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NASA-Ontolog-KMWG OKMDS mini-series Session-03 - Thu 17-January-2008

  • Subject: Ontology in Knowledge Management and Decision Support (OKMDS): Making Better Decisions
  • Panel Session Title: Creating Informational and Virtual Space for Knowledge Sharing
  • Panelists: TomSoderstrom (NASA/JPL), Jeanne Holm (NASA/JPL) and Marcela Oliva (LATTC Architecture, LACCD Facilities K.M.) . .

From the SL virtual world event: screenshot-01 screenshot-02 screenshot-03

(click on above links to view the full size images) . . . . . .

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Thursday, January 17, 2008
  • Start Time: 10:30am PST / 1:30pm EST / 18:30 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: ~2.0 hours
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  • Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.


  • Attended: about 20~25 people on the conference call, and about 15~20 in SecondLife. (some overlaps among those two groups, though.)
  • Registered Participants & Attendees:
    • ... to register for participation, please add your name (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...
  • Regrets:
    • Meena Husein (NASA/JSC-SD/NSBRI) (meant to join, but got pulled away)


This "Ontology in Knowledge Management and Decision Support (OKMDS)" mini-series is a collaboration between NASA, Ontolog and the (US) Federal Knowledge Management Working Group (KMWG) and is co-organized by a team of individuals from various related communities passionate about creating the opportunity for an inter-community, collaborative exploration of the intersection between Ontology, Knowledge Management and Decision Support, that could eventually lead us toward "Better Decision Making."

The mini-series will span a period of about six months (Nov-2007 to May-2008), during which we will be featuring Talks, Panel Discussions and Online Discourse on pertinent issues. We expect all the talks and panel discussion events to be offered in both 'real world' (augmented conference calls) and 'virtual world' (Second Life) settings.

Refer to details about this mini-series at the OKMDS project homepage at:

Agenda & Proceedings: OKMDS mini-series Session-03

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call. This virtual event is also featured concurrently at the NASA/JPL Explorer Island in the "Second Life" virtual world settings.
  • Agenda:
    • 1. Opening by the Session chair - Jeanne Holm
    • 2. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (15~20 minutes) - All - we'll skip this if we have more than 25 participants (in which case, it will be best if members try to update their namesake pages on this wiki prior to the call so that everyone can get to know who's who more easily.)
    • 3. Main Presentation (~60 min.) - Tom Soderstrom, Jeanne Holm & Marcela Oliva
    • 5. Q & A and Open discussion by all participants (~30 minutes) - All
    • 6. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up / Next Event Announcement by the Session Chair - Jeanne Holm

Title: Creating Informational and Virtual Space for Knowledge Sharing

Abstract: (by JeanneHolm)

How does the way in which organizations organize and share their knowledge affect the way in which people have conversations and drive dialogue? Traditionally, architects design buildings that create spaces for conversation--meeting rooms, offices, conference centers. This session explores how these methods have been translated into the information environment and how community physical spaces can be viewed, to understand how knowledge flows within a city. Understanding how that information space is created in an organization through ontologies and taxonomies that drive people in certain directions for decision making and discussion is the focus of another topic. Bringing these two ideas together into the idea of creating virtual physical spaces that help citizens engage with government, participate in a rocket launch, and support the mission of NASA will be explored in looking at NASA's experience in the Second Life virtual world ("SL") over the last two years.


  • To participate in the online discourse to further explore the OKMDS subject matter, please subscribe to our open archived discussion forum by:
  • To be part of the conversation, it is most appropriate that you should already be a member of either the KMWG community or the Ontolog community. Read on, if you aren't already.
    • For participation in KMWG (US) Federal Knowledge Management Working Group - an open forum for collaboration on issues related to government-focused knowledge management,
    • For participation in Ontolog - an open, international, virtual community of practice devoted to advancing the field of ontology, ontological engineering and semantic technology, and advocating their adoption into mainstream applications and international standards,
  • To subscribe to [ontolog-invitation], the Ontolog event announcement list (one doesn't necessarily have to be a community member), simply send a blank e-mail to, and then confirm to the system generated e-mail address validation message accordingly.

Questions, Answers & Discourse

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  • For those who have further questions or remarks on the topic, please post them to the [okmds-convene] forum so that everyone in the community can benefit from the discourse. (One needs to be subscribed to this archived mailing list first before posting. See subscription details here.)
  • Input from the soaphub-chat session:

Susan Turnbull: Just us for now. I was in SL briefly, but it was more difficult to see the slides.

Susan Turnbull: This may be of interest: I was unable to attend the meeting: demo of Stephane Zugzwang's

Virtual Reality Room "an immersive, photo-realistic environment that brings an unprecedented level of

realism to Second Life". There will be an announcement on how educators can get a free copy of this device

and learn how to customize it with their own scenes.

When: Tuesday, January 15, 10:00am PST check for local time

Where: Learning (128, 128, 131)

Note: You must join the NMC Guests group to visit this sim

More info and pictures of the VRR:

Susan Turnbull: Backround on the sponsor for the Jan. 15 session above:

Susan Turnbull: NMC: The New Media Consortium: sparking innovative learning and creativity

NMC Campus Observer -

NMC Virtual Worlds -

Symposium on the Evolution of Communication (held in SL)

NMC Teachers Buzz - every other Monday

John Graybeal: Question for the speaker: What is the relationship of these taxonomies

-- for a particular example, the Instruments taxonomy -- to the GCMD keywords?

Ravi Sharma: Space to space time integration Space time- frequency other metadata such as qty and amplitude.

... Cultures have attributes of Object - Indian: Sound, Form, Taste, Smell, Touch.

... Tensors important and necessary to understand universe geometry such as wharping of Spacetime complex such as Gravitational forces.

... Multi dimensional space is natural for Data mining OLAP statistical and multivariate analysis.

... Another is Patterns.

... Another is processes as sequence of events.

... Enabling apps with geospatial data location aware applications.

Audio Recording of this Session

  • To download the audio recording of the session, click here
    • the playback of the audio files require the proper setup, and an MP3 compatible player on your computer.
  • Conference Date and Time: 17-Jan-2008 10:45am~12:45pm PST
  • Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 57 Minutes
  • Recording File Size: 13.4 MB (in mp3 format)
  • Telephone Playback:
    • Prior to the Expiration Date of 17-Fec-2008 0:00 AM PST, one can call-in and hear the telephone playback of the session.
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      • Skype: +990008271111 (free computer-to-computer call)
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      • Conference ID: 5823120#
      • Recording Reference Number: 140422#
    • suggestions:
      • its best that you listen to the session while having the slide presentation opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.
  • Take a look, also, at the rich body of knowledge that this community has built together, over the years, by going through the archives of noteworthy past Ontolog events.