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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-01-26

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-01-26
  • Date: Thursday, Jan. 26, 2006
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST / 18:30 UTC World Clock
  • Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa) - note: new call-in number and access code
  • Participant Access Code: "68656#"
  • Agenda Comments:
    • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
    • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
    • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at:
      • view-only password: "ontolog"
      • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
    • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at:


  • Expecting:
    • ...(add your name here)...

Agenda Ideas

  • ...(add suggested items here)...

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
    • member regular meeting
    • invited speaker session
    • scheduled discussion
    • project review
    • workshop / work session
    • planning
  • Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person)
    • Thu Feb. 2, 2006 - Nicola Guarino - "Making basic ontological choices: the DOLCE experience" - confirmed (LeoObrst)
    • Thu Mar. 2, 2006 - Asuman Dogac - "Exploiting ebXML Registry Semantics in the eHealth Domain" - confirmed (MonicaMartin)
    • Thu Mar. 15, 2006 - UpperOntologySummit - Moderator: Steve Ray - organizing committee formed and working on it (PeterYim)
  • Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates: - discussion postponed
    • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
    • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
    • Nicolas Rouquette -- other topics lined up?
    • Other candidates:
      • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
      • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
      • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
      • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
        • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
      • Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
      • more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series
      • (new! 2006.01.26) - tagging multimedia and other Ontolog content for podcast & semantic search

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

  • (new!) Ontolog podcast - EMichaelMaximilien (Thanks, Max!)
    • see:
    • see also: iTunes screen shot of our podcast (courtesy ShinyaYamada).
    • shall we advertise? --ppy: don't do this quite yet ... wait till we have someone to sponsor the bandwidth/traffic, it could become costly if we actually got lucky (and got popular!)
    • solicitation from Max - need volunteers to work on the items below:
      • pelase review the "description" and feedback on what is preferred - ref. that for 2004.09.08 and before, or 2004.09.24 and after
        • Bob & Peter feels that the version used in 2004.09.08 and before is better
      • copyright statements need to be customized
      • ownership need to be customized
      • keyword lists need to be customized
    • this dovetails into what Nicolas Rouquette have been trying to get the community to do -- tagging the community content
      • all: let's put this in as a candidate technical discussion session

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

  • Reveiw of the Thu 2005.12.15 "Ontology Applications and Implementations" session
    • what was good
      • had a flurry of submissions after closing, therefore, we have a few on queue now
      • had 17 people in the audience - reasonable crowd
    • what needs improvement
    • how would we do it differently next time
      • Bob Smith: maybe have presentaters structure it to tell us:
        • what is the application?
        • what tools were used?
        • what does the ontology look like, and how was it applied?
        • how long did it take to implement, how big a scope, ...
        • how successful was it?
        • ref. topquadrant, michael denny, mark musen's Applied Ontologies magazine for matrices
    • other input
      • Kurt: would not be hard to put together another session; probably only need a leadtime of 2~3 weeks
  • Review of the 2005.01.12 & 01.19 Leo Obrst "What is an Ontology?" sessions - discussion postponed
    • what was good
    • what needs improvement
      • Bob Smith: Suggestion about the 30 minute Introductions Phase of Presentations with LARGE attendees: Eliminate it... (Yes, I know it is sometimes helpful, but we should be able to get this info in better ways....)
    • how would we do it differently next time
    • other input
  • Engaging UN/CEFACT:
    • Anders: ready to find a way forward
    • Kurt: the status - our input to UN/CEFACT, and interaction with Duane & Mary Kay
    • Anders: Modelers Reference Initiative (MRI) - a community (just started) now going with a bi-weekly (generally alternating Wednesdays) conference call
      • would like to invite Ontolog to present
      • can reciprocate by directing people to Ontolog
    • Kurt: let's track when a new version (where some of our comments were folded in) comes out that we should further comment on
    • Peter / Anders: let's try to have a phone-bridged joint sub-session betwwen the March UpperOntologySummit and the UN/CEFACT meeting (they both happen on the same week.) - [Anders and Peter to work out the details off-line]
      • best possibility is late mroning EST / early morning PST Wed 3/15/06 maybe 1 hour to share between UN/CEFACT and the UO folks
        • (updated/--ppy) on further discussion, phone conferencing does not seem to be the most appropriate medium after all; we'll focus on doing the following (as suggested by Anders)
    • Anders: look forward to possibility of someone from Ontolog presenting at the March 2006 UN/CEFACT meeting in Vancouver
      • candiate speaker from Ontolog: Kurt, Bob or Duane to be our ambassador
        • (update/--Kurt) Kurt will not be available to travel that week, he'll try to ping Bob or Duane to see if they can do it.
  • Presenting at the OASIS Symposium 2006 (9-12 May 2006, San Francisco, CA) - Proposal submission deadline: 20 December 2005 - discussion postponed
    • Duane and Rex are submitting, requesting that they cover our (Ontolog) work as a sidebar
    • anyone from here going to present?
  • Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed

7) Current Project Status Report - discussion postponed

  • Status of Protege-KIF project work
  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
  • UBL liaison report
  • SICoP liaison report
  • NCOR relationship - pending
  • Planning team report

8) project work session / discussion - Beginning of Year Planning for Ontolog -- to be postponed to the next membership conference call

  • initiatives for this year
  • action plans

9) New project proposals - no discussion

10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion

11) Other business - no discussion

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • next call will be on Thu 2006-02-22 starting at 10:30 am PST - Nicola Guarino will be speaking on "Making basic ontological choices: the DOLCE experience." - see: ConferenceCall_2006_02_02 ... see you there. RSVP!
  • the 4th Semantic Technology for eGoverment conference will be in session the following Thursday - shall we skip our regular call that week?
  • this call adjourned 11:51 am PST


minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.01.26-11:54 am PST