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== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Synthesis
* '''Mark Fox''' on “ISO/IEC WG11 Data Standards for Public Health Emergencies and Related Ontologies”.
** [https://bit.ly/3IlgTzh Video Recording]
** Dr. Fox is a Distinguished Professor of Urban Systems Engineering, and Professor of Industrial Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Toronto.  He is the Director of the Urban Data Centre which is part of the University of Toronto's School of Cities. Dr. Fox is a Fellow of Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence, the Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineering, and the Engineering Institute of Canada. He received his BSc in Computer Science from the University of Toronto in 1975 and his PhD in Computer Science (Artificial Intelligence) from Carnegie Mellon University in 1983.
** [https://bit.ly/35ayATy Slides]
** [https://bit.ly/3gU9zhT Video Recording]


== Conference Call Information ==
== Conference Call Information ==
* Date: '''Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022'''  
* Date: '''Wednesday, 16 Feb 2022'''  
* Start Time: 9:00am PST / 12:00pm EST / 6:00pm CET / 5:00pm GMT / 1700 UTC  
* Start Time: 9:00am PST / 12:00pm EST / 6:00pm CET / 5:00pm GMT / 1700 UTC  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=02&day=23&year=2022&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=179 World Clock]  
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=02&day=16&year=2022&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=179 World Clock]  
* Expected Call Duration: 1 hour
* Expected Call Duration: 1 hour
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== Attendees ==
== Attendees ==
* [[AndrewDougherty|Andrew Dougherty]]
* [[AndrewDougherty|Andrew Dougherty]]
* [[BevCorwin|Bev Corwin]]
* [[BobbinTeegarden|Bobbin Teegarden]]
* [[CassiopeiaMiles|Cassiopeia Miles]]
* [[CassiopeiaMiles|Cassiopeia Miles]]
* [[ChrisAhern|Chris Ahern]]
* [[DougHolmes|Doug Holmes]]
* [[DouglasRMiles|Douglas R Miles]]
* [[DouglasRMiles|Douglas R Miles]]
* [[GaryBergCross|Gary Berg-Cross]]
* [[GaryBergCross|Gary Berg-Cross]]
* [[GeorgeHurlburt|George Hurlburt]]
* [[JanetSinger|Janet Singer]]
* [[JanetSinger|Janet Singer]]
* [[JulaineClunis|Julaine Clunis]]
* [[KenBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
* [[KenBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
* [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]
* [[MarciaZeng|Marcia Zeng]]
* [[MariyaEvtimova|Mariya Evtimova]]
* [[MarkFox|Mark Fox]]
* [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]]
* [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]
* [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]
* [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]
* [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
* [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]


== Discussion ==
== Discussion ==
[12:06] Gary Berg-Cross: I would add that the Launch had some ideas, such as the Semantic spectrum as a frame.
[12:11] RaviSharma: Welcome everyone!
Another is the challenge of diverse definitions  The chat asked Is there common 'agreement' on the definition of 'disaster'?
The UN DRR is a start:


A serious disruption of the functioning of a community or society involving widespread human, material, economic or environmental losses and impacts, which exceeds the ability of the affected community or society to cope with using its own resources.
[12:12] RaviSharma: Prof Fox, are you able to interoperate with Digital twins solutions or ecosystems?


[12:12] Gary Berg-Cross: I think that we can leverage much from Mark Fox's talk on Public Health Events (within a city framework).  He covered ontology design patterns/modules and light ontology work.
[12:18] RaviSharma: Dr Fox - Vocabularies for shared information from citywide emergencies or only about Public Health Engineering?


[12:14] RaviSharma: Todd and Gary suggestions on Ken's Q on disaster meaning.
[12:24] RaviSharma: Thanks for referring to Doug Lenat's presentation, he is likely to speak again to expand on his talk and answer Qs,


[12:15] RaviSharma: Risk - is not context dependent
[12:27] RaviSharma: I wish Azamat was here to see that ontology was adequately discussed! We will have recording available for all.


[12:15] RaviSharma: Gary said look at ontologies
[12:30] RaviSharma: Can you make the logic such that it goes deep to the usable level? i.e. as deep as city public health dept can handle? selectable depth?


[12:16] RaviSharma: Gary look at Mark Fox talk for cities.
[12:35] RaviSharma: Why are microtheories not being used?


[12:16] RaviSharma: pandemic health risk
[12:36] RaviSharma: Can funding authority's budgets and city council's be used to adopt the city standard? UN World Bank, etc?


[12:17] RaviSharma: Janet - parametric view
[12:38] MichaelGruninger: One obstacle to ontology-based standards is the Absurdity of the Obvious. First, people don't think there need to be standards because from their perspective, the semantics of terms is obvious. But then, when they talk with other groups, discover that not only do they disagree with their semantics, but consider absurd what others think is obvious.


