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| [[duration::1 hour]]
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| [[has date::27 Oct 2021 16:00 GMT]]
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| 9:00am PDT/12:00pm EDT
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| 5:00pm BST/6:00pm CEST
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! scope="row" | Convener
| [[convener::KenBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
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== Agenda ==
* 12:00 to 13:00 EDT Planning for Ontology Summit 2022 [https://bit.ly/2ZTLu5N Video Recording]
* Reminder that Daylight Savings Time (Summer Time in Europe) ends on 31 October in Europe but on 7 November in the US and Canada. So the meeting time on next week on 3 November will be one hour earlier in Europe.

{{:OntologySummit2022/Theme}}

== Conference Call Information ==
* Date: '''Wednesday, 27 October 2021'''
* Start Time: 9:00am PDT / 12:00pm EDT / 6:00pm CEST / 5:00pm BST / 1600 UTC
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=27&year=2021&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=179 World Clock]
* Expected Call Duration: 1 hour
{{:OntologySummit2022/ConferenceCallInformation}}

== Attendees ==
* [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]
* [[CassiopeiaMiles|Cassiopeia Miles]]
* [[DouglasRMiles|Douglas R Miles]]
* [[GaryBergCross|Gary Berg-Cross]]
* [[JanetSinger|Janet Singer]]
* [[KenBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
* [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]
* [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]
* [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]

== Discussion ==
[12:25] Mike Bennett: If we want to look at overview / spectrum stuff some time, would it make sense to include pragmatics also (the role of context in determining meanings of symbols)

[12:26] RaviSharma: We discussed Lifecycle, Earth resources, pandemic and complex event processing

[12:27] AlexShkotin: role of ontology in disaster sounds funny - like as a disaster

[12:27] RaviSharma: role of ontologies in natural and human made disasters

[12:28] Mike Bennett: The potential value of ontologies in disaster scenarios?

[12:29] janet singer: Alex, that may be seen more clearly in hindsight

[12:31] Ram D. Sriram: Role of Ontologies in Natural and Man-made Disasters

[12:31] AlexShkotin: Janet, in the future

[12:33] AlexShkotin: It's like role of ontologies in Information Systems deal with Disasters.

[12:34] Mike Bennett: The issue is the absence of barriers to entry: people who don't know what they don't know, are able to create OWL files (syntax) and think they have dealt with semantics.

[12:36] AlexShkotin: Mike this is why every OWL2 ontology must refer to real texts where axioms came from.

[12:36] Mike Bennett: The firm as a whole needs to have something that formally situates syntax, semantics, semiotics and pragmatics. With that they will identify the need for the 3rd skill-set Gary mentioned just now - the not-the-IT, not-the-SME person who understands about semantics.

[12:37] janet singer: Mike, Definitely pragmatics needs to be brought out from the shadows for a systematic overview

[12:37] Mike Bennett: @Alex what's missing is someone who understands the (non trivial) relationships between texts and concepts.

[12:40] AlexShkotin: @Mike, any way when we verbalize ontology to text we need approval of this text from experts and proved texts.

[12:41] Douglas R. Miles:
* Here my friend is doing a planning system for Covid readiness https://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/behavior-tree-task-manager-for-covid-19.pdf
* Here is the impl https://gitlab.logicmoo.org/gitlab/logicmoo/logicmoo_workspace/-/blob/master/packs_sys/logicmoo_nlu/prolog/config_nomicmu/example_bt/coronavirus.pl
** This is a FOL representation
* Definitely he could do a talk on the system

[12:49] AlexShkotin: @Mike my point is that for ontologists as we known them it is forbidden to write their own texts - they must formalize existing texts

[12:54] Gary BC: Example of ESIP modeling some of the wildfires info flow https://esip.figshare.com/ndownloader/files/28828173

[12:56] AlexShkotin: It should be mention that for big pandemic disasters math models are a key point.

[12:59] RaviSharma: thanks Ken for the suggestions.

[13:00] Douglas R. Miles: Thank you Ken

== Resources ==
* [https://bit.ly/2ZTLu5N Video Recording]

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