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= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2011_09_06 =
= Joint [[NCBO]]-[[OOR]] Panel Discussion: "Kicking-off the Next Phase of Collaboration" - Tue 13-Sep-2011 =


This is a regular OOR Team meeting. '''''Do pay special attention to the time of the call''''', as this is the first session on the newly adopted meeting slot (where we moved the Fridays starting 6:00am PDT / 9:00am EDT / 3:00pm CEST  to Tuesdays starting at 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 5:30pm CEST.)
'''This is an important milestone for the [[OpenOntologyRepository]] initiative, and will mark a new phase of collaboration between the [[NCBO]]-BioPortal team and the [[OOR]] team. Join us to find out more on where things stand, what changes are in store, some of the vision going forward, and provide us your input.'''  


... ''please refer to proceedings from the last team meeting at [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_08_05]]''  
''Note that we have a hard stop at 10:00am PDT for this session. To make sure we can get the best out of the 90 minutes available for this session, we will start and end promptly on time. Please dial into the conference line a few minutes before the scheduled start time.''  


=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details ===
* Co-chairs: '''Dr. RayFergerson''' ([[NCBO]]; Stanford) and '''Mr. PeterYim''' ([[OOR]]; [[Ontolog]]; CIM3)
 
* Panelists:
** '''Professor MarkMusen''' ([[NCBO]]; Stanford)
** '''Dr. NatashaNoy''' ([[NCBO]]; Stanford)
** '''Dr. TrishWhetzel''' ([[NCBO]]; Stanford)
** '''Dr. LeoObrst''' ([[OOR]]; MITRE)
** '''Professor KenBaclawski''' ([[OOR]]; Northeastern U)
** '''Dr. ToddSchneider''' ([[OOR]]; Raytheon)
 
* [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/ Archive]:
** '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13#nid2WXS Agenda & Proceedings]'''
** '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13#nid2WY0 Abstract]'''
** '''Prepared presentation material''' can be accessed by clicking on each of the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/ title links] below:
*** '''[ 0-Opening:Musen''' (no slides) '''] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/BioPortal-Status-n-Plans--RayFergerson-NCBO_20110913.pdf 1-BioPortal:Fergerson] ] . [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/The-OOR-Initiative_an-update--KenBaclawski-MikeDean-LeoObrst-ToddSchneider-PeterYim_20110913.pdf 2-OOR:Yim-Obrst-Schneider-Baclawski)] ]'''
** '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2_20110913b.mp3 audio recording of the session]''' [ 1:23:44 ; mp3 ; 9.6MB ]
** '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13#nid2WY7 Transcript of the online chat session]''' during the panel discussion
** Other '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13#nid2WX8 Resources]'''
 
== Agenda & Proceedings ==


* Date: '''Tuesday, 6-Sep-2011'''
'''Session Topic: "Kicking-off the Next Phase of [[NCBO]]-[[OOR]] Collaboration"'''  
* Start Time: 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 5:30pm CEST / 4:30pm BST / 15:30 UTC
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=6&year=2011&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
* Dial-in Number:
** from a '''US telephone (US): +1-218-844-8060''' (domestic long distance cost will apply)
** When calling in from a phone, use '''Conference ID: "4389979#"'''
** '''from Europe, call:'''
*** Austria 0820-4000-1577
*** Belgium 070-35-9992
*** France 0826-100-280
*** Germany 01805-00-7642
*** Ireland 0818-270-037
*** Italy 848-390-179
*** Spain 0902-886-056
*** Switzerland 0848-560-327
*** UK 0844-581-9148
** callers '''from other countries''' please dial into either one of the US or European numbers


* '''In-session chat'''-room url: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oor_20110906
* '''Session Format & Agenda:''' this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
** 1. Opening Remarks - Mark Musen (5 min.)
** 2. [[NCBO]] Briefing - [[RayFergerson|Ray Fergerson]] (20 min.) ... [ [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13#nid2WWQ slides] ]
** 3. [[OOR]] Briefings - LeoObrst-PeterYim, KenBaclawski-ToddSchneider (2 presentations, 10 min. each)
** 3. Q & A and open discussion - All (30 min.) ... please refer to [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13#nid2WWZ process above]
** 4. Conclusion / Follow-up - co-chairs


* '''RSVP''' '' to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated,'' ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.)
=== Abstracts  ===


* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_06
* '''Topic: "Kicking-off the Next Phase of [[NCBO]]-[[OOR]] Collaboration"'''
** by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & [[RayFergerson|Ray Fergerson]]


* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].  
::'''This is an important milestone for the [[OpenOntologyRepository]] initiative, and will mark a new phase of collaboration between the [[NCBO]]-BioPortal team and the [[OOR]] team.'''


