transcript --
 
[08:18] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the
 
''' [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: Metadata Workshop-VI - Tue 2012_03_06 '''
 
Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-VI: Metadata for Financial Ontologies
 
Session Chair: Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (University of Toronto)
 
Panelists:
 
* Mr. [[DavidNewman|David Newman]] (Wells Fargo Bank)
 
* Mr. [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]] (EDM Council; Hypercube)
 
Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06
 
Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute (please make sure your own phone is not muted as well)
 
Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"
 
''' Proceedings: '''  
 
[07:24] anonymous morphed into [[AuronaGerber|Aurona Gerber]]
 
[08:23] [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]: I am listening you ...
 
[08:27] [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]: yes i am here
 
[08:29] anonymous morphed into [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]
 
[08:30] anonymous morphed into [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]
 
[08:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I can set up a <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki> session now and people will be able to find it via a link.
 
[08:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: It will take me 3 or 4 minutes
 
[08:34] [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: @MikeBennett:yes, please!
 
[08:34] anonymous2 morphed into [[LinZhang|Lin Zhang]]
 
[08:34] anonymous morphed into [[AliObaidi|Ali Obaidi]]
 
[08:34] anonymous1 morphed into [[DavidNewman|David Newman]]
 
[08:36] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: https://www3.<nowiki>GoToMeeting</nowiki>.com/join/196569614
 
[08:36] anonymous morphed into [[GrahamGal|Graham Gal]]
 
[08:36] [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]: I don't have a mike ...
 
[08:38] [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]: I'm a Ph.D Student in UFES Brazil. My area of research is Conceptual modeling and Ontologies.
 
[08:38] [[AuronaGerber|Aurona Gerber]]: I'm here but you could not hear me. Technology challenges, perhaps next time. South AFrica
 
[08:42] [[DavidMcClure]]: I am <nowiki>David E. McClure, Jr.</nowiki>, of the U.S. Government site Data.gov. Jeanne Holm forwarded the web conference invitation.
 
[08:43] [[DavidMcClure]]: I am the Data.gov lead for metadata and will listen in if you have no objection.
 
[09:13] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @[[DavidMcClure]] - we welcome your participation and contribution! ... (Fyi, all virtual events on Ontolog are free and open)
 
[08:45] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] opening ...
 
[08:46] anonymous1 morphed into [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]
 
[08:48] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]] presenting ...
 
[08:51] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: FIBO = Financial Industry Business Ontology
 
[08:51] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: FIBIM = Financial Industry Business Information Model
 
[08:53] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: Mike's slides are only at <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki>? (which I can't get too)
 
[08:54] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @David - you can download the slides from http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid35ZW ... and run the slides from your own desktop, the speaker will prompt everyone to advance as required
 
[08:55] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: Thnx!
 
[09:09] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Mike Bennett: (slide #15) FIBIM = ISO TC68/SC4/WG11 N12 v 3.2
 
[09:14] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: @MikeBennett: can you describe your "archetypes"? The health record community has "archetypes" of a sort. In addition, the UML world has "prototypes". Are all these related?
 
[09:20] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @Leo our concept of an Archetype is just like a stereotype except that it is also a model element. It represents the ultimate abstraction of each class of "Thing", for example if all securities and derivatives are a Contract, what is the simplest kind of thing that is a Contract, and what are all the facts which necessarily and always apply to all Contracts? The element so defined is the archetype of Contract, and is also the ancestor of all classes of Thing which are themselves Contracts. Its necessary facts are inherited and/or specialized/extended by the classes of thing which are below this in the taxonomic hierarchy.
 
[09:20] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @Leo in short, we called it Archetype because this was pretty much in line with the dictionary definition of that word, and so without reference to other, possibly technical uses of that word.
 
[09:14] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[DavidNewman|David Newman]] presenting ...
 
[09:15] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: DavidNewman's slides are where?
 
[09:16] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @DavidEddy [[DavidNewman|David Newman]] has not prepared slides. If you go to the <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki> you can see what he has on screen. I believe some views form this will be uploaded after this session.
 
[09:17] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: @MikeBennett: thnx... can't get to <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki>.
 
[09:23] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I'm sorry to say that the <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki> session has reached its capacity of 16 attendees.
 
