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= [[OntologySummit2007|Ontology Summit 2007]] Organizing Committee Conference Call - Tuesday 13-Feb-2007  =
= [[OntologySummit2007|Ontology Summit 2007]] Organizing Committee Conference Call - Tuesday 20-Feb-2007  =


* This session will a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 13-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET  
* This session will a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 20-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET  


* Session Chair: [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]]  
* Session Chair: [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]  


=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===


* Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2007  
* Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007  
* Start Time: 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET / 16:30 GMT/UTC  
* Start Time: 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET / 16:30 GMT/UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=13&year=2007&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=20&year=2007&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: 30 minutes  
* Expected Call Duration: 30 minutes  
* Dial-in Number:  
* Dial-in Number:  
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* Attended:  
* Attended:  
** [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]] (NLM, NIH)
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (Ontolog, CIM3)
** Mark Musen
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (NIST)
** [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]]  
** [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] (NCOR, SUNY-Buffalo)
** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]  
** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]] (NSF)
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]  
** [[DeborahMcGuinness]] (Stanford KSL)
** [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]]  
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] (Ontolog, MITRE)


* Expecting: ( * = not yet confirmed whether he/she will be dialing-in)  
* Expecting: ( * = not yet confirmed whether he/she will be dialing-in)  
** [[DeborahMcGuinness]]*
** SteveRay*


* Regrets:  
* Regrets:  
** [[DavidWeinberger|David Weinberger]] (Harvard Berkman Center for Internet & Society)
** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]]  
** Tom Gruber (Tomgruber.org)
** Tom Gruber
** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (IBM Research)
** [[IvanHerman|Ivan Herman]]  
** Mark Musen (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
** Nicola Guarino  
** [[IvanHerman|Ivan Herman]] (W3C)
** Nicola Guarino (LOA-CNR.IT)


=== Agenda Ideas  ===
=== Agenda Ideas  ===


* organizing committee structure and protocol
* finalize the "tag line"  
* Peter: adopting a title or tag-line for this "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative
* review iteration-2 of survey questions
* getting organized to get dialogs from representatives of other constituencies (other than formal ontologists) going
* getting organized to summarize/synthesize the mailing list discussions on the wiki - devoting part of the 15-Feb-2007 Ontolog weekly call to do it with Summit conveners
* '' ... (please post here; indentify yourself for follow-up purposes)''  
* '' ... (please post here; indentify yourself for follow-up purposes)''  


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1. Meeting called to order:  
1. Meeting called to order:  


* [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]] took the chair and welcomed everyone  
* [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]] took the chair and welcomed everyone  


* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take minutes of the meeting  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take minutes of the meeting  
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2. Roll Call:  
2. Roll Call:  


* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_02_13#nidTOJ above]  
* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_02_20#nidTW2 above]  
 
* Peter announced that David has resigned from the organizing committee


3. Urgent Issues:  
3. Urgent Issues:  


* Olivier: in addition to trying to definite the "what" we should also try to define "what for" in the discourse. We may have more success in the latter to engage the other.  
* Deciding on a "title" or "tag line" for the "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative.
** Candidates: (see mailing list thread - http://interop.cim3.net/forum//ontology-summit-org/2007-02/msg00051.html)
*** (a) "Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology: Understanding the Distinctions"
*** (b) "Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
*** (c) "Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
*** (d) "Ontology Summit 2007 - From Logical Models to Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"  
*** (e') "Ontology Summit 2007 - From Folksonomy to Ontology: Understanding the Distinctions"  
*** (e") "Ontology Summit 2007 - From Ontology to Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
** Votes:
*** [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]] - (a) or (c) (interpretted)
*** [[DeborahMcGuinness]] - (c)
*** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] - (a) or (b) (prefer (a))
*** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]
*** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] - (c)
*** [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] - (a)
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] - (c)
*** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] - (c)
*** Mark Musen - (c)
*** Nicola Guarino
*** [[IvanHerman|Ivan Herman]]
*** Tom Gruber


* Peter: we are losing both organizing committee member and key conveners (e.g. David & Christiane)
* getting the community-specific discussions going:
** Deborah: it is difficult to keep up, even when one is interested
** previous discussion:
** Olivier / Steve: a survey and better developed wiki pages should help
*** see (communities enumerated): http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_DefinitionsOfOntology#nidTIS
*** Peter will work up a draft of the survey later today,a and will circulate it to the organizing committee for review, and then bring it up to the broader community for comments and suggestions on the Feb-15 Ontolog session (ConferenceCall_2007_02_15) before rolling it out (hopefully fairly soon after that)
*** and (champions we have in mind): http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_01_30#nidSZQ
*** action: ...  
**** Ivan: consider asking people to identify what community they belong to  
**** Nicola: we catalog, and map out the framework
**** Peter: ask various communities to put together a glossary of their ontology (or ontology-related) vocabulary
**** Steve / Nicola: ask various community representative to where they think they fit in
**** try getting Tom Gruber to present his view some time soon, that is going to help
** (proposed by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] on 2007.02.15): The overall Summit Process and the 6-steps to achieve our objectives - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_02_15#nidU8H