== Attendees  ==
:: '''Professor Mark Musen, Principal Investigator of [[NCBO]], and a staunch supporter of the [[OOR]] initiative will kick-off this session for us. His opening will be followed by briefings from both the NCBO-BioPortal team and the OOR team. The briefings will include reports on the current status, important changes and plans that are underway, and how the teams see things both at a high-level (vision, strategy, ...) and low-level (tactics, implementations, coding, operations, ...) going forward.'''


* Attended:  
::'''The breifings will be followed by an extended discussion among the panelists and all participants at this session, where we hope to be able to collect input from the community on their expectations, as well as insights on how we can get the best synergy from this next phase of the [[NCBO]]-[[OOR]] collaboration.'''
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] (chair)
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]
** [[YuriyMilov|Yuriy Milov]]
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]


* Expecting:  
::'''Come join us at this session to find out more on where things stand, what changes are in store, some of the vision going forward, and provide us your input.'''  
** ... ''if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation.'' ...


* Regrets:
=== Transcript of the online chat during the session  ===
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[TimDarr|Tim Darr]]


== Agenda Ideas  ==
see raw transcript [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/chat-transcript_unedited_20110913a.txt here].


''please insert any additional items below (along with your name for follow-up purposes)''
(for better clarity, the version below is a [http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2011-09-13_NCBO-OOR-Collaboration-2/chat-transcript_edited_20110913b.txt re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].)


* status update on the OOR Logo quest
Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.  
* assessing a strengthened OOR-NCBO collaborative relationship
* OOR-sandbox and OOR-devbox status update
** http://oor-01.cim3.net/ - now: http://sandbox.oor.net/ --> to become our OOR-devbox (OOR development server)
** http://oor-02.cim3.net/ - to be designated: http://sandbox.oor.net/
* preparation for next week's Joint OOR-NCBO Team Session - ref. [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13]]
* planning and coordination on other upcoming OOR events
* ...  


== Agenda & Proceedings  ==
-- begin of chat session --


'''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/MeetingsCalls/ Archives]:'''
[08:19] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Welcome to the


* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/MeetingsCalls/OOR-team-conf-call_20110906b.mp3 audio recording of the session]''' ( 1:00:41 ; mp3 ; 6.95 MB )
= Joint NCBO-OOR Panel Discussion - Tue 13-Sep-2011 =
* '''[http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/MeetingsCalls/chat-transcript_oor-team_20110906a.txt chat-transcript of this session]''' (unedited)


1. Meeting called to order:  
Topic: : "Kicking-off the Next Phase of NCBO-OOR Collaboration"


* [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] takes the chair and welcome everyone
Co-chairs: Dr. [[RayFergerson|Ray Fergerson]] (NCBO; Stanford) and Mr. [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (OOR; Ontolog; CIM3)
* review and adopt agenda
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take notes


2. Roll Call:  
Panelists:  


* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_06#nid2WHO above]
Professor Mark Musen (NCBO; Stanford)


* welcome and intro of new member(s) (as needed)  
Dr. Natasha Noy (NCBO; Stanford)  


3. Status Review and Discussion:
Dr. [[TrishWhetzel|Trish Whetzel]] (NCBO; Stanford)


* '''Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list''' ...(''we will skip this stock agenda item at today's call.)''
Dr. [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] (OOR; MITRE)  
** ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH


=== 4. Key items for review and discussion today  ===
Professor [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] (OOR; Northeastern U)


* status update on the OOR Logo quest
Dr. [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] (OOR; Raytheon)  
** announcement on final round of polls out - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2011-09/msg00002.html
** The online poll form is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OOR/OOR-Logo/Poll/poll-02.html
** See details on: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates
* assessing a strengthened OOR-NCBO collaborative relationship
* OOR-sandbox and OOR-devbox status update
** http://oor-01.cim3.net/ - now: http://sandbox.oor.net/ --> to become our OOR-devbox (OOR development server)
** http://oor-02.cim3.net/ - to be designated: http://sandbox.oor.net/
* preparation for next week's Joint OOR-NCBO Team Session - ref. [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13]]
** we need to figure out who will
*** (i) prepare and (ii) present for OOR at the Sep-13 Joint NCBO-OOR session, both at (a) the high level, and (b) low level, and
**** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] and [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] will work on the high level presentation
**** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] and [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (need to contact Michael to get his confirmation) to work on the low level presentation
**** presentations: 10 minutes each - let's provide a status review, and present our vision
*** put together a list of things we want accomplished at that call - input posted to the chat-workspace:


