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= [[OntologySummit2007|Ontology Summit 2007]] Organizing Committee Meeting - Fri 2007-01-26 =
= [[OntologySummit2007|Ontology Summit 2007]] Organizing Committee Meeting - Tue 2007.01.30 =


* '''Topic: First Meeting of the full Organizing Committee for OntologySummit2007'''  
* '''Topic: First Meeting (v1.1, continuation) of the full Organizing Committee for OntologySummit2007'''  


* '''Session Chair: LeoObrst''' (NIST)  
* '''Session Chair: SteveRay''' (NIST)  


=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===
=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details  ===


* Date: Thursday, January 26, 2007  
* Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007  
* Start Time: 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 8:00pm CET / 19:00 GMT/UTC  
* Start Time: 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET / 16:00 GMT/UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=26&year=2007&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=30&year=2007&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: 1.0 hours  
* Expected Call Duration: 1.0 hours  
* Dial-in Number:  
* Dial-in Number:  
** from a telephone (US): +1-712-432-4990 (Iowa, USA)  
** from a telephone (US): +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)  
** from a phone (Europe): 0870-119-1313 (UK) or 01805 00 7620 (Germany)  
** from a phone (Europe): 0870-738-0763(UK) or 01805 00 7620 (Germany)  
** callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers  
** callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers  
** Conference ID: "5823120#"  
** Conference ID: "5823120#"  
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* Attended  
* Attended  
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (NIST)
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (Ontolog, CIM3)
** [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]] (NLM, NIH)  
** [[OlivierBodenreider|Olivier Bodenreider]] (NLM, NIH)  
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (Ontolog, CIM3)
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] (Ontolog, MITRE)  
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] (Ontolog, MITRE)  
** [[IvanHerman|Ivan Herman]] (W3C)
** [[DavidWeinberger|David Weinberger]] (Harvard Berkman Center for Internet & Society)  
** [[DavidWeinberger|David Weinberger]] (Harvard Berkman Center for Internet & Society)  
** [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] (NCOR, SUNY-Buffalo)


* Expecting  
* Expecting  
** [[IvanHerman|Ivan Herman]] (W3C)
** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]] (NSF)  
** [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]] (NSF)  
** Mark Musen (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
** [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]] (NCOR, SUNY-Buffalo)  
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (NIST)  
** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (IBM Research)  
** [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (IBM Research)  


* Regrets:  
* Regrets:  
** [[DeborahMcGuinness]] (Stanford KSL)
** Mark Musen (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
** Nicola Guarino (LOA-CNR.IT)  
** Nicola Guarino (LOA-CNR.IT)  
** [[DeborahMcGuinness]] (Stanford KSL)


=== Agenda Ideas  ===
=== Agenda Ideas  ===
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1. Meeting called to order:  
1. Meeting called to order:  


* [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] took the chair and welcomed everyone  
* [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] took the chair and welcomed everyone  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take minutes of the meeting  
* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered to take minutes of the meeting  


2. Roll Call:  
2. Roll Call:  


* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_01_26#nidSSA above]  
* see [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting_2007_01_30#nidSYD above]  


3. Urgent Issues:  
3. Urgent Issues:  
* Mailing list distribution issue - ref: http://interop.cim3.net/forum//ontology-summit-org/2007-01/msg00027.html
** confirm now OK: Leo, Chris & David
** still missing response from: Frank


4. Outstanding Issues:  
4. Outstanding Issues:  


* introductions among the members  
* introduction among the members  
* aligning everyone's expectations as well as their understanding of our objectives  
* aligning everyone's expectations as well as their understanding of our objectives  


