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= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: OOR Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-03-14 =
= [[OpenOntologyRepository]]: [[OOR]] Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-03-21 =


* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository]] team conference call, Wed 2008.03.14, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 17:00 GMT/UTC'''  
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository]] team conference call, Wed 2008.03.21, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 17:00 GMT/UTC'''  


=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===


* Date: '''Friday, March 14, 2008 '''  
* Date: '''Friday, March 21, 2008 '''  
* Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
* Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=14&year=2008&hour=9&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=14&year=2008&hour=9&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
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* '''RSVP''' ''to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated.''  
* '''RSVP''' ''to [mailto:peter.yim@cim3.com peter.yim@cim3.com] appreciated.''  


* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14
* This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21


* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].  
* Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under [[WikiHomePage#Intellectual_Property_Rights_.28IPR.29_Policy|our prevailing open IPR policy]].  
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** [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]  
** [[FabianNeuhaus|Fabian Neuhaus]]  
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]  
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]  
** [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]  
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]  
** [[FarrukhNajmi|Farrukh Najmi]]
** [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
** [[JohnSowa|John F. Sowa]]
** [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]
** [[JohnGraybeal|John Graybeal]]
** [[DeniseBedford|Denise Bedford]]
** [[MichelleRaymond|Michelle Raymond]]
** [[EvanWallace|Evan Wallace]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]


* Expecting:  
* Expecting:  
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2. Roll Call:  
2. Roll Call:  


* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14#nid1BBS above]  
* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21#nid1BV9 above]  


3. Status Review and Discussion:  
3. Status Review and Discussion:  
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* '''Discussions:'''  
* '''Discussions:'''  


* Preparation progress review on the 3 upcoming joint [[OOR]]-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27. 4/3 & 4/10):  
* Fabian suggests we clarify the distinction between the summit discourse and the final adoption into the OOR development effort by the OOR-team.
** one panel discussion on ontology developers and stewards' (i.e. early-adopter content-provider) requirements & expectations?
** He will make a post to let the community know that if we have all the options covered on one issue (ref. "gatekeeping" for example), we can move on to the next issue
*** 
 
*** 2 sessions - 3/27, 4/3
* Preparation progress review on the 3 upcoming joint [[OOR]]-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10):  
*** Fabian: suggest changing the "Why We Need an Open Ontology Repository?" title to something that better reflects what we want the panelists to be telling us.
** see developing working page - [[OOR/JointPanelSession_Strawman]]  
**** [[JohnSowa|John F. Sowa]]: how about updating the original "Requirements and Expectation in an Open Ontology Repository" to "An Open Ontology Repository: Expectations & Requirements" (to avoid the grammatical issue)
** Leo & Fabian confirmed that they will co-chair both the 3/27 & 4/3 panels on "expectation and requirements."
*** session title discussed and finally revised to: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements" '''<--adopted'''
** another panel discussion on ontology-of-ontology?
*** candidates: [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Gr&uuml;ninger]] (2007 summit framework), [[PeterHaase|Peter Haase]] (OMV), Natasha Noy (BioPortal), [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] or [[EvanWallace|Evan Wallace]] (OMG related work)
*** session on 4/10
*** to be chaired by [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]]
** Peter will work on this offline and report back
** developing working page - [[OOR/JointPanelSession_Strawman]]


* '''Resources and Funding:'''  
* '''Resources and Funding:'''  
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** Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation  
** Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation  
** consider Foundations, and institutions like Vulcan (Peter).  
** consider Foundations, and institutions like Vulcan (Peter).  
*** Peter: Mark G already responded that funding chances are low, but possibility of collaboration with HALO ontologies hosted on OOR
** Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.
** '''we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F'''


* '''Use Cases & Requirements'''  
* '''Use Cases & Requirements''' <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
** soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.  
** soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.  
** see above discussion ref. the two upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27 & 4/2)  
** see above discussion ref. the two upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27 & 4/2)  


* Organization & Process <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
* Organization & Process  
** how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many?  
** '''need to clearly identify team membership''': active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?
*** Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to  provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)
*** will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list
** how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
** relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?  
** relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?  
*** discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding)