[[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]: Issues/questions for next week's joint meeting
Please refer to details on session page


[[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]: I will plan to attend next Tuesday
at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13


[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: I probably won't make it a I sometimes have a conflict at this time now.
Participants will be muted before session starts


[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Modularity of ontologies - any requirements / constraints on this?
To unmute phone: press *3 ... to put phone on mute again: *2


[[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]: Old business I know but: status/influence of Metadata repository standard (ISO 19763)
.


and New work item 17347?
= Proceedings =


[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Terry - [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] and [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]] is working rolling out a joint
.  


IAOA-OOR-Ontolog mini-series on "Ontology Standards" - a session on ISO 19763 is
[08:22] [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]: I'll need to drop off around 12:10, but will lurk until then


one of the first ones they'll be featuring. As for ISO 17347, that is very new
[08:24] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Hi Mike ... thanks for being here


(just got adopted as a NWI (new work item)during the ISO meeting in Seoul, Korea
[08:26] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Peter, I may need to leave after the first hour. I'll try and stay as long as possible.


this June - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntoIOp - I will email
[08:27] anonymous morphed into [[TimWilson|Tim Wilson]]


you [[SueEllenWright]]'s contact, she is the ISO/TC37/SC3 chair, where this work is
[08:28] [[TimWilson|Tim Wilson]]: Will there be sound on "hopper"? Does the VNC have sound?


going to take place.  
[08:59] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Tim - the HOPPER server (i.e. vnc2) is only for screen sharing ... no voice support


[[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]: Like [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], support for ontologies consisting of multiple modules/files
[08:28] anonymous morphed into Niranjan Manjunath


(e.g. NASA SWEET has 200 modules)
[08:30] anonymous morphed into [[RayFergerson|Ray Fergerson]]


[[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]: How best to support a larger category hierarchy, user-defined categories, etc.
[08:30] Kathy Ellis2 morphed into [[KathyEllis|Kathy Ellis]]  


[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Standardized use of element-level metadata i.e. the emerging consensus on what terms to
[08:32] anonymous morphed into [[ElizabethFlorescu|Elizabeth Florescu]]  


use from DC, SKOS and so on; when and whether to add additional element metadata
[08:36] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Peter, I'm having phone issues.


[[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Consensus on how precisely to use OWL Annotation Properties for additional
[08:37] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: Todd, let me know if you need me to take over for you in our talk.


element-level metadata (provenance, labeling, additional logical information etc,)
[08:38] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Ken, I now have a voice connection.


[[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]: Plans for federation
[08:36] anonymous morphed into [[ChuckRehberg|Chuck Rehberg]]  


[[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: Naming is always a big problem for federated systems. [[BioPortal]] assigns database
[08:38] anonymous morphed into Dave Hau (NCI) [DavidHau]  


identifiers which is fine for a centralized repository but does not work well for
[08:40] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Ray, can you speak louder?


a federated system. We need a more flexible mechanism for assigning names/identifiers.
[08:40] anonymous morphed into [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]


[[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: Distributed reasoning capability: reasoning with a combination of ontologies that
[08:44] anonymous morphed into [[MyCoyne]]  


are not all stored at the same site.  
[08:53] [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]: I still did not catch which RDF triple store is being used.  


[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: now that we are "branching" instead of "forking" ... since Natasha Noy told us that NCBO
[08:53] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Frank - let's ask Ray during the discussion later


was thinking of moving their code repository to git (github, maybe?), we may want to
[08:54] anonymous morphed into YefimZhuk


explore how we can best working off a shared repository to facilitate cross-contributions
[08:40] pradeep: not able to dial from south korea


in the future.
[08:40] pradeep: any help? sorry


[[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: how can we best handle support issues ... need support from the [[BioPortal]] team
[08:52] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @pradeep - besides the US conference nbr, can you try some of the other (EU) phone numbers?


- [[RayFergerson|Ray Fergerson]], [[TrishWhetzel|Trish Whetzel]], [[PaulAlexander|Paul Alexander]], Natasha Noy,  et al.  
[09:04] pradeep: @PeterYim tried all the numbers not able to connect. Will wait for the audio files.  