[12:18] RaviSharma: ontological view of disasters Janet and Todd
[12:40] RaviSharma: Yes, Michael, miscommunication is at the root of what you are describing, also common interests, etc.


[12:19] RaviSharma: Gary said about OGC
[12:44] RaviSharma: How do you show the external agencies, regions and federal government the advantages of collaboration?


[12:22] Andrew Dougherty: OpenCYC has #$DisasterEvent
[12:47] ToddSchneider: 'Resident' should likely be represented as a 'Role'. Residency is not a permanent condition.


[12:28] Gary Berg-Cross: Parameters to understand pandemics include incubation period, transmissibility, the average stay in hospital, proportion of reported cases, proportion of deaths amount critial cases....from "Ten Epidemiological Parameters of COVID-19: Use of Rapid Literature Review to Inform Predictive Models During the Pandemic"
[12:49] ToddSchneider: How is 'Manifestation' defined?


[12:29] Gary Berg-Cross: KG speakers Chris and Justin
[12:59] RaviSharma: Correlation - how is it handled like floods and cholera water quality?


[12:33] RaviSharma: Ram outlined overview, start with definitions, patterns and speakers
[13:03] ToddSchneider: 'Changes' can be enforced if the enforcer has control of the money.


[12:33] RaviSharma: Janet reiterated that and a few diagrams in communique
[13:08] RaviSharma: msf@eil.utoronto.ca


[12:34] Gary Berg-Cross: Mark made the point, that we can include in our communique that investigators  of disasters seek a deep  understanding  of  the extent  to  which  legacy  systems  have  created  disaster data  silos  across  the departments/divisions/areas dealing with disasters.
[13:12] RaviSharma: Ontology.eil.utoronto.ca
A  first  step  to  breaking  down  the  silos  is  the  creation  of  data  standards.  Stating that Data  Standards  for  X  is  the  most  important  is  not  helpful
 
[12:36] Gary Berg-Cross: Alternate definition of Disaster - any accidental, natural or malicious event which threatens or
disrupts normal operations, or services, for sufficient time to affect significantly,or to cause failure of, the enterprise. from Glossary of Disaster
Management Terms
 
[12:37] ToddSchneider: From https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:22300:ed-3:v1:en:term:3.1.73.: Disaster - 3.1.73
disaster
situation where widespread human, material, economic or environmental losses have occurred that exceeded the ability of the affected organization (3.1.165), community (3.1.39) or society to respond and recover using its own resources (3.1.207)
 
[12:38] Andrew Dougherty: A specialization of #$Emergency.  Each instance of #$DisasterEvent is a #$PhysicalDestructionEvent in which at least some of the objects destroyed or harmed are considered to be of significant value.  (We use 'value' in its most general sense, to include monetary value, social value, moral value, etc.)  Obviously, this is a very subjective and norm-laden concept; however, there are many things which <i>clearly</i> qualify as #$DisasterEvents, e.g. #$TitanicSinking, #$BombingOfHiroshima, and #$TerroristAttack-September-11-2001-NYC-PENN-WDC.  Two important specializations are #$NaturalDisaster and #$ManMadeDisaster.
 
[12:41] RaviSharma: Janet - Cyc definition, other dimensions, speakers comments, etc
 
[12:42] RaviSharma: Todd - what were discussed, organize and highlight, use some of it in communique
 
[12:43] RaviSharma: Gary - talks, semantics, used by speakers, semantic approach to disasters, also KG
 
[12:45] RaviSharma: Ram- we are in the front end of laying foundations for theme of summit and connect the stories
 
[12:45] RaviSharma: Disasters - fundamental, Doug, mark, and others. from Ram
 
[12:46] Gary Berg-Cross: Smart cities shows and model levels approach
 
Service Level (5087-n) spans concepts commonly associated
with a particular service but still shared with other services,
such as Vehicles and Transportation network. Can be read by
multiple services, but updated only by one service.
 
City Level (5087-2) spans concepts that are general to cities
and span all services such as Households, Services, Residents.
Can be read and updated by multiple services.
 
Foundation  Level  (5087-1)  spans  very  general  concepts  such as  Time,  Location,  and  Activity,  upon  which  other  levels  are based.
 
[12:47] ToddSchneider: 0Since this is the 'Ontology Summit' how can the use of an ontological approach or the use of ontologies aid in 'disaster' planning, mitigation, or responses?
 
[12:49] Gary Berg-Cross: We talk about risks in a disaster such as on human, material, economic and environmental losses and impacts.
 