* Leo pointed out the their has not been any distribution (nor archived messages) from the [ontology-summit] list since 1-Feb-2007
* leveraging our wiki editors
** Peter to look into that
** volunteers: [[CharlesTurnitsa|Charles Turnitsa]], [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]]


* getting the community-specific discussions going:
* deliberating on 'the framework' ... and getting it adopted
** see (communities enumerated): http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_DefinitionsOfOntology#nidTIS
** and (champions we have in mind): http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_01_30#nidSZQ
** suggested actions [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_02_06#nidTK7 from the 2007.02.06 call]:
*** Ivan: consider asking people to identify what community they belong to
*** Nicola: we catalog, and map out the framework  
*** Peter: ask various communities to put together a glossary of their ontology (or ontology-related) vocabulary
*** Steve / Nicola: ask various community representative to where they think they fit in
*** try getting Tom Gruber to present his view some time soon, that is going to help
**** (update) Peter: Tom's invited talk at Ontolog has now been scheduled for 1-Mar-2007
*** have David champion the web 2.0 community dialog
*** have Ivan champion the semantic web community dialog
** New suggestions:
*** Peter suggests: create an online survey to collect input
**** Peter also suggested we consider building a Protege-based ontology and knowledgebase to tackle the input
***** Steve suggests we should stay simple first, and use a spread sheet instead (at least in the beginning)
*** Peter suggests: devoting part of the 15-Feb-2007 Ontolog weekly call to do it with Summit conveners
**** see draft agenda for ConferenceCall_2007_02_15
 
* assigning wiki editors
** volunteers: [[CharlesTurnitsa|Charles Turnitsa]], [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], (added:) [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]], ... (need more, hopefully from our community champions)
** protocol & editor coordination - Peter: suggest we try to engage the conveners and devote a good part of the 15-Feb-2007 Ontolog weekly call to do it  


4. Outstanding Issues:  
4. Outstanding Issues:  


* Completed Task Report:  
* Completed Task Report:  
** had a very useful session with some of the summit conveners at the 2007.02.15 Ontolog conference call - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_02_15#nidU8A


* Outstanding Issue Update:  
* Outstanding Issue Update:  
** organizing committee structure and protocol
** pending responses  
** pending responses  
*** organizing committee / keynote: [[DieterFensel|Dieter Fensel]], [[TimBernersLee]]  
*** organizing committee / keynote: [[DieterFensel|Dieter Fensel]], [[TimBernersLee]]  
*** conveners: Chiara F (missing responses), [[PatrickGannon|Patrick Gannon]] & Thomas B (responded but pending decision)  
*** conveners: Chiara F, Thomas B (pending - ref: "key participant" role confirmation); [[PatrickGannon|Patrick Gannon]] (need to review with OASIS staff)  
** Mailing list distribution issue - ref: http://interop.cim3.net/forum//ontology-summit-org/2007-01/msg00027.html - still missing response from: [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]]  
** organizing committee structure, protocol and distribution of work load
*** Frank will acknowledge the next post he receives from [ontolog-summit-org]  
 
*** also suggested that Frank helps engage the XMDR folks in this summit dialog
5. New Issues / Discussions / Insight:
 
* review and adopt iteration-2 of the [[OntologySummit2007|Ontology Summit 2007]] [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Process/Draft2#nidUFN survey questions]
 
* Mark Musen: within the biomedical communities, there are those who object to standardization, even in syntax
 
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: we only want to characterize the space and capture the attributes from the vantage point of each constituency
 
* Mark Musen: given the [[OntologySummit2007|objective of this summit]], it is important that we engage the folsonomists (web 2.0 people)


5. New Issues:  
* Mark Musen: we should be very clear to people from different constituencies that they will all have a say coming to the table;
** more specifically, the framework should compare, for example, (so that we are recognizing the differentiation and merits of each constituency):
*** 'how formal things are' (Mark), as well as
*** 'how easily their "ontology" methods can be adopted' (Mark) or,
*** say, even 'estimated size of a specific community' (Peter)


* Deciding on a "title" or "tag line" for the "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative. Candidates:
* ... ''(insert yours here)''
** Steve ([http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2006-12/msg00008.html the very original proposal]): "Semantic Mapping or How we must learn to love heterogeneity"
** "What is an Ontology?"
** Peter: "Standardization Amidst Heterogeneity"
** Peter (latest, and his favorite): "Shared Understanding Amidst Heterogeneity"
** Leo: "Delineating the Range of Semantic Models"
** Barry: "Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology: Towards Classification and Understanding"
*** Barry: "Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology: Understanding the Distinctions"
*** Leo / Peter (more in favor of): "Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
*** will bring the above 2 candidates up to the organizing committee for decision