Any possibility of using skype ? I am highly interested in the talk please help me.  
** 
*** Peter: also (for later) should we explore running a shared eclipse development environment for the community?
* planning and coordination on other upcoming OOR events ... ''(discussion postponed)''


... ''Notes below are from previous meeting(s), and will be updated as this meeting progresses.''
[09:05] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @pradeep - too bad ... the audio archive will be ready in a couple of days


* status update on the OOR Logo quest
[09:02] YefimZhuk: Ray, thanks for a very informative talk! which RDF Triplestore do you use in the BioPortal?
** Peter: I'm behind on getting the voting mechanism in place, will work on it within this coming week
** will allow multiple votes from each voter, to be split between their choices
* Review status: the upgraded OOR_SandBox - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies
** for now certain behaviors seem strange - Ken and Mike will look into the issues
*** Ken: a lot of it is with the disabling of some hard coded portions (like the swf codes) now
** "visualize" not working now ... Ken will try re-enabling access to U of Victoria (which serves the visualization)
* updating "categories"
** Peter: the ICOM people suggests adding the categories of "standards" and "collaboration" (the latter probably belongs under "Cultural"
** Mike: something like Dublin Core should go under "metadata" - we are adding this category, "process" too
** discussed - see updated "category" list at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_08_05#nid2W6B
** one can select multiple categories by doing a "ctrl-click" (or "cmd" for Mac users)
** Ken: the software stores "categories" in an OMV ontology, and support a hierarchy of nested categories
*** Mike: there is a GUI interface for adding categories
** All: we probably want to leave it simple (one level) and support "addition of categories" on demand
** Todd: For some categories, e.g., science, subcategories will be needed. Since the provided listing is linear, subcategories could be listed as pairs or triples: Science, Science - Biology, Science-Physics, Science-Physics-Gravitation, etc.
** Leo: we might consider adopting some standard categorization, like what the Library of Congress has put out (maybe not the entire hierarchy, but only the very upper level(s)
* soliciting content (ask people to upload their ontologies again)
** we will put out a note to [oor-forum] when we are ready ... i.e.
*** updated categories are up
*** we clearly know what we'll be doing ref. the dual-track approach (see discussion below)
* Discussion: the [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_07_15#nid2VYW newly adopted dual-track OOR approach]
** action planning
*** we run (for now) 2 instances - a sandbox instance[1] on the OOR-01 vm, and an experimental instance[2] on the OOR-02 vm
**** [1] this will be a straight forward, and updated [[BioPortal]] code install, with customization only for: the logo, the IP / License statement, categories.
**** [2] this will be the instance we use to continue the current work of further development in Architecture, API, metadata, CL support, etc.
**** consensus: both instances would use the same database (so ontologies uploaded are accessible by both instances, and are obviously "in sync" ... saving us the need to "import" as we ad discussed at the last meeting)
*** Peter: the next things to push is to have "gatekeeping" in place so we can stand up a "production" OOR
** scheduling meeting with the NCBO team
*** candidate dates Sep-20 or 27 Tuesdays 8:30am PT ... Peter will ping Mark Musen et al.
* OOR or joint OOR events planning, for the Fall and beyond
* Revisiting regular meeting time (day-of-week, and starting-time)


''(unless specifically addressed) items below are from the previous meeting(s) and will be updated as we proceed with this meeting.''
[09:06] [[ChuckRehberg|Chuck Rehberg]]: I need to leave - he can have my phone line


* Status and action review: upgrade to OOR-sandbox - http://oor-01.cim3.net or http://sandbox.oor.net
[09:06] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @Chuck - thanks ... it's not the limitation of lines that is the problem, unfortunately
** workplan (from previous calls):
*** update codebase to appropriate oor install code
**** customize banner/logo
**** customize IPR statement
**** re-establish categories - ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/2011-02/msg00012.html MikeDean's input]  
**** other?
*** installation - ETA of updated OOR (v ? )
** prepare vm image
*** vm image available for download - ETA
** [[TimDarr|Tim Darr]] offer to help, some from his team of 8~10 people might get involved, most of the necessary skill sets in java programming, linux sysadmin, vmware, etc. are available
** ''(from 2011.05.06)'' ref input from [[PaulAlexander|Paul Alexander]], [[BioPortal]] is now delivered as an "appliance" - in a vm image
*** the NCBO folks uses the VMware platform for their virtual machine
*** we are currently using (at CIM3) Xen virtual machine for the OOR-sandbox
*** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]: there are utilities that help convert between VMware and Xen vm images
** Anyhow, we need to install from the code - code from the semwebcentral oor code repository
** it is suggested that a conf call between us and the Stanford folks (with, say, [[TejasParikh|Tejas Parikh]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] with [[PaulAlexander|Paul Alexander]], AlexSkrenchuk, ...) be done ASAP so that we can learn from them they key changes in the recent versions and how the installation is different now [ Ken will arrange ]


