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* Attended:  
 
* Attended:  
** [[KurtConrad]]
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** KurtConrad  
** [[EMichaelMaximilien]]
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** EMichaelMaximilien  
  
 
* Expecting:  
 
* Expecting:  
** [[KurtConrad]]
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** KurtConrad  
** [[EMichaelMaximilien]]
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** EMichaelMaximilien  
 
** ''...(add your name here)...''  
 
** ''...(add your name here)...''  
  
 
* Regrets:  
 
* Regrets:  
** [[PeterYim]]
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** PeterYim  
** [[RexBrooks]] (will try to come, but likely not be able to)  
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** RexBrooks (will try to come, but likely not be able to)  
** [[MitchRinger]]
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** MitchRinger  
** [[BrandNiemann]]
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** BrandNiemann  
 
** [[BillMcCarthy]]  
 
** [[BillMcCarthy]]  
  
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1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda  
 
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda  
  
* [[KurtConrad]] took the chair and welcomed everyone.  
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* KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.  
  
 
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes  
 
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes  
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3) Regular agenda suspended with only two participants  
 
3) Regular agenda suspended with only two participants  
  
* [[EMichaelMaximilien]] trying to recruit some OWL-S experts for 2005.10.20 discussion.  
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* EMichaelMaximilien trying to recruit some OWL-S experts for 2005.10.20 discussion.  
  
 
Meeting ajourned at 10:51 PST.  
 
Meeting ajourned at 10:51 PST.  
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* Scheduled Ontolog Events  
 
* Scheduled Ontolog Events  
** Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - [[JonBosak]] - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_23]] - confirmed ([[KurtConrad]] / [[SusanTurnbull]] / [[PeterYim]])  
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** Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - JonBosak - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 - confirmed (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull / PeterYim)  
 
*** Ontolog members should note that this replaces our regular Thursday Sep. 22 meeting (i.e. '''no 9/22/05 call''')  
 
*** Ontolog members should note that this replaces our regular Thursday Sep. 22 meeting (i.e. '''no 9/22/05 call''')  
** Thu Oct. 13 2005 - [[BarrySmith]] - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_13]] - confirmed ([[BillMcCarthy]])  
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** Thu Oct. 13 2005 - BarrySmith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed ([[BillMcCarthy]])  
** Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: [[NicolasRouquette]] - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_20]]/Prep  
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** Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: NicolasRouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep]]
 
*** the original 10/27 date conflicts with the NCOR Inaugural Meeting, we are rescheduling this to Thu Oct. 20, 2005  
 
*** the original 10/27 date conflicts with the NCOR Inaugural Meeting, we are rescheduling this to Thu Oct. 20, 2005  
*** [[EMichaelMaximilien]] will join Nicolas in organizing this event  
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*** EMichaelMaximilien will join Nicolas in organizing this event  
*** [[NicolasRouquette]], [[JohnDomingue]], [[MichaelGruninger]] and [[EMichaelMaximilien]] are working together to prepare for it  
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*** NicolasRouquette, JohnDomingue, MichaelGruninger and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it  
 
* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months  
 
* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months  
 
** Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -  
 
** Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -  
 
*** John Sowa (suggested by [[BillMcCarthy]])  
 
*** John Sowa (suggested by [[BillMcCarthy]])  
*** [[DougLenat]] on the Cyc project (suggested by [[PeterYim]])  
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*** DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)  
*** [[NicolaGuarino]] on [[DOLCE]], possibly also [[BillAndersen]] or [[ChrisWelty]] (suggested by [[PeterYim]] & [[PatCassidy]])  
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*** NicolaGuarino on [[DOLCE]], possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)  
*** [[LarryReeker]] of NIST (suggested by [[SusanTurnbull]])  
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*** LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)  
*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & [[PeterYim]]'s [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse])  
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*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & PeterYim's [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse])  
*** [[JimSpohrer]] from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)  
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*** JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)  
 