[09:24] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Now showing the Protege screen with annotation metadata examples
 
[09:25] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @DavidEddy and All - I have the <nowiki>[[GoToMeeting]]</nowiki> session displayed on the VNC screen now ... so, if you can get to VNC you might still catch it there
 
[09:26] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: @PeterYim: don't see it... will wait for slides
 
[09:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: It is displaying on the VNC screen, I can see it from here.


* [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-dev/OOR-dev-VII_20120228b.mp3 audio recording of the session] [ 0:46:51 ; mp3 ; 5.36 MB ]  
[09:28] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: @MikeBennett - evidently I don't know where VNC is
* [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-dev/chat-transcript_oor-dev_20120228a.txt chat-transcript of this session]


1. Meeting called to order:
[09:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: @DavidEddy - when you right click on the link on the session page, open in new tab or window, you get a login - type 'ontolog' - if you did that, the VNC starts as a separate application which may be lurking on your task bar.  


* [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] takes the chair and welcome everyone
[09:29] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: [[DavidNewman|David Newman]], could you explain what you mean by 'navigate'?
* review and adopt agenda
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take notes


2. Roll Call:  
[09:33] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: == [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] moderating discussion ...


* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_02_28#nid35LY above]  
[09:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also since [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] is here maybe we can hear a bit on the OMG's vision for element level metadata


* welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)  
[09:40] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Elisa - can you share your "metadata spreadsheet"? ... (is this slide#6 on Mike's slide deck?)  


3. Status Review and Discussion:  
[09:40] [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]: What I have hasn't been approved for release from OMG, but you can take Mike's slide as a partial view of it


* '''Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list''' ...(''we will skip this stock agenda item at today's call.)''
[09:46] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: My slide 6 shows only a small extract of the OMG AB Recommendations spreadsheet.  
** ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH


=== 4. Key items for review and discussion today  ===
[09:41] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Thank you for the response, Elisa ... would look forward to looking at it when it is released; please let us know.


* OOR: sandbox- (oor-03), socop- (oor-04), dev- (oor-05), test- (oor-06), instances - quick status update
[09:45] [[DavidEddy|David Eddy]]: @MikeBennett - I suspect this is a platform issue. I'm on legacy Mac & do not (yet) have Java v1.6.
** everyone should test with oor-06
** oor-01 is obsolete [action: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] will arrange to bring it down]
** Michael will make the COLORE repository at: http://code.google.com/p/colore/source/browse/ to be accessible as http://colore.oor.net - [action: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] to arrange]
** (for the next call) differentiating the various instances


* [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]: [announce] the Bremen group's plan to use a set of student projects to implement some OOR functionality
[09:52] [[ErnaniSantos|Ernani Santos]]: Sorry, but I have to go. Thanks for this good session. Bye.  
** TillMossakowski's course - students doing some rapid prototype ... they are starting a google-doc on this (which they will share with us soon) ... ''note that this is independent of the [[OntoIOp]] work.''
** [[OntoIOp]] project will look towards working with OOR as discussed in this ISO WG's recent (2012.02.23) Berlin meeting.  


* comparing notes on the first attempts to add code/tab to the [[BioPortal]] codebase
[09:54] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Ernani - bye ... thank you for the participation!
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - have created a "new page", not a "new tab" yet (as that requires some image editing work, which Ken doesn't have the tools or experience for)
*** see: http://oor-03.cim3.net/ - within the "Find an ontology" box - see:  "Browse Ontologies > Experiment"
*** Ken: this is a bottleneck for anyone to put up a new tab [Ken will make a suggestion to the NCBO folks]


* Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box
[09:54] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Use Cases: We are also looking at model-specific use cases such as making references to regulatory requirements for financial industry concepts


* planning and coordination on upcoming OOR events
[09:55] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Use Cases: also mapping to different models (especially non OWL ones)


* ... (for this or next call) discussion: justifying "oor.net"
[10:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Demystifying Financial Services Semantics - in NYC. Joint EDM Council / OMG


'''...''' ''Notes below are from previous meeting(s), and will be updated as this meeting progresses.''
[10:04] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: http://www.hypercube.co.uk/edmcouncil and navigate to the "Downloads" tab. Note that many of the diagrams on this site are a bit out of date as we move over to the OMG standards process.  