* Category list (based on MikeDean's list): (updated 2011.08.05)
[09:10] pradeep: @PeterYim thank you.  
** Upper Ontologies
** Standards (for example, Measurement)
** Science (for example, Biomedical)
** Financial
** Government
** Cultural (for example, Social Networking, People)
** Geospatial
** Commercial
** Literature
** Technology
** Provenance
** Defence
** Metadata (for example, OMV, Dublin Core)
** Process (for example, PSL)
** Other


* Status and action review: OOR-dev box - http://oor-02.cim3.net
[09:13] [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]]: @Todd: multiple representation languages: +10 :-)


* OOR Logo - ref. [[OOR_Logo_Candidates]] - updated process (ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_06#nid2TIL previous process])
[09:13] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: @JohnBateman - that's where you guys come in!


* Getting us to a stage when members can contribute code ... how, ETA?
[09:14] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: John, support for multiple representation languages requires the independence of the functionality.  
** ''(discussion 2011.05.06):''
*** an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
** All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
*** in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
** (discussion 2011.06.03)'' ...  


* getting the OOR code repository at semwebcentral started (for real!) - http://oor.semwebcentral.org/
[09:21] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Ray, Mark, can you elaborate a bit on what you envision for licensing ontologies?  
** [[OOR_SandBox]] - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies)
** OOR code-repository and re-assessing the 'fork' (what does that mean?) [MikeDean, [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], et al.]
*** 2011.02.18 / [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - have sent question to [[PaulAlexander|Paul Alexander]] about it
** categories - ref. MikeDean's msg - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/2011-02/msg00012.html
** 2011.02.18: *'''Important Note'''* - we will start afresh on the OOR sandbox content (i.e. uploaded ontologies) after the update install - everyone who has uploaded ontologies so far should note
*** those who are "using" the OOR sandbox content now, should note down the ontologies they need, and may need to contact the authors to upload them again if they don't show up. (presumably, those content relating to biomedicine, previously federated from [[BioPortal]], will not be there any more, at least not automatically.) Also, links to ontologies or elements within ontologies established previously will no longer be valid after the content gets re-populated - Ken will make a post about this on [oor-forum]
** workplan:
*** update codebase to appropriate oor install code
**** The consensus is that we should use a uniform language in each component to make it easier for people to contribute code and add extensions.
**** customize banner/logo
**** customize IPR statement
**** re-establish categories - ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/2011-02/msg00012.html MikeDean's input]
**** other?
*** installation - ETA of updated OOR (v ? )
** prepare vm image
*** vm image available for download - ETA
** [[TimDarr|Tim Darr]] offer to help, some from his team of 8~10 people might get involved, most of the necessary skill sets in java programming, linux sysadmin, vmware, etc. are available


* Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... what's still needed, ETA?  
[09:40] [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]: What backend are you planning to use? The audio is distorted? What triple store?  
** (discussion 2011.06.03)'' ...


* Soliciting content (getting people to upload ontologies)
[09:42] [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]: [RayFergerson mentioned 4store as a strong candidate] Looking at 4store triple store.


* staged events planning
Will it support SPQRQL 1.1?  
** Architecture & API - VII workshop - Fri 2011.07.29 ... afterwards?
** Metadata - IV workshop - to be scheduled - date?
** Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontology and Standards" mini-series
*** ISO 19763 with [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] and [[EvanWallace|Evan Wallace]] - to be scheduled [MichaelGruninger]
*** ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability ([[OntoIOp]])" - to be scheduled [JohnBateman]
*** ... more
** updates and plans on [[BioPortal]]; what does that mean for OOR - date? - [KenBaclawski]
** OOR Metadata-IV workshop - ? - Chair: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]
** [[FactGuru|Fact Guru]] incorporation & integration?
** more on SIO ...?  


* new activities planning
[09:58] [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]: http://4store.org/ is the web site for 4store triple store.