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** missing responses / confirmations  
** missing responses / confirmations  
** more web 2.0 representation - maybe as convener; ping other organizing committee members for suggestion  
** more web 2.0 representation - maybe as convener; ping other organizing committee members for suggestion  
*** David suggests: Peter Morville, Peter Merholv, Jesse James Garrett (informtion architecture institute)
*** David (and his friend Peter Merholv) suggested: Gene, Karen, Margaret, Chiara & Paolo
**** David will try to engage these people on our behalf (or see who else they would suggest)  
**** David will try to engage these people on our behalf (or see who else they would suggest)  
*** invitations have since been extended to those individuals
*** as well as to [[PaolaDiMaio]] (current Ontolog member)
* discussion: our deliverables  
* discussion: our deliverables  
** 3 months of virtual discourse  
** 3 months of virtual discourse  
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** new: how about a poster? (--suggested: ppy / 2007.01.22)  
** new: how about a poster? (--suggested: ppy / 2007.01.22)  
* discussion: our approach & process  
* discussion: our approach & process  
** Nicola: short position papers
*** Leo: hope the wiki page will help contain that ... with "gardeners" to administer them
** David / Steve / Peter : defining ontologies should not be the goal here ... more like reaching an understanding of what each community refers to when they say "ontology"
*** Steve / David: think we should need to be "very approachable" and simple, at least at first encounter
** Ivan: no need to draw distinction between EU and US semantic web communities
** Ivan: [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] is chairing a Rules working group that is also putting rules and reasoning into a similar framework
** Ivan: be careful on the use of the word "ontology" because it scares away the layman ... I use "vocabulary", but that probably isn't the right word
*** Leo: I would make distinction between "terminology" and "ontology"
* Assessment of current progress  
* Assessment of current progress  
** seeding the discussion?  
** seeding the discussion?  
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* distributing the organizing chore  
* distributing the organizing chore  
** engaging participants from specific target communties  
** engaging participants from specific target communties  
*** formal ontologist
*** XML community - OASIS - Peter to contact Patrick Gannon
*** semantic web communities
**** RDF community
**** OWL-DL (discription logic) community
**** OWL full community
*** the Applications Development community
**** database community
**** UML community - Steve: will ask [[ConradBock|Conrad Bock]] & [[EvanWallace|Evan Wallace]]; Leo: [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] too ... it's great that they all straddle both ontologies and object models
**** software engineering / programmer community
*** [[FOAF]] community - Ivan: it is spread out and no one seems to be leading now
*** Micro-Formats ([[GRDDL]]) community - ?
*** Concept Map community
*** SEARCH community - [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] might point us to something given IBM's work in UIMA
**** statistical
**** semantic
*** wiki & semantic wiki community -
*** Web 2.0 community (social network, folksonomy) - David is championing
**** Ivan: suggesting again Tom Gruber - Peter: [[DeborahMcGuinness]] will be the person to help us, hopefully
***** Tom Gruber contacted and confirmed (--ppy/2007.02.01 with help from PatHayes)
*** Thesauri community - [[ChristianeFellbaum|Christiane Fellbaum]]
*** metadata world / dublin core / SKOS / Librarians / Taxonomists / KM community - [[DeniseBedford|Denise Bedford]]; Ivan also suggests Thomas Baker
*** ISO-11179 folks - [[FrankOlken|Frank Olken]] is our man
** drafting the communique  
** drafting the communique  
** ...  
** ...  
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6. Any Other Business:  
6. Any Other Business:  
* to get W3C's official involvement in this initiative, Ivan suggests:
** contact Ian Jacobs <ij-at-w3.org> who is the communications chair
** mention that Chris and Ivan are already involved in the organizing committee
** W3C might be more receptive to "co-sponsor" than "co-organizer"
* Steve will make a post to get the conversation organized
* Peter will send an invitation to Thomas Baker and refer him to Ivan


7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:  
7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:  


* since we were not able to get close to a full organizing committee meeting together, most of the agenda is now deferred to the next call, which is now agreed to be a 1-hour call starting at Tue 30-Jan-2007 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET.  
* it is agreed that the next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 6-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET.  
** we will schedule this "first" call for 1-hour, and hope that subsequent sync-up calls will only last 30 minutes each week (with most of our transactions done via the [ontology-summit-org] e-mail list.
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=6&year=2007&hour=8&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 world clock]  