** other suggestions:  
 
** other suggestions:  
 
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group  
 
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group  
 
*** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel  
 
*** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel  
 
*** Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project  
 
*** Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project  
**** Professor Dogac's work has also been previous [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_15_11#nid9DI recommended by] [[BrandNiemann]] - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ  
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**** Professor Dogac's work has also been previous [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_15_11#nid9DI recommended by] BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ  
 
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time  
 
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time  
*** Rex / Peter: XMDR - [[BruceBargmeyer]] or someone from his XMDR team  
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*** Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team  
*** [[PeterYim]] / [[ElisaKendall]]: [[PatHayes]], [[DeborahMcGuinness]]  
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*** PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, [[DeborahMcGuinness]]  
 
*** To be brought up for discussion today:  
 
*** To be brought up for discussion today:  
**** [[ChrisMenzel]]: [[BillAndersen]]
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**** ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen  
**** [[BrandNiemann]] / [[MarkMusen]] / [[PeterYim]]: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)  
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**** BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)  
**** [[BrandNiemann]] / [[PeterYim]]: [[RoyRoebuck]]
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**** BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck  
**** [[DuaneNickull]]: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html  
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**** DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html  
**** [[DuaneNickull]]: [[EricMiller]], Tim Berners-Lee of W3C  
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**** DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C  
**** [[PeterYim]] (new!): [[ChrisMenzel]] some time early 2006 (on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)  
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**** PeterYim (new!): ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 (on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)  
 
*** Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to  
 
*** Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to  
 
**** suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa  
 
**** suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa  
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* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:  
 
* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:  
 
** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful  
 
** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful  
** [[NicolasRouquette]] -- other topics lined up?  
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** NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?  
** a panel with speaker representating: [[SUMO]], [[OpenCyc]] Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by [[PeterYim]])  
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** a panel with speaker representating: [[SUMO]], OpenCyc Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by PeterYim)  
*** possibly teaming up with [[SICoP]] and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE  
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*** possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE  
 
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion  
 
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion  
 
** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel  
 
** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel  
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*** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)  
 
*** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)  
 
**** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.  
 
**** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.  
*** [[PeterYim]]: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"  
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*** PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"  
**** candidate panelists: [[BruceBargmeyer]], [[MarkCrawford]], [[ElisaKendall]], [[AdamPease]], [[MikeDaconta]], [[JimHendler]], [[SteveRay]] (moderator?)  
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**** candidate panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)  
**** maybe a joint [[SICoP]]-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?  
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**** maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?  
*** [[DuaneNickull]]: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it  
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*** DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it  
** 2005.09.01: [[EMichaelMaximilien]]: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.  
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** 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.  
 
*** Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog  
 
*** Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog  
 
**** Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session  
 
**** Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session  
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** Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)  
 
** Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)  
 
** OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. 15, 2005 - see: http://www.oasis-open.org/events/webinars/webinars.php  
 
** OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. 15, 2005 - see: http://www.oasis-open.org/events/webinars/webinars.php  
** Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the [[JonBosak]] joint-program with Ontolog; [[RexBrook]] et al. also presenting.  
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** Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the JonBosak joint-program with Ontolog; RexBrook et al. also presenting.  
 
** Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City  
 
** Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City  
 
** National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html  
 
** National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html  
 
*** wants to know if call-in is supported  
 
*** wants to know if call-in is supported  
  
* [[EdDodds]] / [[BobSmith]]: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006  
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* EdDodds / BobSmith: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006  
** [[PeterYim]]: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity".  
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** PeterYim: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity".  
  