4. '''Member activities updates:'''
[09:44] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Have to go. Cheers.  


* Review: members and OOR-related activities
[09:59] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Thanks, all! Goodbye.
** OOR-sandbox status
** code repository status
** NCBO
** NEU
** Raytheon-BBN
** Bremen
** UToronto
** Ryerson
** Mathet
** [[SOCoP_INTEROP]]
** [[DataONE]]  
** [[NeOn]] (KMi and STL)
** ONKI
they'd like to see
** KBSI
** MMI
** Use Cases
** Architecture
** API
** Gatekeeping
** production OOR instance
** SIO
** Funding
** ICOM / DERI


5. '''Funding progress:'''
[09:59] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: great sessions ... thanks, everyone!


6. '''Any Other Business:'''
[09:59] [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: -- session ended: 10:00 am PDT --


7. '''Action items:'''
-- end of chat session --


8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:  
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* Next Meeting:
=== Resources  ===
** do we break for the rest of August? ... seems like a lot of people are either on vacation or traveling (our friends from Europe, especially)
*** consensus: let's take a break for the rest of August
** revisiting the regular meeting date/time - Fridays 6:00am PDT still good for everyone?
*** let's move our weekly meetings to Tuesdays 11:30am ET / 8:30am PT / 5:30pm CET ... Peter will send a message to [oor-forum] to see if there are huge
** the next "Architecture & API - VII" workshop (championed by [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] & ToddSchneider) is going to be Tue Sep-13
** next regular OOR-team meeting will be (first Tue of Sep.) on Tue 2011.09.06 - 11:30am EDT / 8:30am PDT / 5:30pm CEST / 15:30 UTC - ref. [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20110906T0830&p1=224 worldclock] (note: that Monday is Labor Day in the US)
** ''Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr''
** ref. our doodle poll (see: http://doodle.com/a2snxkpkd8hhxek4 ), looks like we can settle in on two new meeting times - a 6:00am PT (14:00 UTC) and an 8:30am PT (16:30 UTC) (or something in between) ...
** [decision/2011.04.01] we will have an OOR team admin-planning meeting first Friday of every month; and use the other Fridays for workshops to move work forward


* Call adjourned at: 9:33 am PDT
* '''[[NCBO]] - National Center for Biomedical Ontology''' - http://www.bioontology.org/
* The '''BioPortal''' - http://bioportal.bioontology.org/
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository]]''' - Homepage for the OOR initiative
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* The OOR_SandBox (powered by the NCBO BioPortal) instance, now online at: http://sandbox.oor.net
* OOR Project site and code repository at [[SemWebCentral]] - http://oor.semwebcentral.org
* [[OpenOntologyRepository_IPR]] Policy
* 2010_09_17 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IV" Workshop - Co-chairs: Dr. [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] & Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - Panelists: Dr. [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] (Raytheon), Mr. [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] (Raytheon-BBN), Dr. Natasha Noy (NCBO, Stanford University), Dr. [[ImmanuelNormann|Immanuel Normann]] (Bremen University, BORG), Professor [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] (Northeastern University), Professor [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (University of Toronto) - [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_09_17]]
* 2009_10_15 - Thursday: "OOR-BioPortal Comparative Analysis" panel discussion - Chair: [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]] - Panelists: Natasha Noy, MichaelDorf, [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] & [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] - ConferenceCall_2009_10_15
* 2009_07_30 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "BioPortal and related Ontology Repository Implementations and Development" (Take-3) - Chair: Natasha Noy - Panelists: [[CarlosRueda|Carlos Rueda]], [[PaulAlexander|Paul Alexander]], [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], StephenGranite, AlexGarcia, [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] - ConferenceCall_2009_07_30
* 2009_02_19 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground (Take-2): the work begins" - Chair: [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]; Panelists: Mark Musen, Natasha Noy, [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[PaulBuitelaar|Paul Buitelaar]] / [[AndreasHarth|Andreas Harth]], [[MathieuDaquin|Mathieu Daquin]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] - ConferenceCall_2009_02_19
* 2008_08_22 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground: Identifying Synergies & Gaps" (Take-1) - Chair: [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]; Panelists: [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], Mark Musen, [[LiDing|Li Ding]], [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]] & [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] - ConferenceCall_2008_08_22
* 2008_04_29 - Our team made a presentation with our history, status, OOR rationale and requirements, and a proposed roadmap at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2008/FaceToFaceAgenda#nid1BLS
* 2007_12_06 - Thursday: Invited Speaker - Professor Mark Musen: "If we build it, will they come? Social-engineering of new technology to disseminate biomedical ontologies" - ConferenceCall_2007_12_06
* '''OntologySummit2008 - "Toward An Open Ontology Repository"'''
** '''[[OntologySummit2008_Communique]]'''
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** '''[[OpenOntologyRepository_Metadata]]'''
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]
* '''[[OOR/ActiveMemberContribution]]'''
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
* '''OOR Project site at [[SemWebCentral]]''' - http://oor.semwebcentral.org
** [[KathleenEllis|Kathleen Ellis]]  
* '''Public instances of OOR - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies''' (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies) ... we are in process to standing up:
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]  
** '''[[OOR_SandBox]]''' - http://oor-02.cim3.net - http://sandbox.oor.net/
** [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]  
** '''[[OOR_DevBox]]''' - http://oor-01.cim3.net - http://dev.oor.net/
** [[YuriyMilov|Yuriy Milov]]  
** [[NCBO]] - [http://bioportal.bioontology.org/ BioPortal]
** [[TimWilson|Tim Wilson]]  
*** BioPortal's [bioontology-support] mailing list - see: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/bioontology-support
** Niranjan Manjunath (NEU)
** NCBO-OOR development documentation - http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO-OOR_Development
** [[TimDarr|Tim Darr]]  
** YefimZhuk
** Gilberto Fragoso (NIH/NCI)  
** [[ChuckRehberg|Chuck Rehberg]]  
** [[ElizabethFlorescu|Elizabeth Florescu]]  
** [[JohnBateman|John Bateman]]  
** [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]  
** [[DavidHau|David Hau]]  
** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]  
** [[MyCoyne]]
** [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]  
** [[DeborahMacPherson]]  
** [[PaulCourtney|Paul Courtney]]  
** 
** ... ''if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation.''
 
