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Joint RulesReasoningLP (s05) and OntologyBasedStandards (s07) mini-series session - Thu 2014_01_09     (1)

Program: A Joint session for the Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications (RulesReasoningLP) mini-series and the OntologyBasedStandards mini-series     (1A)

Topic: Rule Standards: CommonLogic, RuleML, and RIF     (1B)

Session Co-chairs: Professor HaroldBoley (U of New Brunswick), Mr. MikeDean (Raytheon BBN Technologies) & Professor AdrianPaschke (Freie Universität Berlin) ... intro slides     (1C)

Panelists / Briefings:     (1D)

  • Dial-in:     (1I4)
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Attendees     (1J)

  • Expecting:     (1J2)
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)     (1J2B)

Abstract     (1K)

Rule Standards: CommonLogic, RuleML, and RIF ... intro slides     (1K1)

This is the 5th session of the RulesReasoningLP mini-series - a series of virtual panel sessions, and the associated online discourse, co-championed by some members of the Ontolog community who value the importance of the subject matter and would want to bring together those who are knowledgeable or interested into a dialog. The mini-series program will cover the topics that encapsulates the ontology-driven applications that will generally fall under "Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications."     (1K2)

The focus of this session is on standards for rule languages. Panelists include Michael Grüninger (Common Logic Second Edition), AdrianPaschke (The RuleML Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards), and MichaelKifer (The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects).     (1K3)

After the panelists briefings, there will be time for Q&A and an open discussion among the panel and all the participants.     (1K4)

See more details at: RulesReasoningLP (homepage for this mini-series)     (1K5)

Briefings     (1K6)

model-theoretic semantics is an extension of first-order logic Since its publication as an International Standard in 2007, numerous applications of Common Logic have led to the identification of several problems and shortcomings of the language. This talk will give an overview of the current draft for the Second Edition of Common Logic that addresses these issues.     (1K6B)

  • Professor AdrianPaschke (Freie Universität Berlin) - "The RuleML Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards" - slides     (1K6C)
    • Abstract: RuleML is a family of XML languages whose modular system of schemas permits (Web) rule interchange via semantic profiles and extensions. The Deliberation RuleML subfamily, bridging between Common Logic and RIF, includes Datalog, Horn logic, and First Order Logic. The Reaction RuleML subfamily, extending these standards, includes Production / Condition-Action (CA) and Event-Condition-Action (ECA) rules, the latter allowing Complex Event Processing (CEP). The MYNG tool permits fine-grained schema modularization supporting customized configuration of deliberation-reaction sublanguages within a standardized supremum language family. Translators in Java, ANTLR, and XSLT allow rule interchange between various languages. We discuss RuleML's bridging experience as the rule community is gaining new momentum.     (1K6C1)
    • Reference: see (slides for) an extended version of this presentation here     (1K6C2)
  • Professor MichaelKifer (Stony Brook University) - "The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects" - slides     (1K6D)
    • Abstract: The Rule Interchange Format (RIF) is a W3C recommendation for exchanging     (1K6D1)

rules over the Web. It was developed in response to the need for rule-based information processing on the Semantic Web. Despite its humble name, RIF is not just a format and is not primarily about syntax. It is an extensible framework for rule-based languages, called RIF dialects. It includes precise and formal specification of the syntax, semantics, and XML serialization of the dialects. In this talk I will discuss the main principles behind RIF, introduce the RIF extensibility framework, discuss the existing RIF dialects, and ponder about the current status of the standard.     (1K6E)

Agenda     (1L)

Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call     (1L2)
  • 1. Session opening: introductions - co-chairs: HaroldBoley, Mike Dean & AdrianPaschke (10 min.) ... slides     (1L3)
  • 2. Panel Briefings - MichaelGruninger, AdrianPaschke, MichaelKifer (18~20 min. ea)     (1L4)
  • 3. Open discussion - ALL (20 min.) ... ref. process above     (1L5)
  • 4. Wrap-up - co-chairs: HaroldBoley, Mike Dean & AdrianPaschke     (1L6)

Proceedings     (1M)

Please refer to the above ... (details coming!)     (1M1)

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session    (1M2)

see raw transcript here.     (1M2A)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1M2B)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1M2C)

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --     (1M2D)


Chat transcript from room: ontolog_20140109     (1M2E)

2014-01-09 GMT-08:00 [PST]     (1M2F)


[9:15] PeterYim: Welcome to the     (1M2G)