* Next Meeting:  
* Regular Weekly Meetings:  
** choice of regular weekly sync-up call time slot -  
** choice of regular weekly sync-up call time slot - 30 minutes, starting: Tuesdays 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST
*** Nicola's preference Monday through Thursday 1:30~2:30pm EST / 10:30~11:30am PST / 7:30~8:30pm CET -- Thursdays are out because of a conflict with regularly scheduled Ontolog events  
*** Nicola's preference Monday through Thursday 1:30~2:30pm EST / 10:30~11:30am PST / 7:30~8:30pm CET -- Thursdays are out because of a conflict with regularly scheduled Ontolog events  
** Deborah's suggested: Mon, Tue or Wednesdays,  11:30am~12:30pm EST / 8:30~9:30am PST / 5:30~6:30pm CET; sometimes i could make 8am PST / 11am EST / 5pm CET on friday  
** Deborah's suggested: Mon, Tue or Wednesdays,  11:30am~12:30pm EST / 8:30~9:30am PST / 5:30~6:30pm CET; sometimes i could make 8am PST / 11am EST / 5pm CET on friday  
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** Ivan: Tuesday evening would be *ideal* for me at those times. Mondays and Wednesdays are not
** Ivan: Tuesday evening would be *ideal* for me at those times. Mondays and Wednesdays are not
possible *at all* at those times.  
possible *at all* at those times.  
** Peter: on Tuesdays, I can only be available after 12:30am EST / 9:30am PST / 6:30pm CET; and will probably have to miss a few meeting (like once a month). Mon, Wed & Fridays work better for me.  
** Peter: Tuesdays are ok now ... I have rescheduled other things to open up Tuesdays now.  


* Call adjourned at: 8:49am PST / 11:49am EST  
* Call adjourned at: 9:02am PST / 12:02pm EST  


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notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2007.01.26-09:08am PST
notes taken by: [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / 2007.01.30-9:02am PST


All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.  
All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.  


[[Category:Event_Meeting]]    [[Category:OntologySummit]]    [[Category:OntologySummit2007]]
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Latest revision as of 07:49, 9 January 2016

Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee Meeting - Tue 2007.01.30

  • Topic: First Meeting (v1.1, continuation) of the full Organizing Committee for OntologySummit2007
  • Session Chair: SteveRay (NIST)

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007
  • Start Time: 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET / 16:00 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0 hours
  • Dial-in Number:
    • from a telephone (US): +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)
    • from a phone (Europe): 0870-738-0763(UK) or 01805 00 7620 (Germany)
    • callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers
    • Conference ID: "5823120#"
    • Direct call from from Skype: +990008275823120
  • Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
    • view-only password: "ontolog"

Attendees

  • Regrets:
    • DeborahMcGuinness (Stanford KSL)
    • Mark Musen (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
    • Nicola Guarino (LOA-CNR.IT)

Agenda Ideas

  • ... (please post here; indentify yourself for follow-up purposes)

Agenda & Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

2. Roll Call:

3. Urgent Issues:

4. Outstanding Issues:

  • introduction among the members
  • aligning everyone's expectations as well as their understanding of our objectives