* Regrets:
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]  
** [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]]  
** ...  


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Joint NCBO-OOR Panel Discussion: "Kicking-off the Next Phase of Collaboration" - Tue 13-Sep-2011

This is an important milestone for the OpenOntologyRepository initiative, and will mark a new phase of collaboration between the NCBO-BioPortal team and the OOR team. Join us to find out more on where things stand, what changes are in store, some of the vision going forward, and provide us your input.

Note that we have a hard stop at 10:00am PDT for this session. To make sure we can get the best out of the 90 minutes available for this session, we will start and end promptly on time. Please dial into the conference line a few minutes before the scheduled start time.

  • Co-chairs: Dr. RayFergerson (NCBO; Stanford) and Mr. PeterYim (OOR; Ontolog; CIM3)
  • Panelists:
    • Professor MarkMusen (NCBO; Stanford)
    • Dr. NatashaNoy (NCBO; Stanford)
    • Dr. TrishWhetzel (NCBO; Stanford)
    • Dr. LeoObrst (OOR; MITRE)
    • Professor KenBaclawski (OOR; Northeastern U)
    • Dr. ToddSchneider (OOR; Raytheon)

Agenda & Proceedings

Session Topic: "Kicking-off the Next Phase of NCBO-OOR Collaboration"

  • Session Format & Agenda: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
    • 1. Opening Remarks - Mark Musen (5 min.)
    • 2. NCBO Briefing - Ray Fergerson (20 min.) ... [ slides ]
    • 3. OOR Briefings - LeoObrst-PeterYim, KenBaclawski-ToddSchneider (2 presentations, 10 min. each)
    • 3. Q & A and open discussion - All (30 min.) ... please refer to process above
    • 4. Conclusion / Follow-up - co-chairs

Abstracts

This is an important milestone for the OpenOntologyRepository initiative, and will mark a new phase of collaboration between the NCBO-BioPortal team and the OOR team.
Professor Mark Musen, Principal Investigator of NCBO, and a staunch supporter of the OOR initiative will kick-off this session for us. His opening will be followed by briefings from both the NCBO-BioPortal team and the OOR team. The briefings will include reports on the current status, important changes and plans that are underway, and how the teams see things both at a high-level (vision, strategy, ...) and low-level (tactics, implementations, coding, operations, ...) going forward.
The breifings will be followed by an extended discussion among the panelists and all participants at this session, where we hope to be able to collect input from the community on their expectations, as well as insights on how we can get the best synergy from this next phase of the NCBO-OOR collaboration.
Come join us at this session to find out more on where things stand, what changes are in store, some of the vision going forward, and provide us your input.

