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= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: [[OOR]] Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-03-21 =
= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: [[OOR]] Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-04-04 =


* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository]] team conference call, Wed 2008.03.21, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 17:00 GMT/UTC'''  
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository]] team conference call, Wed 2008.04.04, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC'''  


=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===


* Date: '''Friday, March 21, 2008 '''  
* Date: '''Friday, April 4, 2008 '''  
* Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
* Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=14&year=2008&hour=9&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=4&year=2008&hour=9&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours  
* Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours  
* Dial-in Number:  
* Dial-in Number:  
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*** UK 0870-738-0763  
*** UK 0870-738-0763  
** callers '''from other countries''' please dial into either one of the US or European numbers  
** callers '''from other countries''' please dial into either one of the US or European numbers  
* Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
** view-only password: "ontolog"
* Please review our Virtual Session Tips and Ground Rules - see: [[VirtualSpeakerSessionTips]]
* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14#nid1BE5 below] regarding our in-session discussion and Q & A process


* '''RSVP''' ''to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated.''  
* '''RSVP''' ''to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated.''  


* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21
* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04


* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].  
* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].  
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* Attended:  
* Attended:  
** [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]]  
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] (chair)
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
** [[MichelleRaymond|Michelle Raymond]]  
** [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]  
** [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]  
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]  
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]  
** [[GerryCreager|Gerry Creager]]
** [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]  


* Expecting:  
* Expecting:  
** ... ''to register for participation, please add your name (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation.'' ...
** ''(please add yourself to the list or rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>)''  


* Regets:  
* Regrets:  
** Gerry Creager (on Spring break)
** [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]


== Agenda Ideas  ==
== Agenda Ideas  ==
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* ''(please insert content below; identify yourself for follow-up purposes)''  
* ''(please insert content below; identify yourself for follow-up purposes)''  


* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: status review on the 3 upcoming joint [[OOR]]-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10)
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: postmortem on the 3/27 & 4/3 joint [[OOR]]-OntologySummit2008 panel discussions, and status review on the upcoming 4/10 session
 
* [[FarrukhNajmi|Farrukh Najmi]]: funding, then (in small teams) use cases and requirements, and then (more small teams) Architecture, Standards, Technologies and implementation. - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2008-02/msg00077.html
 
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: this OOR-team's deliverable at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] face-to-face workshop (28~29-Apr-2008)


* discuss the relationship of this initiative to other organizations like Ontolog, sponsors, funders, etc.  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: further discussion on this OOR-team's deliverable at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] workshop (28~29-Apr-2008) at NIST (Gaithersburg, MD, USA), and other things we might want to do when we meet face-to-face there.  


== Agenda and Proceedings  ==
== Agenda and Proceedings  ==
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1. Meeting called to order:  
1. Meeting called to order:  


* [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] took the chair and welcomed everyone  
* [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] took the chair and welcomed everyone  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take minutes of the meeting  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take minutes of the meeting  


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2. Roll Call:  
2. Roll Call:  


* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21#nid1BV9 above]  
* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04#nid1DBH above]  


3. Status Review and Discussion:  
3. Status Review and Discussion:  
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* '''Discussions:'''  
* '''Discussions:'''  


* Fabian suggests we clarify the distinction between the summit discourse and the final adoption into the OOR development effort by the OOR-team.  
* postmortem on the 3/27 & 4/3 joint [[OOR]]-OntologySummit2008 panel discussions
** He will make a post to let the community know that if we have all the options covered on one issue (ref. "gatekeeping" for example), we can move on to the next issue
** See the "OOR: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements" session proceedings at:
*** ConferenceCall_2008_03_27 &
*** ConferenceCall_2008_04_03
*** Peter: the diversity of perspectives and the collaborative spirit are absolutely commendable.
** reminding OOR-Panelists to send in their 2-slide summaries
** reminding content people to send in their 3 top requirements per Leo's request
** Michelle: will cull the discussions and fold "requirements" into the [repository-architecture] topic thread
** Peter: I invited [[RobRaskin|Rob Raskin]] (NASA/JPL - [[SWEET]] ontologies & [http://PlanetOnt.org PlanetOnt.org]) to the team, and he has agreed. We'll be seeing him at the 4/28~29 face-to-face.  
** [[DougLenat|Doug Lenat]] (on his 4/3 talk) alluded to the Large Knowledge Collider ([[LarKC]]) project from the EU, we should consider making contact with the people driving this initiative to explore possible synergies. Anyone close to them?
*** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] tasked to make contact the [[LarKC]] people as he deems appropriate