Joint RulesReasoningLP (s05) and OntologyBasedStandards (s07) mini-series session - 2014_01_09     (1M2H)

Program: A Joint session for the Ontology, Rules, and Logic Programming for Reasoning and Applications     (1M2I)

(RulesReasoningLP) mini-series and the OntologyBasedStandards mini-series     (1M2J)

Topic: Rule Standards: CommonLogic, RuleML, and RIF     (1M2K)

Session Co-chairs:     (1M2L)

Panelists / Briefings:     (1M2P)

  • Professor AdrianPaschke (RuleML; Freie Universität Berlin) - "The RuleML Perspective on Deliberation-Reaction Standards"     (1M2R)
  • Professor MichaelKifer (W3C/RIF; Stony Brook University) - "The Rule Interchange Format and Its Dialects"     (1M2S)

Logistics:     (1M2T)

  • (if you haven't already done so) please click on "settings" (top center) and morph from "anonymous" to your RealName     (1M2V)
  • Mute control (phone keypad): *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute     (1M2W)

(i.e. even if it says it is "offline," you should still be able to connect to it.)     (1M2Z)

VoIP line, etc.) either your phone, skype-out or google-voice and call the US dial-in number: +1 (206) 402-0100     (1M2AB)

... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#     (1M2AC)

if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it.     (1M2AG)

Attendees: AdrianPaschke, AlexShkotin, AliHashemi, AmandaVizedom, AnatolyLevenchuk,     (1M2AH)

AndreaWesterinen, BenjaminGrosof, BiplabSarker, BobKowalski, BobbinTeegarden, ConradBock,     (1M2AI)

DennisPierson, ElizabethFlorescu, FrankOlken, GenZou, HaroldBoley, HassanAitKaci, HensonGraves,     (1M2AJ)

JoelBender, JohnMcClure, JonathanBona, KenBaclawski, LeoObrst, MarwanGhabin, MichaelGruninger,     (1M2AK)

MichaelKifer, MikeBennett, MikeDean, NancyWiegand, PaulFodor, PaulTyson, PeteRivett, PeterYim,     (1M2AL)

PieterPauwels, Pipauwel, RexBrooks, RoyBell, SteveMandl, TaraAthan, ToddPehle, ToddSchneider,     (1M2AM)

TomTinsley, VictorAgroskin,     (1M2AN)

[9:06] anonymous morphed into Pipauwel     (1M2AP)

[9:16] PeterYim: hello, Pipauwel ... Welcome! ... please morph into your RealName (in wikiword     (1M2AQ)

format) via the "Settings" button/link ... thank you.     (1M2AR)

[9:19] anonymous morphed into AndreaWesterinen     (1M2AS)

[9:23] Pipauwel morphed into PieterPauwels     (1M2AT)

[9:23] PieterPauwels: okay, just did that     (1M2AU)

[9:23] PieterPauwels: thank you     (1M2AV)

[9:26] PeterYim: Thank you, Pieter     (1M2AW)

[9:28] anonymous morphed into AmandaVizedom     (1M2AX)

[9:31] anonymous morphed into ConradBock     (1M2AY)

[9:31] MikeBennett: [ref. Peter;s verbal comment that the "hum" on the line may have been introduced     (1M2AZ)

by Mike] I am muted locally buzz isn't me?     (1M2AAA)

[9:31] MikeBennett: I'll redial     (1M2AAB)

[9:32] MikeBennett: Did it stop? Was using joiconference     (1M2AAC)

[9:32] AmandaVizedom: phew!     (1M2AAD)

[9:32] AmandaVizedom: It did stop, Mike     (1M2AAE)

[9:32] MikeBennett: Odd. I could hear it too, which is odd if one is the originator of a noise.     (1M2AAF)

[9:32] anonymous morphed into TaraAthan     (1M2AAG)

[9:33] anonymous morphed into PaulTyson     (1M2AAH)

[9:33] anonymous morphed into AdrianPaschke     (1M2AAI)

[9:34] anonymous2 morphed into MichaelKifer     (1M2AAJ)

[9:34] AliHashemi morphed into AliHashemi     (1M2AAK)

[9:34] anonymous1 morphed into BiplabSarker     (1M2AAL)

[9:34] AmandaVizedom: Lots of background noise today. Perhaps people with stuff going on around them     (1M2AAM)

could mute locally, if they don't need to speak now.     (1M2AAN)