5. New Issues:

  • 2007.01.18 Launch Meeting postmortem
  • Organizing Committee Membership
    • missing responses / confirmations
    • more web 2.0 representation - maybe as convener; ping other organizing committee members for suggestion
      • David (and his friend Peter Merholv) suggested: Gene, Karen, Margaret, Chiara & Paolo
        • David will try to engage these people on our behalf (or see who else they would suggest)
      • invitations have since been extended to those individuals
      • as well as to PaolaDiMaio (current Ontolog member)
  • discussion: our deliverables
    • 3 months of virtual discourse
    • 3 half-day face-to-face technical workshop
      • (a) ...
      • (b) ...
      • (c) ...
    • a half-day open public meeting (with press)
    • a written communique
    • new: how about a poster? (--suggested: ppy / 2007.01.22)
  • discussion: our approach & process
    • Nicola: short position papers
      • Leo: hope the wiki page will help contain that ... with "gardeners" to administer them
    • David / Steve / Peter : defining ontologies should not be the goal here ... more like reaching an understanding of what each community refers to when they say "ontology"
      • Steve / David: think we should need to be "very approachable" and simple, at least at first encounter
    • Ivan: no need to draw distinction between EU and US semantic web communities
    • Ivan: Chris Welty is chairing a Rules working group that is also putting rules and reasoning into a similar framework
    • Ivan: be careful on the use of the word "ontology" because it scares away the layman ... I use "vocabulary", but that probably isn't the right word
      • Leo: I would make distinction between "terminology" and "ontology"
  • Assessment of current progress
    • seeding the discussion?
    • assigning / self-selecting thread moderators?
    • co-editor volunteers solicitation?
  • distributing the organizing chore
    • engaging participants from specific target communties
      • formal ontologist
      • XML community - OASIS - Peter to contact Patrick Gannon
      • semantic web communities
        • RDF community
        • OWL-DL (discription logic) community
        • OWL full community
      • the Applications Development community
        • database community
        • UML community - Steve: will ask Conrad Bock & Evan Wallace; Leo: Elisa Kendall too ... it's great that they all straddle both ontologies and object models
        • software engineering / programmer community
      • FOAF community - Ivan: it is spread out and no one seems to be leading now
      • Micro-Formats (GRDDL) community - ?
      • Concept Map community
      • SEARCH community - Chris Welty might point us to something given IBM's work in UIMA
        • statistical
        • semantic
      • wiki & semantic wiki community -
      • Web 2.0 community (social network, folksonomy) - David is championing
        • Ivan: suggesting again Tom Gruber - Peter: DeborahMcGuinness will be the person to help us, hopefully
          • Tom Gruber contacted and confirmed (--ppy/2007.02.01 with help from PatHayes)
      • Thesauri community - Christiane Fellbaum
      • metadata world / dublin core / SKOS / Librarians / Taxonomists / KM community - Denise Bedford; Ivan also suggests Thomas Baker
      • ISO-11179 folks - Frank Olken is our man
    • drafting the communique
    • ...
    • Leo: 10 dimensions (see 1/25/07 post); get people to post under an appropriate subject line
    • Olivier: take advantage of the wiki; list the things that we don't want to discussed
    • Peter: as Steve mentioned, I'll "garden" the wiki, but I'll need help

6. Any Other Business:

  • to get W3C's official involvement in this initiative, Ivan suggests:
    • contact Ian Jacobs <ij-at-w3.org> who is the communications chair
    • mention that Chris and Ivan are already involved in the organizing committee
    • W3C might be more receptive to "co-sponsor" than "co-organizer"
  • Steve will make a post to get the conversation organized
  • Peter will send an invitation to Thomas Baker and refer him to Ivan

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • it is agreed that the next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 6-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET.
  • Regular Weekly Meetings:
    • choice of regular weekly sync-up call time slot - 30 minutes, starting: Tuesdays 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST
      • Nicola's preference Monday through Thursday 1:30~2:30pm EST / 10:30~11:30am PST / 7:30~8:30pm CET -- Thursdays are out because of a conflict with regularly scheduled Ontolog events
    • Deborah's suggested: Mon, Tue or Wednesdays, 11:30am~12:30pm EST / 8:30~9:30am PST / 5:30~6:30pm CET; sometimes i could make 8am PST / 11am EST / 5pm CET on friday
    • Steve: The one day I can't meet is Wednesdays after 1:30pm EST / 10:30am PST / 7:30pm CET
    • Ivan: Tuesday evening would be *ideal* for me at those times. Mondays and Wednesdays are not

possible *at all* at those times.

    • Peter: Tuesdays are ok now ... I have rescheduled other things to open up Tuesdays now.
  • Call adjourned at: 9:02am PST / 12:02pm EST

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2007.01.30-9:02am PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.