 
* Duane: call for paper - http://www.ift.ulaval.ca/%7Ekone/SWIG06/CSWWS2006-blog.htm  
 
* Duane: call for paper - http://www.ift.ulaval.ca/%7Ekone/SWIG06/CSWWS2006-blog.htm  
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6) Follow-ups from previous calls  
 
6) Follow-ups from previous calls  
  
* post-mortem on the [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_08]] [[ElisaKendall]]'s invited speaker session  
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* post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_09_08 ElisaKendall's invited speaker session  
 
** what worked well  
 
** what worked well  
 
** what could be improved  
 
** what could be improved  
 
** ideas for the future  
 
** ideas for the future  
  
* possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by [[MikeDaconta]]) [attn: [[DuaneNickull]]]  
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* possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]  
 
** Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition  
 
** Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition  
 
** Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned  
 
** Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned  
 
*** Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group  
 
*** Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group  
** Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to [[PatCassidy]] or anyone else who would be interested  
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** Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to PatCassidy or anyone else who would be interested  
  
 
* Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on [[RegularConferenceCall]] scheduling  
 
* Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on [[RegularConferenceCall]] scheduling  
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* UBL liaison report  
 
* UBL liaison report  
  
* [[SICoP]] liaison report  
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* SICoP liaison report  
  
 
* Planning team report  
 
* Planning team report  
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* regular call adjourned 10:51 am PDT  
 
* regular call adjourned 10:51 am PDT  
 
* next call will be on Fri 2005-09-23 starting at 10:30 am PDT  
 
* next call will be on Fri 2005-09-23 starting at 10:30 am PDT  
** that will be the Ontolog-CEW Joint Invited Speaker session featuring [[JonBosak]] on: "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents."  
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** that will be the Ontolog-CEW Joint Invited Speaker session featuring JonBosak on: "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents."  
** See: [[ConferenceCall_2005_09_23]]
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** See: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23  
 
** Once again, this is going to be on a Friday (and not on our regular Thursday time slot.) There will be NO CALL on next thursday.  
 
** Once again, this is going to be on a Friday (and not on our regular Thursday time slot.) There will be NO CALL on next thursday.  
 
  
 
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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-15     (1)

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-15     (1A1)

Attendees     (1B)

Agenda Ideas     (1C)

Agenda & Proceedings     (1D)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda     (1D1)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes     (1D3)

3) Regular agenda suspended with only two participants     (1D5)

  • EMichaelMaximilien trying to recruit some OWL-S experts for 2005.10.20 discussion.     (1D6)

Meeting ajourned at 10:51 PST.     (1D7)

!!!! Remainder of Suspended Agenda     (1D8)

3) Roll-call of participants     (1D9)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)     (1D11)

  • Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:     (1D15)
    • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful     (1D15A)
    • NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?     (1D15B)
    • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)     (1D15C)
      • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE     (1D15C1)
    • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion     (1D15D)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel     (1D15E)
    • we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005     (1D15F)
    • candidates for November, 2005     (1D15G)
      • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"     (1D15G1)
      • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.     (1D15G2)
      • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion     (1D15G3)
      • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)     (1D15G4)
      • PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"     (1D15G5)
        • candidate panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)     (1D15G5A)
        • maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?     (1D15G5B)
      • DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it     (1D15G6)
    • 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.     (1D15H)
  • EdDodds / BobSmith: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006     (1D17)
    • PeterYim: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity".     (1D17A)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues     (1D19)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls     (1D20)

  • possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]     (1D22)
    • Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition     (1D22A)
    • Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned     (1D22B)
      • Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group     (1D22B1)
    • Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to PatCassidy or anyone else who would be interested     (1D22C)

7) Current Project Status Report     (1D24)

  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work     (1D27)
    • representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.     (1D27A)

8) project work session / discussion     (1D32)

9) New project proposals     (1D33)

10) Sponsorship and funding     (1D34)

11) Other business     (1D35)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn     (1D36)

  • regular call adjourned 10:51 am PDT     (1D37)
  • next call will be on Fri 2005-09-23 starting at 10:30 am PDT     (1D38)
    • that will be the Ontolog-CEW Joint Invited Speaker session featuring JonBosak on: "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents."     (1D38A)
    • See: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23     (1D38B)
    • Once again, this is going to be on a Friday (and not on our regular Thursday time slot.) There will be NO CALL on next thursday.     (1D38C)

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