* Preparation progress review on the 3 upcoming joint [[OOR]]-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10):
* status review on the upcoming 4/10 session
** see developing working page - [[OOR/JointPanelSession_Strawman]]
** things are coming along fine. See developing agenda at ConferenceCall_2008_04_10
** Leo & Fabian confirmed that they will co-chair both the 3/27 & 4/3 panels on "expectation and requirements."


* '''Resources and Funding:'''  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: further discussion on this OOR-team's deliverable at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] workshop (28~29-Apr-2008) at NIST (Gaithersburg, MD, USA), and other things we might want to do when we meet face-to-face there. ... (discussion from last meeting)--v
** '''target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] workshop''
** Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12
** Farrukh: this is too short a time to get a demo together; maybe we should only consider developing a demo scenario, and present the OOR-team's Strategy, Plans and Roadmap
*** Rex: is it possible to show something tangible too?
*** Farrukh: let's present the 'what', not the 'how'
*** presenting the vision at the summit F2F
*** Bruce: let's present something we have accomplished rather than something we are planning to accomplish
*** Michelle: will clarify time allocation at F2F - put in a 1.5-Hr request '''<--adopted'''
*** Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter
*** Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat
*** Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker '''<--adopted'''
**** '''updated'''/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] and [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
**** Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) '''<--adopted'''
*** Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary  '''<--adopted'''
**** all speakers are requested to send in a 2-slide summary of their brief (in addition to the slide deck they use during the briefing) for use in a presentation that the OOR-team will be making at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] face-to-face workshop
*** Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation
*** Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale '''<--adopted'''
**** maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)
*** therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours
*** Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there
*** Farrukh: we need to clarify that we are NOT advocating a single central repository ... federation is where we are going
** '''new!''' - the summit organizing committee is bringing up the possibility of making arrangements (or alloting time) for doing demos again! Mark Musen suggested that this is one of the things that we can do much better at a F2F than doing virtually. Given that, what can/should this team come up with.
*** Peter: ALL, please watch out on the [ontology-summit] & [oor-forum] list for more details as the organizing committee decides on whether or not, and how, we will be serving demos
*** Mike: if so, suggest we setup a page where people could register their intent to show demos
*** Ravi: need to communicate with NIST ref. firewall issues that may affect the demos
*** [[GerryCreager|Gerry Creager]] mentioned that he is working on coming to the F2F, and its possible for him to run a demo of their current work (which [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]] has alluded to this group before.)
 
* '''Resources and Funding:''' - ''mostly from previous discussions''  


* Funding: getting organized  
* Funding: getting organized  
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** Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.  
** Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.  
** '''we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F'''  
** '''we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F'''  
*** Mike will help see if Todd Hughes and other relevant program managers could join us there at the summit F2F.
*** idea: [OT] have a bulletin board to help bring together BOF gatherings


* '''Use Cases & Requirements''' <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
* '''Use Cases & Requirements'''  
** soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.  
** soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.  
** see above discussion ref. the two upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27 & 4/2)  
** see above discussion ref. the two joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel discussion sessions (3/27 & 4/3)  


* Organization & Process  
* Organization & Process <--will defer the discussion after the summit workshop
** '''need to clearly identify team membership''': active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?  
** '''need to clearly identify team membership''': active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?  
*** Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to  provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)  
*** Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to  provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)  
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** relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?  
** relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?  
*** discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding)  
*** discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding)  
* Deliverables:  <--(discussion from last meeting)
** '''target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] workshop''
** Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12
** Farrukh: this is too short a time to get a demo together; maybe we should only consider developing a demo scenario, and present the OOR-team's Strategy, Plans and Roadmap
*** Rex: is it possible to show something tangible too?
*** Farrukh: let's present the 'what', not the 'how'
*** presenting the vision at the summit F2F
*** Bruce: let's present something we have accomplished rather than something we are planning to accomplish
*** Michelle: will clarify time allocation at F2F - put in a 1.5-Hr request '''<--adopted'''
*** Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter
*** Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat
*** Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker '''<--adopted'''
**** '''updated'''/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] and [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
**** Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) '''<--adopted'''
*** Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary  '''<--adopted'''
**** all speakers are requested to send in a 2-slide summary of their brief (in addition to the slide deck they use during the briefing) for use in a presentation that the OOR-team will be making at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] face-to-face workshop
*** Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation
*** Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale '''<--adopted'''
**** maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)
*** therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours
*** Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there
*** Farrukh: we need to clarify that we are NOT advocating a single central repository ... federation is where we are going