* '''OOR: sandbox, devbox, socop-instance status update'''
[10:05] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: great session!  
** ref. http://oor-03.cim3.net is the current [[OOR_SandBox]]
** <oor-04.cim3.net> is up (still on CANTOR) and accessible as: http://socop.oor.net
** Peter: WITTGENSTEIN is now up, running <nowiki>[[CentOS]] 6.2</nowiki>, now testing/debugging KVM-based virtualization
** since we are running multiple instances, we need some means to differentiate, e.g. color scheme for instant recognition of the different instances; clearly identifying software revision level; differentiating support questions from the sandbox, socop, or dev instance. ... [for discussion at the next Mar-6 call - [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] will take a lead on this!]
*** probably time to start discussing metadata for "ontology repositories" (not just for "ontologies") ... we would need this to support federation, presumably! [to be discussed on the next team meeting (Mar-6)!]


* '''planning and coordination on upcoming OOR events'''
[10:05] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Goodbye, folks!
** Mar-6 team meeting
** re-scheduling metadata (VI?) session: with [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]] on financial metadata - some time in Mar-2012 (say, Mar-13) - [MichaelGruninger]
** OOR Architecture & API Workshop-XII  now scheduled for (Mar-20) - Ken & Todd
** next Content workshop ...?
** ... lining up more?
** re-scheduling Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: on "ISO/IEC 24707 Common Logic and IKL" [MichaelGruninger & JohnBateman] ... will discuss off-line and revert (as [[OntoIOp]] is also meeting every other week now)


* '''Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box''' ... ''(item skipped; discussion deferred)''
[10:05] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 10:05am PST --  


5. '''Funding progress:'''
-- end of in-session chat-transcript --


6. '''Any Other Business:'''
6.1 Any Other Business:  


7. '''Action items:'''
6.2 Action items:  


8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:  
6.3 Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:  


* Next Meetings:  
* Next Meeting:  
** 2012_03_06 - next Regular OOR Team meeting - first Tuesday of the month - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06]]
** regular monthly OOR team meeting next week - Tue 2012.03.13  
** next Metadata workshop (VI) on Tue 2012.03.13  
** then the "OOR Architecture & API Workshop-XI" on Tue 2012.03.20  
*** we might swap the two dates - Mar-6 & Mar-13 ... [MichaelGruninger will confirm ASAP]
** next Architecture API workshop (XI) on Tue 2012.03.20  


* Call adjourned at: 9:18 am PST
* Call adjourned at: 10:05 am PDT


--
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notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2012.02.28-9:19am PST
notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2012.03.06-10:19am PST


All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.  
All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.  
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* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|OOR Charter]]''' - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.  
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|OOR Charter]]''' - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.  
* '''"Ontology Repository" Definition''' - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"  
* '''"Ontology Repository" Definition''' - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"  
* '''Team mailing list:'''  
* '''Team mailling list:'''  
** OOR-Team discussion: [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/ oor-forum] ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/  
** OOR-Team discussion: [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/ oor-forum] ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/  
** OOR-Users discussion and support: [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-users/ oor-users] ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-users/  
** OOR-Users discussion and support: [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-users/ oor-users] ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-users/  
** Developers mailing list: '''[ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/ oor-dev] ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/  
** Developers mailling list: '''[ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/ oor-dev] ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/  
* proceedings of our '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|previous meetings, panel discussions and workshops]]'''  
* proceedings of our '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|previous meetings, panel discussions and workshops]]'''  


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** 2011_09_20 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VII" - Co-chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_20]]  
** 2011_09_20 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VII" - Co-chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_20]]  
** 2011_10_11 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VIII" - Co-chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_11]]  
** 2011_10_11 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VIII" - Co-chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_11]]  
** 2011_11_29 - Tuesday: Joint NCBO-OOR Session - "OOR Architecture & API Workshop-IX: [[BioPortal]] & OOR Synergies" - Co-chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - Discussant: [[RayFergerson|Ray Fergerson]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_29]]  
** 2012_01_31 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Workshop-X" - Co-chairs: [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] & [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_01_31]]  
** 2012_01_31 - Tuesday: OOR Architecture & API Workshop-X - Co-chairs: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_01_31]]  
** 2012_03_20 - Tuesday: OOR - "Architecture & API Workshop-XI" - Co-chairs: [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] & [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_20]]  