* Deliverables:  
* Deliverables: <--(discussion from last meeting)
** '''target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] workshop''  
** '''target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the [[OntologySummit2008|Ontology Summit 2008]] workshop''  
** Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12  
** Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12  
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*** Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter  
*** Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter  
*** Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat  
*** Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat  
*** Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter, Mike too (later confirmed)to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker '''<--adopted'''  
*** Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker '''<--adopted'''  
**** '''updated'''/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]] and [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
**** Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) '''<--adopted'''  
**** Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) '''<--adopted'''  
*** Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary  '''<--adopted'''  
*** Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary  '''<--adopted'''  
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*** Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation  
*** Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation  
*** Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale '''<--adopted'''  
*** Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale '''<--adopted'''  
**** Michelle: maybe we can call item (i) "Value proposition" (which is business speak)  
**** maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)  
*** therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours  
*** therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours  
*** Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there  
*** Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there  
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* Next Meeting:  
* Next Meeting:  
** resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
** resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
** Next meeting - Fri 2008.03.21 1-Hr. starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC - [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=21&year=2008&hour=9&min=00&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** Next meeting - Fri 2008.04.04 1-Hr. starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC - [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=4&year=2008&hour=9&min=00&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
*** refer to details at the wiki session page (closer to the time) at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21
*** refer to details at the wiki session page (closer to the time) at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04


* Call adjourned at: 11:01 am PST  
* Call adjourned at: 10:16 am PST  


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notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2008.03.14-11:02am PDT
notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2008.03.21-10:27am PDT


All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity  of the documented proceedings.  
All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity  of the documented proceedings.  
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** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_02_13]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_02_13]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05]]  
** [[OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14]]
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|OOR Charter]]''' - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.  
* '''[[OpenOntologyRepository|OOR Charter]]''' - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.  
* '''"Ontology Repository" Definition''' - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"  
* '''"Ontology Repository" Definition''' - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"  

Latest revision as of 07:20, 9 January 2016

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-03-21

  • OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Wed 2008.03.21, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 17:00 GMT/UTC

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Friday, March 21, 2008
  • Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
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  • Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
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  • see below regarding our in-session discussion and Q & A process
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ... to register for participation, please add your name (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...
  • Regets:
    • Gerry Creager (on Spring break)

Agenda Ideas

  • (please insert content below; identify yourself for follow-up purposes)
  • Peter P. Yim: status review on the 3 upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10)
  • discuss the relationship of this initiative to other organizations like Ontolog, sponsors, funders, etc.

Agenda and Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

3. Status Review and Discussion:

  • What's New:
  • Logistics and Communications
  • Discussions:
  • Fabian suggests we clarify the distinction between the summit discourse and the final adoption into the OOR development effort by the OOR-team.
    • He will make a post to let the community know that if we have all the options covered on one issue (ref. "gatekeeping" for example), we can move on to the next issue
  • Preparation progress review on the 3 upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10):
    • see developing working page - OOR/JointPanelSession_Strawman
    • Leo & Fabian confirmed that they will co-chair both the 3/27 & 4/3 panels on "expectation and requirements."
  • Resources and Funding:
  • Funding: getting organized
    • possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility);   
    • grant proposal team(s) / submit proposal(s) to
    • Frank: NSF next solicitations due July-1, interop, data network partners, programs coming back
      • consider NSF-OCI (Office of Cyber Infrastructure)
    • try contacting Todd Hughes and see if DARPA is a possibility (Leo)
    • Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation
    • consider Foundations, and institutions like Vulcan (Peter).
      • Peter: Mark G already responded that funding chances are low, but possibility of collaboration with HALO ontologies hosted on OOR
    • Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.
    • we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F
  • Use Cases & Requirements <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
    • soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.
    • see above discussion ref. the two upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27 & 4/2)
  • Organization & Process
    • need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?
      • Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)
      • will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list
    • how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
    • relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?
      • discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding)
  • Deliverables: <--(discussion from last meeting)
    • 'target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop
    • Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12
    • Farrukh: this is too short a time to get a demo together; maybe we should only consider developing a demo scenario, and present the OOR-team's Strategy, Plans and Roadmap
      • Rex: is it possible to show something tangible too?
      • Farrukh: let's present the 'what', not the 'how'
      • presenting the vision at the summit F2F
      • Bruce: let's present something we have accomplished rather than something we are planning to accomplish
      • Michelle: will clarify time allocation at F2F - put in a 1.5-Hr request <--adopted
      • Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter
      • Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat
      • Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker <--adopted
        • updated/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - Leo Obrst, Mike Dean and Peter P. Yim to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
        • Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) <--adopted
      • Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary <--adopted
        • all speakers are requested to send in a 2-slide summary of their brief (in addition to the slide deck they use during the briefing) for use in a presentation that the OOR-team will be making at the Ontology Summit 2008 face-to-face workshop
      • Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation
      • Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale <--adopted
        • maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)
      • therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours
      • Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there
      • Farrukh: we need to clarify that we are NOT advocating a single central repository ... federation is where we are going
  • Timeline / Milestones: <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)

4. New Issues:

5. Any Other Business:

6. Action items:

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Call adjourned at: 10:16 am PST

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2008.03.21-10:27am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.


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