[9:34] MikeBennett: Any quieter? Muted locally of course.     (1M2AAO)

[9:35] AmandaVizedom: Normal level of background noise now. The star wars effects went away. :-)     (1M2AAP)

[9:36] MikeBennett: T.     (1M2AAQ)

[9:48] PeterYim: @MikeBennett ... apologies, it was HensonGraves' phone line, and not yours, that     (1M2AAR)

was injecting the hum earlier!     (1M2AAS)

[9:49] MikeBennett: @Peter No worries, I changed as many things as I could anyway.     (1M2AAT)

[9:34] anonymous morphed into PeteRivett     (1M2AAU)

[9:36] anonymous morphed into DennisPierson     (1M2AAV)

[9:37] anonymous morphed into BobbinTeegarden     (1M2AAW)

[9:37] anonymous morphed into PaulFodor     (1M2AAX)

[9:37] anonymous morphed into AnatolyLevenchuk     (1M2AAY)

[9:37] PeterYim: == HaroldBoley started the session ...     (1M2AAZ)

[9:38] anonymous1 morphed into SteveMandl     (1M2AAAA)

[9:41] anonymous morphed into BenjaminGrosof     (1M2AAAB)

[9:41] anonymous1 morphed into ElizabethFlorescu     (1M2AAAC)

[9:47] LeoObrst1 morphed into Leo Obrst     (1M2AAAD)

[9:41] PeterYim: == Michael Grüninger presenting ... refer to slides under:     (1M2AAAE)

[9:49] AnatolyLevenchuk: [ref. MichaelGruninger's slide#5 enumerating standards that uses     (1M2AAAG)

CommonLogic] What about OMG SBVR (it is ontology standard with reference to Common Logic too)?     (1M2AAAH)

[9:50] PeterYim: @MichaelGruninger: slide#5 - OntoIOp ("OMG" instead of "ISO") ... will supply an     (1M2AAAI)

update to this slide     (1M2AAAJ)

[9:46] LeoObrst: @MichaelGruninger: do you have an example of something in the Universe of Reference     (1M2AAAK)

that is not in the Universe of Discourse?     (1M2AAAL)

[9:50] TaraAthan: @Leo- the universe of discourse is simply the subset of the universe of reference     (1M2AAAM)

that quantifier range over. It is a matter of design. An upper ontology could use a domain of     (1M2AAAN)

reference containing (only) spatial entities, and have a parthood relation P that describes the     (1M2AAAO)

mereology. The symbol P does not denote any spatial entity, so it is in the universe of reference,     (1M2AAAP)

but not in the universe of discourse.     (1M2AAAQ)

[9:51] anonymous morphed into TomTinsley     (1M2AAAR)

[9:53] anonymous morphed into JohnMcClure     (1M2AAAS)

[9:53] anonymous morphed into JoelBender     (1M2AAAT)

[9:56] anonymous morphed into RexBrooks     (1M2AAAU)

[10:01] ToddSchneider: @MichaelGruninger, when the CL update is finalized will it be made available     (1M2AAAV)

without charge?     (1M2AAAW)

[10:05] MichaelGruninger: @ToddSchneider -- yes, it will be available without charge, but you will     (1M2AAAX)

need to access it through the ISO website and agree to the copyright terms specified there.     (1M2AAAY)

[10:08] TaraAthan: The free version of the current CL standard can be accessed through this page:     (1M2AAAZ)

[10:04] PeterYim: == AdrianPaschke presenting ...     (1M2AAAAB)

[10:26] PeterYim: == MichaelKifer presenting ...     (1M2AAAAC)

[10:31] HaroldBoley: Michael K is now on slide 4.     (1M2AAAAD)

[10:32] LeoObrst: Thanks, Tara. What if you wanted a family of P part relations, and wanted to     (1M2AAAAE)

quantify over those: then P would go into the universe of discourse? That's quantifying over     (1M2AAAAF)

relations, however. Maybe my example here is somewhat contrived.     (1M2AAAAG)

[10:34] MichaelGruninger: @LeoObrst: Yes, that is what is going on in slide 14 (titled Segregated     (1M2AAAAH)

and Unsegregated Dialects)     (1M2AAAAI)

[10:35] BenjaminGrosof: It will be interesting to figure out the RuleLog angle of the open CL     (1M2AAAAJ)

semantic/syntactic issues. of the semantic and syntactic issues listed for CL by MichaelGruninger.     (1M2AAAAK)