6. Any Other Business:  
6. Any Other Business:  
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* ALL: we will continue the discussion of today's agenda items on the [ontology-summit-org] list  
* ALL: we will continue the discussion of today's agenda items on the [ontology-summit-org] list  


* Next Meeting: our next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 20-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET. (ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=20&year=2007&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 world clock])  
* Next Meeting: unless otherwise re-scheduled (which we likely will) our next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 27-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET. (ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=27&year=2007&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 world clock])  
** [[DavidWeinberger|David Weinberger]] mentioned that he cannot do Tuesday 11:30am~5:00pm EST
** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]]: I have a telecon every Tuesday 11-12:30 ET that I can't miss/  
** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]]: I have a telecon every Tuesday 11-12:30 ET that I can't miss/  
** Tom Gruber: can't make this time on Tuesdays  
** Tom Gruber: can't make this time on Tuesdays  
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]: I can't make the Feb-13 call (traveling, but will try calling in from my cell phone), but in general this time slot works for me.  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: I won't be able to make the next call (Feb-27) ... will be traveling in Washington DC Area ... will be engaged in full-day workshop (CEW#58) at NSF on Feb-27
** [[IvanHerman|Ivan Herman]]: In general, Tuesday evening is fine with me. However, I will not be able to make it the next coming Tuesday (Febr 13) due to another meeting, neither on the week after (Febr 20) due to a trip
** Mark Musen: I have another conflict this week that will prevent me from making the Tuesday call.  In general, this time is good for me.
** see also: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_01_30#nidT00


* Call adjourned at: 9:03 am PST  
* Call adjourned at: 9:12 am PST  


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notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2007.02.13-9:25 PST
notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2007.02.20-09:20 PST


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All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.  


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Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee Conference Call - Tuesday 20-Feb-2007

  • This session will a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 20-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007
  • Start Time: 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET / 16:30 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 30 minutes
  • Dial-in Number:
    • from US: +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)
    • from Europe, call:
      • Belgium 070-35-9989
      • France 0826-100-277
      • Germany 01805-00-7649
      • Ireland 0818-270-034
      • Italy 0848-390-175
      • Switzerland 0848-560-195
      • UK 0870-738-0763
    • callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers
    • Conference ID: "5823120#"
    • Direct call from from Skype: +990008275823120
  • Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
    • view-only password: "ontolog"

Attendees

  • Expecting: ( * = not yet confirmed whether he/she will be dialing-in)

Agenda Ideas

  • finalize the "tag line"
  • review iteration-2 of survey questions
  • ... (please post here; indentify yourself for follow-up purposes)

Agenda & Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

2. Roll Call:

3. Urgent Issues:

  • Deciding on a "title" or "tag line" for the "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative.
    • Candidates: (see mailing list thread - http://interop.cim3.net/forum//ontology-summit-org/2007-02/msg00051.html)
      • (a) "Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology: Understanding the Distinctions"
      • (b) "Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Terminology, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
      • (c) "Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
      • (d) "Ontology Summit 2007 - From Logical Models to Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
      • (e') "Ontology Summit 2007 - From Folksonomy to Ontology: Understanding the Distinctions"
      • (e") "Ontology Summit 2007 - From Ontology to Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions"
    • Votes:
  • deliberating on 'the framework' ... and getting it adopted

4. Outstanding Issues:

  • Outstanding Issue Update:
    • pending responses
    • organizing committee structure, protocol and distribution of work load

5. New Issues / Discussions / Insight:

  • Mark Musen: within the biomedical communities, there are those who object to standardization, even in syntax
  • Peter P. Yim / Leo Obrst: we only want to characterize the space and capture the attributes from the vantage point of each constituency
  • Mark Musen: we should be very clear to people from different constituencies that they will all have a say coming to the table;
    • more specifically, the framework should compare, for example, (so that we are recognizing the differentiation and merits of each constituency):
      • 'how formal things are' (Mark), as well as
      • 'how easily their "ontology" methods can be adopted' (Mark) or,
      • say, even 'estimated size of a specific community' (Peter)
  • ... (insert yours here)

6. Any Other Business:

  • drafting the communique
  • soliciting "co-sponsorship"
  • Public Relations & The Press

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • ALL: we will continue the discussion of today's agenda items on the [ontology-summit-org] list
  • Next Meeting: unless otherwise re-scheduled (which we likely will) our next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 27-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET. (ref: world clock)
    • Chris Welty: I have a telecon every Tuesday 11-12:30 ET that I can't miss/
    • Tom Gruber: can't make this time on Tuesdays
    • Peter P. Yim: I won't be able to make the next call (Feb-27) ... will be traveling in Washington DC Area ... will be engaged in full-day workshop (CEW#58) at NSF on Feb-27
  • Call adjourned at: 9:12 am PST

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2007.02.20-09:20 PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.