<?xml version="1.0"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xml:lang="en">
	<id>https://ontologforum.com/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=IAOA_SWAO_SIG-confcall_n_11</id>
	<title>IAOA SWAO SIG-confcall n 11 - Revision history</title>
	<link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="https://ontologforum.com/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=IAOA_SWAO_SIG-confcall_n_11"/>
	<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://ontologforum.com/index.php?title=IAOA_SWAO_SIG-confcall_n_11&amp;action=history"/>
	<updated>2026-04-16T16:41:23Z</updated>
	<subtitle>Revision history for this page on the wiki</subtitle>
	<generator>MediaWiki 1.39.0</generator>
	<entry>
		<id>https://ontologforum.com/index.php?title=IAOA_SWAO_SIG-confcall_n_11&amp;diff=2829&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>imported&gt;KennethBaclawski: Fix PurpleMediaWiki references</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://ontologforum.com/index.php?title=IAOA_SWAO_SIG-confcall_n_11&amp;diff=2829&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2016-01-09T07:01:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fix PurpleMediaWiki references&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;float:right; margin-left: 10px;&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;row&amp;quot; | Number&lt;br /&gt;
| [[sequence::11]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;row&amp;quot; | Duration&lt;br /&gt;
| [[duration::1.5 hour]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;row&amp;quot; rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | Date/Time&lt;br /&gt;
| [[has date::Sep 08 2014 14:00 GMT]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 7:00 PDT/10:00 EDT&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 3:00pm BST/4:00pm CET&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;row&amp;quot; | Convener&lt;br /&gt;
| [[convener::LeoObrst]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Please note'' This meeting has been moved to 8 September 2014 because of the Labor Day public holiday in the US. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[ConnectionDetails]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Housekeeping&lt;br /&gt;
** Updates on website, wiki, email list&lt;br /&gt;
* Continue our discussion on creating an introductory online/training tutorial &lt;br /&gt;
** Update on actions from last time&lt;br /&gt;
*** Feedback to Education Committee of our discussions from last meeting&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;quot;Gentle introduction to ontologies&amp;quot; did we get this yet? &lt;br /&gt;
** Liaison with Education Committee Update&lt;br /&gt;
** Tutorial / training requirements&lt;br /&gt;
*** Target audiences: what do different groups need to see?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Target media: what do we want to be able to put out? &lt;br /&gt;
**** White paper for business people&lt;br /&gt;
**** Book longer term ambition?&lt;br /&gt;
** Existing resources we would want to collate and promote &lt;br /&gt;
*** See list of existing and upcoming publications we identified last time&lt;br /&gt;
**** Should we aim to maintain a library or is that in hand via Education Committee?&lt;br /&gt;
**** In particular with reference to our mission to bridge the gaps between communities&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion on an issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology related to reuse and lessons learned &lt;br /&gt;
* Ontology Summit&lt;br /&gt;
** Extending and discussing the work of 2014 Ontology Summit&lt;br /&gt;
** Ideas for 2015 Ontology Summit?&lt;br /&gt;
* Membership, recruitment etc.&lt;br /&gt;
** Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out&lt;br /&gt;
** Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG and reach out them to make them aware of our existence and maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat&lt;br /&gt;
** Establish knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests&lt;br /&gt;
* AOB&lt;br /&gt;
* Next Meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Previous Meeting: http://ontolog-02.cim3.net/w/index.php?title=IAOA_SWAO_SIG-confcall_n_10&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Minutes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Attended by: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Infrastructure issues ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]] reported on updates to the website, wiki and email list.&lt;br /&gt;
** There was a concern about the speed of transfer from the SWAO web link to this meeting, and the wiki page for this meeting.  [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] in particular found that some links take a long while. This is will be investigated by [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]] as part of the infrastructure development (Action Item).&lt;br /&gt;
** There was a discussion about problems with the link from http://www.iaoa.org/ to our SWAO web does not seem to be active. See the chat transcript for details.&lt;br /&gt;
*** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] suggested that we Check with Oliver for fixing link of IAOA SIG page to SWAO home page (Action Item).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Agenda item: Education ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Interaction with the Education Committee&lt;br /&gt;
** The short term objectives were agreed to be:&lt;br /&gt;
*** to gather syllabi from others&lt;br /&gt;
*** to link with the Ontology Summit to obtain material for a body of knowledge or text book&lt;br /&gt;
**** There was some concern about whether the format of the Summit would work for this purpose, but there is a precedent for this: &amp;quot;Creating the Ontologist of the Future&amp;quot; (Ontology Summit 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] will post mail to the Education Committee to start the discussion (Action Item).&lt;br /&gt;
*** One suggestion was that we should consider a joint meeting with them or invite them to come to our next meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Substantive ideas on Education ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Gentle Introduction to Ontologies&lt;br /&gt;
** [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]] raised the idea at the Ontology Summit symposium and plans to pursue developing it.&lt;br /&gt;
** It was agreed that we should try to have some of this available online.&lt;br /&gt;
* Another suggestion was a special issue of Applied Ontology.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] will investigate the mechanics of a special issue from the editors (Action Item).&lt;br /&gt;
*** Generally speaking, it is similar to a workshop.&lt;br /&gt;
** It was agreed that the special issue will focus on the theme of the Ontology Summit 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*** This already has a list of potential contributors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Ontology Summit ===&lt;br /&gt;
* There was some discussion about the upcoming Ontology Summit but no conclusions were reached.&lt;br /&gt;