* Timeline / Milestones: <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)  
* Timeline / Milestones: <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)  
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* Next Meeting:  
* Next Meeting:  
** resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
** resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
** Next meeting - Fri 2008.04.04 1-Hr. starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC - [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=4&year=2008&hour=9&min=00&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** Next meeting - Fri 2008.04.18 1-Hr. starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC - [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=18&year=2008&hour=9&min=00&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
*** refer to details at the wiki session page (closer to the time) at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04
*** refer to details at the wiki session page (closer to the time) at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_18
*** this will be the last conference call before the summit F2F (4/28~29)


* Call adjourned at: 10:16 am PST  
* Call adjourned at: 10:17 am PST  


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notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2008.03.21-10:27am PDT
notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2008.04.04-10:20am PDT


All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity  of the documented proceedings.  
All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity  of the documented proceedings.  
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** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21]]
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|OOR Charter]]''' - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.  
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|OOR Charter]]''' - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.  
* '''"Ontology Repository" Definition''' - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"  
* '''"Ontology Repository" Definition''' - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"  
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* '''OntologySummit2008''' homepage  
* '''OntologySummit2008''' homepage  
* '''[ontology-summit]''' discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/  
* '''[ontology-summit]''' discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/  
== Discussion Process  ==
* '''Please mute your phone, by pressing "*2"''' on your phone keypad, when the talk is in progress. '''To un-mute, press "*3"'''
* '''If you want to speak''' or have questions or remarks to make, '''please "raise your hand (virtually)" by pressing "11"''' on your phone keypad. You may speak when acknowledged by the speaker or the session moderator.
* You can also '''type in your questions or comments through the browser''' based  [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_01|chat tool]] by:
** point a separate browser tab (or window) to http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room and enter: Room="'''ontolog_20080314'''" and My Name="Your Own Name" (e.g. "JaneDoe")
** or point your browser to: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20080314
*** instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.
* For those who have further questions or remarks on the topic, please post them to the [oor-forum] list so that everyone in the community can benefit from the discourse. (One needs to be subscribed to this archived mailing list first before posting. See subscription details [[OpenOntologyRepository|here]].)


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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-04-04

  • OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Wed 2008.04.04, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Friday, April 4, 2008
  • Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
  • Dial-in Number:
    • Direct call from from Skype: +990008275823120
    • When calling in from a phone, use Conference ID: "5823120#"
    • from a US telephone (US): +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)
    • from Europe, call:
      • Austria 0820-4000-1574
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      • Spain 0902-886-051
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      • UK 0870-738-0763
    • callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • (please add yourself to the list or rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>)

Agenda Ideas

  • (please insert content below; identify yourself for follow-up purposes)
  • Peter P. Yim: postmortem on the 3/27 & 4/3 joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel discussions, and status review on the upcoming 4/10 session
  • Peter P. Yim: further discussion on this OOR-team's deliverable at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop (28~29-Apr-2008) at NIST (Gaithersburg, MD, USA), and other things we might want to do when we meet face-to-face there.

