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Forum: /* Ontology Summit 2025 {{#show:{{PAGENAME}}|?session}} */

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Ontology Summit 2025 {{#show:{{PAGENAME}}|?session}}

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	* Panel Discussion for Track 3		* Panel Discussion for Track 3
	** '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair		** '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair
			*** [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel-Introduction--MikeBennett_20250409.pdf Slides]
	** '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''		** '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''
	** '''Maxwell Gilmore'''		** '''Maxwell Gilmore'''
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	* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]		* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]
	* [https://youtu.be/6EbTm02xpfc YouTube Video]		* [https://youtu.be/6EbTm02xpfc YouTube Video]
			* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel-Introduction--MikeBennett_20250409.pdf Introductory Slides]

	== Previous Meetings ==		== Previous Meetings ==

Forum: /* Resources */

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Resources

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	== Resources ==		== Resources ==
	* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]		* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]
			* [https://youtu.be/6EbTm02xpfc YouTube Video]

	== Previous Meetings ==		== Previous Meetings ==

Forum: /* Agenda */

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Agenda

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	* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]		* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]
			* [https://youtu.be/6EbTm02xpfc YouTube Video]

	== Conference Call Information ==		== Conference Call Information ==

Forum: /* Resources */

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Resources

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	== Resources ==		== Resources ==
			* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]

	== Previous Meetings ==		== Previous Meetings ==

Forum: /* Agenda */

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Agenda

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
	Panel Discussion for Track 3		* Panel Discussion for Track 3
	* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair		** '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair
	* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''		** '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''
	* '''Maxwell Gilmore'''		** '''Maxwell Gilmore'''
	* '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''		** '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''

	This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:		* This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:
	* Truthmakers; perception; situation awareness		** Truthmakers; perception; situation awareness
	* Quality control of ontologies from the point of view of supporting theories		** Quality control of ontologies from the point of view of supporting theories
	* How can we make our devices and manipulators?		** How can we make our devices and manipulators?
	* How can we use theoretical knowledge to create our measurement and other tools?		** How can we use theoretical knowledge to create our measurement and other tools?
	* Data verbalization: any unit of data can be read out loud.		** Data verbalization: any unit of data can be read out loud.
	* Data visualization		** Data visualization

			* [https://ontologforum.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/OntologySummit2025/Track-3/Track3-Panel--MikeBennett_20250409.mp4 Video Recording]

	== Conference Call Information ==		== Conference Call Information ==

Forum: /* Agenda */

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Agenda

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	* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair		* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair
	* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''		* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''
			* '''Maxwell Gilmore'''
	* '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''		* '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''

Forum: /* Agenda */

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Agenda

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	* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair		* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair
	* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''		* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''
	* '''[[~~AlicanTuzun~~\|Alican ~~Tuzun~~]]'''		* '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''

	This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:		This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:

Forum: /* Agenda */

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Agenda

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
	Panel Discussion for Track 3		Panel Discussion for Track 3
			* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair
			* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''
			* '''[[AlicanTuzun\|Alican Tuzun]]'''

	This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:		This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:

Forum: /* Discussion */

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Discussion

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	== Discussion ==		== Discussion ==
			12:13 Ravi Sharma: What about your thoughts on non-enterprise aspects of metaphysics relating reality and data?<br/>
			12:16 Ravi Sharma: semantic concept is similar to meaning and vocabulary and are these two capable?<br/>
			12:18 Ravi Sharma: Digital cognitive memory concepts of John Sowa is powerful. Can it include your semantic concept<br/>
			12:20 Ravi Sharma: For the panel: and for Cory, what is the difficulty we have in treating information as an entity?

			12:22 Mark Underwood: Agree that scalability is not only difficult, but undesirable, Then what practical suggestions can be offered to constrain concept-related, semantic projects, which will not be given unlimited budgets before showing results?

			12:40 Ravi Sharma: Q for Maxwell is how relevant are formal economics concepts in this changing world?<br/>
			12:45 Ravi Sharma: Disruptive economic events such as pandemic or sovereign risks affecting each other affect the coupled economies hence how relevant are financial risk models for example? For Maxwell and Mike, please.<br/>
			12:48 Ravi Sharma: Maxwell differentiate or drill down vs abstraction?

			12:48 janet singer: Mike and Max: Yes! Better thinking through for appropriate conceptualizations.

			12:49 John Sowa: Ravi, anything can be treated as an entity just by using a symbol (word or other notation) to refer to it. QED (Quite Easily Done).

			12:54 janet singer: A body of formally represented knowledge is based on a conceptualization: the objects, concepts, and other entities that are presumed to exist in some area of interest and the relationships that hold among them (Genesereth & Nilsson, 1987). A conceptualization is an abstract, simplified view of the world that we wish to represent for some purpose. Every knowledge base, knowledge-based system, or knowledge-level agent is committed to some conceptualization, explicitly or implicitly.

			An ontology is an explicit specification of a conceptualization. The term is borrowed from philosophy, where an ontology is a systematic account of Existence. For knowledge-based systems, what “exists” is exactly that which can be represented. (T. Gruber in Knowledge Acquisition (1993) 5, 199-220)

			13:00 Mike Bennett: A Pandemic of Stupidity.
			* 13:00 Mark Underwood: 😂

			13:00 janet singer: The points made today get back to that point of view.
			* 13:02 John Sowa: Janet, that's a good summary of the issues.
			* 13:08 John Sowa: Janet, as before, I agree. But Gruber is not the source of that idea. It's as old as Aristotle. My favorite philosopher, Charles Sanders Peirce, developed the issues in much, much greater depth and detail.
			* 13:12 janet singer: Very true. As Peirce pointed out an important insight will be rediscovered many times. Gruber’s two paragraphs provide a good summary for today

			13:06 janet singer: Conceptualization determines what should ‘exist’ as in being represented, as opposed to ontology as ‘breaking the world apart at its joints’

			13:17 Mark Underwood: Thanks, all. Have to run

			13:17 John Sowa: As an example, when two banks merge, they never replace one bank's services by the services of the other banks. Instead, they run all the software of both banks..
			* 13:19 Mike Bennett: There's a tale of 2 insurance companies who merged and the resultant entity had a row of pot plants down the middle of the floor separating the 2 cultures.

			13:18 janet singer: Adding in the phenomenology label would be helpful.
			* 13:18 Mike Bennett: 👍
			* 13:19 Cory Casanave: 👍
			* 13:19 Alican Tüzün: 👍

	== Resources ==		== Resources ==

Forum: /* Agenda */

2025-04-09T15:53:05Z

Agenda

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
	Panel Discussion for Track 3		Panel Discussion for Track 3

			This track will cover a range of topics and questions such as:
			* Truthmakers; perception; situation awareness
			* Quality control of ontologies from the point of view of supporting theories
			* How can we make our devices and manipulators?
			* How can we use theoretical knowledge to create our measurement and other tools?
			* Data verbalization: any unit of data can be read out loud.
			* Data visualization

	== Conference Call Information ==		== Conference Call Information ==

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	* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair		* '''[[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]''' Track 3 Chair
	* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''		* '''[[CoryCasanave\|Cory Casanave]]'''
			* '''Maxwell Gilmore'''
	* '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''		* '''[[AlicanTüzün\|Alican Tüzün]]'''