* Action Item: Next Ontolog Forum Board of Trustees meeting needs to be organized by the next Chair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Membership, recruitment etc. ===&lt;br /&gt;
* It was agreed that we should post to the IAOA List periodically that the SWAO SIG is in existence and point to our web age, describe meeting cycles/logistics, current activities, etc. (Action Item)&lt;br /&gt;
** Examples of activities: education materials, advocacy for Ontology Summit theme, and special editing of Applied Ontology.&lt;br /&gt;
* Another suggestion was to target specific people and ask if they would like to participate.&lt;br /&gt;
** Especially representatives of other communities such as Linked Data.&lt;br /&gt;
* We should produce an introductory email for this purpose (Action Item).&lt;br /&gt;
** [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]] will produce a draft.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] will suggest mailing lists.&lt;br /&gt;
** All should suggest specific individuals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Next Meeting ===&lt;br /&gt;
* October 6, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Chat Transcript ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:10] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Housekeeping&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:13] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: MB hives a quick update&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:13] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]] reported on updates to the website, wiki and email list.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:15] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: http://ontolog-02.cim3.net/wiki/IAOA_SWAO_SIG&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:16] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Speed of transfer from SWAO web link to this meeting, and the wiki page for this meeting. On some links (Leo) this take a long while.&lt;br /&gt;
For MB's connection this was a little under a second.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:17] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: I will investigate this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:18] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Check link from http://www.iaoa.org/ to our SWAO web&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: There are 3 issues:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: No page about Semantic Web Applied Ontology&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Button at the top is misnamed (delete &amp;quot;meets&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:20] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: and that button currently seems to invoke a script on the SIGDesign.php (is that a design for a script SIG or a SIG for design??)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:21] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Check with Oliver for fixing link of IAOA SIG page to SWAO home page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:21] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Follow up with Oliver the webmaster&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: === Agenda item: Education ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Actions check: Action on getting feedback to the Education Committee&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: LO: this was discussed at the EC - short discussion. Short term objectives to gather syllabi from others, and also discussion on linking&lt;br /&gt;
with the Ontology Summit, material for body of knowledge or text book, how format of Summit would work for that purpose. Compared with an earlier Summit&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;shaping the Ontologist of the Future&amp;quot; if the ontology Summit were to be about developing a book.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Summary: Our ideas were fed to the EC and seem to have gone a long way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Education co-Chairs are Maria Keet and Zena Wood&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Education Committee has not met yet, may consider a joint meeting with them. Or invite SWAO SIG members to the EdC next meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: (or whatever we call it to disambiguate)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:31] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: Leo will post email to EdC, EC, and SWAO sig, to get the discussion moving.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: === Substantive ideas on Education ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:35] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]] raised the idea at the Ontology Summit symposium to create a Gentle Introduction to Ontologies, and was going to have a try at&lt;br /&gt;
this (this is how this bullet item has been on our agenda)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:35] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We want to try and have some of that available on line at IAOA somewhere, so people can find information at the horse's mouth as it&lt;br /&gt;
were.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:36] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Other substantive ideas: possibility Ontology Summit 2015 addressing some of these themes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:36] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Otherwise waiting on EduCtee before we do much more&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:37] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Issue of Applied Ontology: We may need to lead an effort to dig in to what would be required on Applied Ontology special issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:37] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Leo can find out the mechanics of what we would need to do and what the time lines are, for there being a Special Issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:38] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We would probably have to consider creating a topic, putting out a Request for Papers etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:38] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: if we want to do this we should consider convening a sub group e.g. now&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Leo will find out these requirements from the editors (Musen, Guarino) on structure, lead times, schedule etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Structure is a bit like a workshop, we put out a CfP, then select and build an issue. We would also have a list of people we can&lt;br /&gt;