One such issue for Rulelog may be circularity in inclusion (KB import).     (1M2AAAAL)

[10:35] LeoObrst: @AdrianPaschke: can you only have negation-as-failure for Reaction rules? Or also     (1M2AAAAM)

a form of logical negation?     (1M2AAAAN)

[11:08] AdrianPaschke: @Leo: negation in the definition of complex event definitions (event     (1M2AAAAO)

patterns) is typically an event operator, which means this event should not occur within an interval     (1M2AAAAP)

of events or time intervals. Negation can also occur in the condition part of reaction rules. Here     (1M2AAAAQ)

it can be negation as failure as in normal logic programs or strong negation as in extended logic     (1M2AAAAR)

programs. There are also extensions of production rules for complex event processing where the     (1M2AAAAS)

negation is a kind of inflationary negation.     (1M2AAAAT)

[10:50] LeoObrst: @MichaelKifer: if one wanted to map between CL and RIF, I guess it would be to the     (1M2AAAAU)

RIF-FLD, right? Has that been considered?     (1M2AAAAV)

[10:53] BenjaminGrosof: In regard to RIF dialects development: Also, one of the first dialects     (1M2AAAAW)

drafted under RIF FLD is for Rulelog (earlier called SILK). Currently this is being developed via     (1M2AAAAX)

RuleML, with probable submission to W3C and OASIS.     (1M2AAAAY)

[10:54] BenjaminGrosof: SILK project was one of the first implementations of RIF-BLD.     (1M2AAAAZ)

[10:55] ToddSchneider: @MichaelGruninger, What is the prognosis for commercial support for CL? In     (1M2AAAAAA)

particular reasoners?     (1M2AAAAAB)

[10:57] BobKowalski: Are inductive definition included in Common Logic?     (1M2AAAAAC)

[10:57] TaraAthan: Actually it is possible to have a segregated dialect and still quantify over     (1M2AAAAAD)

[10:58] MichaelGruninger: @BobKowalski: No, inductive definitions are not covered by Common Logic.     (1M2AAAAAF)

[11:01] TaraAthan: yes     (1M2AAAAAG)

[10:58] HaroldBoley: @Benjamin, is your Question about CL or RIF?     (1M2AAAAAH)

[11:01] BenjaminGrosof: my question is about CL     (1M2AAAAAI)

[11:02] PaulTyson: @MichaelKifer on slide 20 all hyperlinks go to w3c rif-bld spec.     (1M2AAAAAJ)

[11:03] MichaelKifer: @PaulTyson: sorry, the FLD link should be changed: bld->fld ... [PeterYim:     (1M2AAAAAK)

slide has now been updated]     (1M2AAAAAL)

[11:08] AdrianPaschke: have to leave now to catch my train.     (1M2AAAAAM)

[11:08] AlexShkotin: @Peter, it should be interesting to invite Hets project somebody to talk:-)     (1M2AAAAAN)

[--:--] PeterYim: @AlexShkotin, we have had presentations of that before (a little while back,     (1M2AAAAAO)

slide#43 ( JohnBateman / TillMossakowski / OliverKutz / JoanaHois), and -     (1M2AAAAAQ)

JohnBateman-TillMossakowski talk     (1M2AAAAAS)

[11:08] AmandaVizedom: Glad to hear that, in CL, things like provenance that are currently in     (1M2AAAAAT)

(non-machine-useful) annotations will likely be represented semantically, machine-readably, and     (1M2AAAAAU)

therefore presumably available for reasoning.     (1M2AAAAAV)

[11:10] AdrianPaschke: (have to leave) if you have questions about RuleML I will respond later via     (1M2AAAAAW)

the chat or you can send me an email. bye.     (1M2AAAAAX)

[11:10] BenjaminGrosof: @MichaelKifer: how would the example on MichaelGruninger's slide 10 be     (1M2AAAAAY)

treated in Rulelog, i.e., in Hilog?     (1M2AAAAAZ)

[11:16] TaraAthan: In hilog, don't you have to explicitly state that the new relation is a hilog     (1M2AAAAAAA)

[11:10] MichaelKifer: @Benjamin: I need to think about MichaelGruninger's slide 10.     (1M2AAAAAAC)

[11:15] AliHashemi: @MichaelGruninger - do you know if the PrIKL project is still under development?     (1M2AAAAAAD)