Transcript of the online chat during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

[08:19] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

Joint NCBO-OOR Panel Discussion - Tue 13-Sep-2011

Topic: : "Kicking-off the Next Phase of NCBO-OOR Collaboration"

Co-chairs: Dr. Ray Fergerson (NCBO; Stanford) and Mr. Peter P. Yim (OOR; Ontolog; CIM3)

Panelists:

Professor Mark Musen (NCBO; Stanford)

Dr. Natasha Noy (NCBO; Stanford)

Dr. Trish Whetzel (NCBO; Stanford)

Dr. Leo Obrst (OOR; MITRE)

Professor Ken Baclawski (OOR; Northeastern U)

Dr. Todd Schneider (OOR; Raytheon)

Please refer to details on session page

at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_09_13

Participants will be muted before session starts

To unmute phone: press *3 ... to put phone on mute again: *2

.

Proceedings

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[08:22] Mike Dean: I'll need to drop off around 12:10, but will lurk until then

[08:24] Peter P. Yim: Hi Mike ... thanks for being here

[08:26] Todd Schneider: Peter, I may need to leave after the first hour. I'll try and stay as long as possible.

[08:27] anonymous morphed into Tim Wilson

[08:28] Tim Wilson: Will there be sound on "hopper"? Does the VNC have sound?

[08:59] Peter P. Yim: @Tim - the HOPPER server (i.e. vnc2) is only for screen sharing ... no voice support

[08:28] anonymous morphed into Niranjan Manjunath

[08:30] anonymous morphed into Ray Fergerson

[08:30] Kathy Ellis2 morphed into Kathy Ellis

[08:32] anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu

[08:36] Todd Schneider: Peter, I'm having phone issues.

[08:37] Ken Baclawski: Todd, let me know if you need me to take over for you in our talk.

[08:38] Todd Schneider: Ken, I now have a voice connection.

[08:36] anonymous morphed into Chuck Rehberg

[08:38] anonymous morphed into Dave Hau (NCI) [DavidHau]

[08:40] Todd Schneider: Ray, can you speak louder?

[08:40] anonymous morphed into Frank Olken

[08:44] anonymous morphed into MyCoyne

[08:53] Frank Olken: I still did not catch which RDF triple store is being used.

[08:53] Peter P. Yim: @Frank - let's ask Ray during the discussion later

[08:54] anonymous morphed into YefimZhuk

[08:40] pradeep: not able to dial from south korea

[08:40] pradeep: any help? sorry

[08:52] Peter P. Yim: @pradeep - besides the US conference nbr, can you try some of the other (EU) phone numbers?

[09:04] pradeep: @PeterYim tried all the numbers not able to connect. Will wait for the audio files.

Any possibility of using skype ? I am highly interested in the talk please help me.

[09:05] Peter P. Yim: @pradeep - too bad ... the audio archive will be ready in a couple of days

[09:02] YefimZhuk: Ray, thanks for a very informative talk! which RDF Triplestore do you use in the BioPortal?

[09:06] Chuck Rehberg: I need to leave - he can have my phone line

[09:06] Peter P. Yim: @Chuck - thanks ... it's not the limitation of lines that is the problem, unfortunately

[09:10] pradeep: @PeterYim thank you.

[09:13] John Bateman: @Todd: multiple representation languages: +10 :-)

[09:13] Peter P. Yim: @JohnBateman - that's where you guys come in!

[09:14] Todd Schneider: John, support for multiple representation languages requires the independence of the functionality.

[09:21] Leo Obrst: Ray, Mark, can you elaborate a bit on what you envision for licensing ontologies?

[09:40] Frank Olken: What backend are you planning to use? The audio is distorted? What triple store?

[09:42] Frank Olken: [RayFergerson mentioned 4store as a strong candidate] Looking at 4store triple store.

Will it support SPQRQL 1.1?

[09:58] Frank Olken: http://4store.org/ is the web site for 4store triple store.

[09:44] Todd Schneider: Have to go. Cheers.

[09:59] Leo Obrst: Thanks, all! Goodbye.

[09:59] Peter P. Yim: great sessions ... thanks, everyone!

[09:59] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 10:00 am PDT --

-- end of chat session --

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Resources

Audio Recording of this Session

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  • Conference Date and Time: 13-Sep-2011 8:30am ~ 10:00pm Pacific Daylight Time
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