specifically call on and ask for contributors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Assume focus is still on extending the activities of the 2014 Ontology Summit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:41] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Yes it is - all agree: Special Issue would be on the theme of the 2014 Ontology Summit and carry this forward. Contributors from that&lt;br /&gt;
summit could be approached for papers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:43] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Past Special Issue of Applied Ontology, the people who requested is typically act as editors for the content, and therefore are the ones&lt;br /&gt;
that put out the call for papers, and then help organize the review process of those papers and then the larger Editorial Committee (as for ordinary issues),&lt;br /&gt;
makes requests for people to review the paper.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:45] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: === Ontology Summit ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:45] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Potential theme not yet officially being talked about&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:47] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: need to round up these conversation threads between OFV, SWAO,IAOA itself and EduCtee&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:48] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Correction OFV was meant to be just OF I,e, Ontolog Forum&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:48] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Whose move is it?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:49] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: when is next Ontolog Forum Board of Trustees meeting? Chair gets to call it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: === Membership, recruitment etc. ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Are there things we can start doing now the infrastructure is sorted out&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:53] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Easy stuff: post to the IAOA List periodically that the SWAO SIG is in existence and point to our web age, describe meeting cycles etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:55] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We are now in a position to send an email around to the IAOA Member list.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:55] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: This would include activities we are working on now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:55] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also logistics (web, when we meet, how to join).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Activities to describe: education materials, advocacy for Ontology Summit theme, and special editing of Applied Ontology.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: these 2 activities are now under way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:57] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We can send something out periodically updating the IAOA membership about what we are doing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:57] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also we can target specific people and ask if they would like to participate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:58] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: For example folks who have spoken at previous Summits etc. - this is also why we wanted to relax the membership requirement so they&lt;br /&gt;
don't need to be IAOA Members.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:59] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also we want folks from other communities e.g. Linked Data to feel comfortable to join us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:59] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We could send our to-be-produced introductory email to those lists as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[07:59] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So we need an introductory email to send out as well as emailing specific people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:01] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Actions: Emails&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 1. IAOA one - probably an update of the messages sent previous.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 2. Tailor that / adapt it to external communities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also propose some lists to send it to.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:03] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: MB draft a suitable email. Points too the website, mail list joining info, then point at some of our activities, the frame it&lt;br /&gt;
that we invite participation etc. etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:04] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: LO can take it and modify, post to external lists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:04] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: All to consider specific individuals we would like to request to join.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We should exchange some names among ourselves via email before mailing them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:06] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We can also invite people we know personally one on one, to join.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:06] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Next scheduled meeting is Oct 6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:07] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: This does not seem to clash with anything&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:07] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We will follow up on the open actions etc. at that meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:09] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: The Board of Trustees meeting pages are incomplete or inconsistent. These should be cleaned up because the pages are now being migrated&lt;br /&gt;
from the old wiki to the new one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[08:09] List of attendees: [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Audio Recording ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/ontology/SWAO/IAOA-SWAO-SIG-ConferenceCall_20140908a.mp3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Previous Meetings ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#ask: [[Category:IAOA_SWAO]] [[Category:Icom_conf_Conference]] [[has date::&amp;lt;&amp;lt;{{#show:{{PAGENAME}}|?has date}}]] |?|mainlabel=-|sort=has date |order=desc |format=ul |limit=3}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IAOA_SWAO| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Icom_conf_Conference| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Occurrence| ]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>imported&gt;KennethBaclawski</name></author>
	</entry>
</feed>