*   
*   
** 2011_11_08 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-V" Workshop - Chair: [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] - "Getting OOR Development going, on Eclipse?" - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_08]]  
** 2011_11_08 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-V" Workshop - Chair: [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] - "Getting OOR Development going, on Eclipse?" - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_08]]  
** 2011_11_22 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-VI" Workshop - Chair: [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_22]]  
** 2011_11_22 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-VI" Workshop - Chair: [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_11_22]]  
** 2012_02_28 - Tuesday: "Getting [[OOR]] Development Going - Take-VII" Workshop - Chair: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_02_28]]  
** 2012_02_28 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-VII" Workshop - Chair: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_02_28]]  


*   
*   
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** 2011_05_13 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-II - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_13]]  
** 2011_05_13 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-II - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_13]]  
** 2011_05_27 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-III - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_27]]  
** 2011_05_27 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-III - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_27]]  
** 2011_10_18 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-IV - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_18]]  
** 2011_10_18 - Tuesday: OOR Metadata Workshop-IV - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_10_18]]  
** 2012_01_17 - Tuesday: OOR Metadata Workshop-V - "OOR Metadata Workshop-V: Crosswalk between [[OMV]] & [[CTS2]], and other relevant work by the [[NIH]]/[[NCI]]-[[ORWG]]" Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - Panelists: [[HaroldSolbrig|Harold Solbrig]], [[SherriDeCoronado]], [[BrianDavis|Brian Davis]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_01_17]]  
** 2012_01_17 - Tuesday: OOR Metadata Workshop-V - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_01_17]]  
** 2012_03_06 - Tuesday: OOR Metadata Workshop-VI - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06]]  
 
* 
** 2011_12_13 - Tuesdayday: OOR Infrastructure Workshop - Chair: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_12_13]]  


* the '''OOR-IPR mini-series''':  
* the '''OOR-IPR mini-series''':  
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** 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability ([[OntoIOp]])" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] & [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20  
** 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability ([[OntoIOp]])" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] & [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20  
** 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] & [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03  
** 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] & [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03  
** 2011_12_15 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "ISO/IEC 24707 Common Logic and IKL" - Co-chairs: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] & [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] - ConferenceCall_2011_12_15


* '''OntologySummit2008''' homepage  
* '''OntologySummit2008''' homepage  
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* '''[[OOR/ActiveMemberContribution]]'''  
* '''[[OOR/ActiveMemberContribution]]'''  
* '''OOR Project site at [[SemWebCentral]]''' - http://oor.semwebcentral.org  
* '''OOR Project site at [[SemWebCentral]]''' - http://oor.semwebcentral.org  
* '''Public instances of OOR - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies''' ...  
* '''Public instances of OOR - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies''' (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies) ... we are in process to standing up:
** '''[[OOR_SandBox]]''' - http://sandbox.oor.net/ (also, canonically: http://oor-03.cim3.net )
** '''[[OOR_SandBox]]''' - http://oor-03.cim3.net - http://sandbox.oor.net/  
** '''SOCoP[http://socop.oor.net/ _OOR]''' - http://socop.oor.net/ (also, canonically: http://oor-04.cim3.net )
** '''[[OOR_DevBox]]''' - http://oor-01.cim3.net - http://dev.oor.net/
** '''[[OOR_DevBox]]''' - http://dev.oor.net/ (also, canonically: http://oor-05.cim3.net )
*** see also: '''[[OOR_SandBox_Customization]]'''  
** '''[[OOR_TestBox]]''' - ( http://test.oor.net/ - http://oor-06.cim3.net ) - ''coming!''
** '''SOCoP[http://socop.oor.net/ _OOR]''' - http://oor-04.cim3.net - http://socop.oor.net/  
** (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies running [[BioPortal]] v2.6 code is now being retired.)
** '''[[NCBO]] - [http://bioportal.bioontology.org/ BioPortal]'''  
** '''[[NCBO]] - [http://bioportal.bioontology.org/ BioPortal]'''  
*** BioPortal's [bioontology-support] mailing list - see: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/bioontology-support  
*** BioPortal's [bioontology-support] mailing list - see: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/bioontology-support  
** NCBO-OOR development documentation - http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO-OOR_Development  
** NCBO-OOR development documentation - http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO-OOR_Development  
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OpenOntologyRepository: Metadata Workshop-VI - Tue 2012_03_06

Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-VI: Metadata for Financial Ontologies

Session Chair: Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto)

Panelists:

  • Mr. MikeBennett (EDM Council; Hypercube) - "Metadata for the Financial Industry Business Ontology (FIBO)"
  • Mr. DavidNewman (Wells Fargo Bank) - "Ontology walk-thru & demo"

Archives

Conference Call Details

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    • TimDarr...

Abstract

Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-VI: Metadata for Financial Ontologies

by: Michael Grüninger

The OOR Metadata Workshop series is devoted to exploring existing and proposed approaches to the specification of metadata for ontologies, particularly in the context of ontology repositories.

The workshop today will focus on ontology metadata within the financial industry.

References

Agenda & Proceedings

Full proceedings will be made available in our archives after the session.

1. Meeting called to order ... opening, participants' self-introductions. (~10 min.)

2. Introduction of the panel - chair: Michael Grüninger (~5 min.)

3. Presentation by the invited speakers (~25 min. each) ... [ slides ]

4. Q & A and Open discussion (~20 min.) ... (ref. process above)

6. Wrap-up: Announcements and Follow-up actions (where applicable) - chair: Michael Grüninger (~5 min.)

Transcript of the online chat during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

[08:18] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: Metadata Workshop-VI - Tue 2012_03_06

Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-VI: Metadata for Financial Ontologies

Session Chair: Professor Michael Grüninger (University of Toronto)

Panelists:

Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06

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Proceedings:

[07:24] anonymous morphed into Aurona Gerber

[08:23] Ernani Santos: I am listening you ...

[08:27] Ernani Santos: yes i am here

[08:29] anonymous morphed into David Eddy

[08:30] anonymous morphed into Andrea Westerinen

[08:33] Mike Bennett: I can set up a [[GoToMeeting]] session now and people will be able to find it via a link.

[08:33] Mike Bennett: It will take me 3 or 4 minutes

[08:34] Michael Grüninger: @MikeBennett:yes, please!

[08:34] anonymous2 morphed into Lin Zhang

[08:34] anonymous morphed into Ali Obaidi

[08:34] anonymous1 morphed into David Newman

[08:36] Mike Bennett: https://www3.GoToMeeting.com/join/196569614

[08:36] anonymous morphed into Graham Gal

[08:36] Ernani Santos: I don't have a mike ...

[08:38] Ernani Santos: I'm a Ph.D Student in UFES Brazil. My area of research is Conceptual modeling and Ontologies.

[08:38] Aurona Gerber: I'm here but you could not hear me. Technology challenges, perhaps next time. South AFrica

[08:42] DavidMcClure: I am David E. McClure, Jr., of the U.S. Government site Data.gov. Jeanne Holm forwarded the web conference invitation.

[08:43] DavidMcClure: I am the Data.gov lead for metadata and will listen in if you have no objection.

[09:13] Peter P. Yim: @DavidMcClure - we welcome your participation and contribution! ... (Fyi, all virtual events on Ontolog are free and open)

[08:45] Peter P. Yim: == Michael Grüninger opening ...

[08:46] anonymous1 morphed into Elisa Kendall

[08:48] Peter P. Yim: == Mike Bennett presenting ...

[08:51] Peter P. Yim: Mike Bennett: FIBO = Financial Industry Business Ontology

[08:51] Peter P. Yim: Mike Bennett: FIBIM = Financial Industry Business Information Model

[08:53] David Eddy: Mike's slides are only at [[GoToMeeting]]? (which I can't get too)

[08:54] Peter P. Yim: @David - you can download the slides from http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_03_06#nid35ZW ... and run the slides from your own desktop, the speaker will prompt everyone to advance as required

[08:55] David Eddy: Thnx!

[09:09] Peter P. Yim: Mike Bennett: (slide #15) FIBIM = ISO TC68/SC4/WG11 N12 v 3.2

[09:14] Leo Obrst: @MikeBennett: can you describe your "archetypes"? The health record community has "archetypes" of a sort. In addition, the UML world has "prototypes". Are all these related?