[11:30] MichaelGruninger: @AliHashemi: I am not sure about the current status of PrIKL. We should     (1M2AAAAAAF)

contact Fabian Neuhaus     (1M2AAAAAAG)

[11:15] LeoObrst: Related to my question about a mapping between CL and RIF-FLD, perhaps the mapping     (1M2AAAAAAH)

between those should actually occur in OntoIOp?     (1M2AAAAAAI)

[11:23] AmandaVizedom: @BenjaminGrosof, Michael Grüninger -- this is important: the mapping itself     (1M2AAAAAAJ)

happens in a theory, and the original one need not inherit from it.     (1M2AAAAAAK)

[11:32] TaraAthan: RIF-FLD is not a language. You would have to define a particular specialization     (1M2AAAAAAL)

before using OntoIOp to map it to CL.     (1M2AAAAAAM)

[11:30] AliHashemi: I'm unsure there is a fundamental disagreement. Theories can extend or interpret     (1M2AAAAAAN)

one another in a variety of ways. Being able to track and exploit conservative extensions leads to a     (1M2AAAAAAO)

lot of useful outcomes...     (1M2AAAAAAP)

[11:30] AliHashemi: (I guess I got lost as to where the disagreement is)     (1M2AAAAAAQ)

[11:33] AmandaVizedom: I agree Ali. I think the initial disagreement arose from a difference in the     (1M2AAAAAAR)

kind of uses people were thinking of; there seems to be agreement on the general point that you can     (1M2AAAAAAS)

usefully have nonconservative extension when you have the right kind of awareness / specification of     (1M2AAAAAAT)

the (non)-inheritance relations between the original and extension-including theories.     (1M2AAAAAAU)

[11:33] AliHashemi: @BenjaminGrosof and @MichaelKifer, I'm unsure what the position is re     (1M2AAAAAAV)

conservative extensions     (1M2AAAAAAW)

[11:33] MichaelKifer: @TaraAthan: You are right. One needs to define a CL dialect as a     (1M2AAAAAAX)

specialization of FLD     (1M2AAAAAAY)

[11:34] TaraAthan: @MichaelKifer - it would be an interesting exercise.     (1M2AAAAAAZ)

[11:35] AliHashemi: It seems useful that any system should be able to discriminate what type of     (1M2AAAAAAAA)

extensions or mappings two theories have to one another.     (1M2AAAAAAAB)

[11:36] TaraAthan: @Ali- yes. The original CL semantics did not allow a choice. In the revision,     (1M2AAAAAAAC)

there is a choice.     (1M2AAAAAAAD)

[11:37] AmandaVizedom: @Ali - yes, and that is essential to defining modules, imports,     (1M2AAAAAAAE)

interoperability, spindle structures, etc. But I think it is also true that it gets insufficient     (1M2AAAAAAAF)

attention (in that people do mapping without tending to it.     (1M2AAAAAAAG)

[11:36] MichaelKifer: @AlexShkotin: I guess, we agreed to disagree. Our position is that it we don't     (1M2AAAAAAAH)

think that the mappings should be conservative extensions, but, if necessary, the mappings can be     (1M2AAAAAAAI)

restricted to ensure that they are conservative.     (1M2AAAAAAAJ)

[11:24] PaulTyson: Is it off-topic to ask who is using these languages (or another rule language) in     (1M2AAAAAAAK)

an industrial (not academic) application? Which language(s)? Why (or why not)? What for?     (1M2AAAAAAAL)

[11:31] AlexShkotin: @PaulTyson session 2013_12_19 was very interesting ... may be here     (1M2AAAAAAAM)

[11:32] PaulTyson: @Alex thanks, I have not caught up on all the preceding sessions.     (1M2AAAAAAAO)

[11:33] PeterYim: Great session!     (1M2AAAAAAAP)

[11:33] PeterYim: Join us again, same time, next Thursday, when we will be featuring the     (1M2AAAAAAAQ)

OntologySummit2014 Launch Event, on 16-Jan-2014 ... mark your calendars and watch out for further     (1M2AAAAAAAR)

announcements and developing details at:     (1M2AAAAAAAS)

[11:33] LeoObrst: Thanks, all. Very good session!     (1M2AAAAAAAU)

[11:33] AmandaVizedom: Thanks all     (1M2AAAAAAAV)

[11:37] AlexShkotin: C u:-)     (1M2AAAAAAAW)

[11:34] PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:32am PST --     (1M2AAAAAAAX)

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