Agenda and Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

3. Status Review and Discussion:

  • What's New:
  • Logistics and Communications
  • Discussions:
  • postmortem on the 3/27 & 4/3 joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel discussions
    • See the "OOR: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements" session proceedings at:
      • ConferenceCall_2008_03_27 &
      • ConferenceCall_2008_04_03
      • Peter: the diversity of perspectives and the collaborative spirit are absolutely commendable.
    • reminding OOR-Panelists to send in their 2-slide summaries
    • reminding content people to send in their 3 top requirements per Leo's request
    • Michelle: will cull the discussions and fold "requirements" into the [repository-architecture] topic thread
    • Peter: I invited Rob Raskin (NASA/JPL - SWEET ontologies & PlanetOnt.org) to the team, and he has agreed. We'll be seeing him at the 4/28~29 face-to-face.
    • Doug Lenat (on his 4/3 talk) alluded to the Large Knowledge Collider (LarKC) project from the EU, we should consider making contact with the people driving this initiative to explore possible synergies. Anyone close to them?
      • Mike Dean tasked to make contact the LarKC people as he deems appropriate
  • status review on the upcoming 4/10 session
    • things are coming along fine. See developing agenda at ConferenceCall_2008_04_10
  • Peter P. Yim: further discussion on this OOR-team's deliverable at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop (28~29-Apr-2008) at NIST (Gaithersburg, MD, USA), and other things we might want to do when we meet face-to-face there. ... (discussion from last meeting)--v
    • 'target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop
    • Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12
    • Farrukh: this is too short a time to get a demo together; maybe we should only consider developing a demo scenario, and present the OOR-team's Strategy, Plans and Roadmap
      • Rex: is it possible to show something tangible too?
      • Farrukh: let's present the 'what', not the 'how'
      • presenting the vision at the summit F2F
      • Bruce: let's present something we have accomplished rather than something we are planning to accomplish
      • Michelle: will clarify time allocation at F2F - put in a 1.5-Hr request <--adopted
      • Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter
      • Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat
      • Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker <--adopted
        • updated/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - Leo Obrst, Mike Dean and Peter P. Yim to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
        • Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) <--adopted
      • Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary <--adopted
        • all speakers are requested to send in a 2-slide summary of their brief (in addition to the slide deck they use during the briefing) for use in a presentation that the OOR-team will be making at the Ontology Summit 2008 face-to-face workshop
      • Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation
      • Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale <--adopted
        • maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)
      • therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours
      • Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there
      • Farrukh: we need to clarify that we are NOT advocating a single central repository ... federation is where we are going
    • new! - the summit organizing committee is bringing up the possibility of making arrangements (or alloting time) for doing demos again! Mark Musen suggested that this is one of the things that we can do much better at a F2F than doing virtually. Given that, what can/should this team come up with.
      • Peter: ALL, please watch out on the [ontology-summit] & [oor-forum] list for more details as the organizing committee decides on whether or not, and how, we will be serving demos
      • Mike: if so, suggest we setup a page where people could register their intent to show demos
      • Ravi: need to communicate with NIST ref. firewall issues that may affect the demos
      • Gerry Creager mentioned that he is working on coming to the F2F, and its possible for him to run a demo of their current work (which John Graybeal has alluded to this group before.)
  • Resources and Funding: - mostly from previous discussions
  • Funding: getting organized
    • possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility);   
    • grant proposal team(s) / submit proposal(s) to
    • Frank: NSF next solicitations due July-1, interop, data network partners, programs coming back
      • consider NSF-OCI (Office of Cyber Infrastructure)
    • try contacting Todd Hughes and see if DARPA is a possibility (Leo)
    • Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation
    • consider Foundations, and institutions like Vulcan (Peter).
      • Peter: Mark G already responded that funding chances are low, but possibility of collaboration with HALO ontologies hosted on OOR
    • Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.
    • we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F
      • Mike will help see if Todd Hughes and other relevant program managers could join us there at the summit F2F.
      • idea: [OT] have a bulletin board to help bring together BOF gatherings
  • Use Cases & Requirements
    • soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.
    • see above discussion ref. the two joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel discussion sessions (3/27 & 4/3)
  • Organization & Process <--will defer the discussion after the summit workshop
    • need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?
      • Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)
      • will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list
    • how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
    • relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?
      • discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding)
  • Timeline / Milestones: <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)

4. New Issues:

5. Any Other Business:

6. Action items:

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meeting:
    • resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC
    • Next meeting - Fri 2008.04.18 1-Hr. starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC - World Clock
  • Call adjourned at: 10:17 am PST

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2008.04.04-10:20am PDT

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