[09:20] Mike Bennett: @Leo our concept of an Archetype is just like a stereotype except that it is also a model element. It represents the ultimate abstraction of each class of "Thing", for example if all securities and derivatives are a Contract, what is the simplest kind of thing that is a Contract, and what are all the facts which necessarily and always apply to all Contracts? The element so defined is the archetype of Contract, and is also the ancestor of all classes of Thing which are themselves Contracts. Its necessary facts are inherited and/or specialized/extended by the classes of thing which are below this in the taxonomic hierarchy.

[09:20] Mike Bennett: @Leo in short, we called it Archetype because this was pretty much in line with the dictionary definition of that word, and so without reference to other, possibly technical uses of that word.

[09:14] Peter P. Yim: == David Newman presenting ...

[09:15] David Eddy: DavidNewman's slides are where?

[09:16] Mike Bennett: @DavidEddy David Newman has not prepared slides. If you go to the [[GoToMeeting]] you can see what he has on screen. I believe some views form this will be uploaded after this session.

[09:17] David Eddy: @MikeBennett: thnx... can't get to [[GoToMeeting]].

[09:23] Mike Bennett: I'm sorry to say that the [[GoToMeeting]] session has reached its capacity of 16 attendees.

[09:24] Mike Bennett: Now showing the Protege screen with annotation metadata examples

[09:25] Peter P. Yim: @DavidEddy and All - I have the [[GoToMeeting]] session displayed on the VNC screen now ... so, if you can get to VNC you might still catch it there

[09:26] David Eddy: @PeterYim: don't see it... will wait for slides

[09:27] Mike Bennett: It is displaying on the VNC screen, I can see it from here.

[09:28] David Eddy: @MikeBennett - evidently I don't know where VNC is

[09:30] Mike Bennett: @DavidEddy - when you right click on the link on the session page, open in new tab or window, you get a login - type 'ontolog' - if you did that, the VNC starts as a separate application which may be lurking on your task bar.

[09:29] Todd Schneider: David Newman, could you explain what you mean by 'navigate'?

[09:33] Peter P. Yim: == Michael Grüninger moderating discussion ...

[09:33] Mike Bennett: Also since Elisa Kendall is here maybe we can hear a bit on the OMG's vision for element level metadata

[09:40] Peter P. Yim: @Elisa - can you share your "metadata spreadsheet"? ... (is this slide#6 on Mike's slide deck?)

[09:40] Elisa Kendall: What I have hasn't been approved for release from OMG, but you can take Mike's slide as a partial view of it

[09:46] Mike Bennett: My slide 6 shows only a small extract of the OMG AB Recommendations spreadsheet.

[09:41] Peter P. Yim: Thank you for the response, Elisa ... would look forward to looking at it when it is released; please let us know.

[09:45] David Eddy: @MikeBennett - I suspect this is a platform issue. I'm on legacy Mac & do not (yet) have Java v1.6.

[09:52] Ernani Santos: Sorry, but I have to go. Thanks for this good session. Bye.

[09:54] Peter P. Yim: @Ernani - bye ... thank you for the participation!

[09:54] Mike Bennett: Use Cases: We are also looking at model-specific use cases such as making references to regulatory requirements for financial industry concepts

[09:55] Mike Bennett: Use Cases: also mapping to different models (especially non OWL ones)

[10:02] Mike Bennett: Demystifying Financial Services Semantics - in NYC. Joint EDM Council / OMG

[10:04] Mike Bennett: http://www.hypercube.co.uk/edmcouncil and navigate to the "Downloads" tab. Note that many of the diagrams on this site are a bit out of date as we move over to the OMG standards process.

[10:05] Peter P. Yim: great session!

[10:05] Leo Obrst: Goodbye, folks!

[10:05] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 10:05am PST --

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --

6.1 Any Other Business:

6.2 Action items:

6.3 Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meeting:
    • regular monthly OOR team meeting next week - Tue 2012.03.13
    • then the "OOR Architecture & API Workshop-XI" on Tue 2012.03.20
  • Call adjourned at: 10:05 am PDT

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.03.06-10:19am PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30
  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03

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