[12:55] RaviSharma: Andrew and Doug volunteered to create a summary of Doug's talk on Cyc
 
[12:56] RaviSharma: Ravi reminded that Doug Cyc needs feedback from his talk, Qs and comments, etc.
 
[12:59] RaviSharma: Three other talks, volunteers needed, Josh OGC Pilot, (Andrew Volunteered)
 
[13:01] RaviSharma: We have to schedule Andrew on April 13 or April 20
 
[13:02] RaviSharma: Doug Lenat talk has been viewed 1000 times (reviewed)
 
[13:02] RaviSharma: Other sessions views are in hundreds stats from Ken
 
[13:03] RaviSharma: Cas will try to Summarize the first talk
 
[13:03] Janet singer: Factors from the definitions of disaster, each evoking interesting parameters 1) a physical event 2) with risks 3) of harmful/disruptive/destructive impacts 4) on objects, services, systems 5) valued at various scales 6) according to economic, social, moral criteria
 
[13:04] RaviSharma: we still need two more for other speakers
 
[13:06] Janet singer: adding 7) evaluation from the perspective of some stakeholder (may be positive for some stakeholders while negative for others)
 
[13:08] Cas Miles: loosely associated thought: It seems several relief foundations define disasters with an element of 'capacity' of a community as well, "Disasters are serious disruptions to the functioning of a community that exceed its capacity to cope using its own resources." (but I'm not sure how that would work with existing ontologies or who and how capacity is defined yet.)
 
[13:11] RaviSharma: to Ken - request - we need to consolidate all comments relating to Cyc from Doug Miles and Andrew to send to Cyc Doug Lenat
 
[15:06] Douglas R. Miles: BTW..  at first I offered to do a summary of Lenat's talk but everyone realized it have very little to do with disasters and decided no one would need to summarize his talk..  So instead what we want is a description of what Cyc has along the lines of representing Risks and Disasters.
 
[15:06] Douglas R. Miles: Is that correct @Ken ?
 
[20:24] Ken Baclawski: @Douglas R. Miles: Yes that is correct.


== Resources ==
== Resources ==
* [https://bit.ly/3IlgTzh Video Recording]
* [https://bit.ly/35ayATy Slides]
* [https://bit.ly/3gU9zhT Video Recording]
* [https://youtu.be/N-Fz8Sv122E YouTube Video]


== Previous Meetings ==
== Previous Meetings ==
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== Next Meetings ==
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Latest revision as of 18:30, 16 December 2022

Session Mark Fox
Duration 1 hour
Date/Time 16 Feb 2022 17:00 GMT
9:00am PST/12:00pm EST
5:00pm GMT/6:00pm CET
Convener Ravi Sharma
Track Disaster Landscape

Ontology Summit 2022 Mark Fox

Dealing with Disasters

The COVID-19 pandemic as well as other pandemics and disasters have prompted an impressive, worldwide response by governments, industry, and the academic community. Ontologies can play a significant role in search, data description, interoperability and harmonization of the increasingly large data sources that are relevant to disasters such as the COVID-19 pandemic. The Ontology Summit 2022 examined the overall landscape of disasters and related ontologies. A framework consisting of a set of dimensions was developed to characterize this landscape. The framework was applied to health-related disasters, environmental disasters, as well as aerospace and cyberspace disasters. It was found that there are many cross-domain linkages between different kinds of disasters and that ontologies developed for one kind of disaster can be repurposed for other kinds. A representative sample of projects that have been developing and using ontologies for disaster monitoring and response management is presented to illustrate best practices and lessons learned. The Communiqué ends by presenting the findings and recommendations of the summit.

Agenda

  • Mark Fox on “ISO/IEC WG11 Data Standards for Public Health Emergencies and Related Ontologies”.
    • Dr. Fox is a Distinguished Professor of Urban Systems Engineering, and Professor of Industrial Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Toronto. He is the Director of the Urban Data Centre which is part of the University of Toronto's School of Cities. Dr. Fox is a Fellow of Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence, the Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineering, and the Engineering Institute of Canada. He received his BSc in Computer Science from the University of Toronto in 1975 and his PhD in Computer Science (Artificial Intelligence) from Carnegie Mellon University in 1983.
    • Slides
    • Video Recording

Conference Call Information

  • Date: Wednesday, 16 Feb 2022
  • Start Time: 9:00am PST / 12:00pm EST / 6:00pm CET / 5:00pm GMT / 1700 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1 hour
  • The Video Conference URL is https://bit.ly/3rTKSGQ
    • Meeting ID: 881 4427 2329
    • Passcode: 553714
  • Chat Room: https://bit.ly/37g93pC
    • If the chat room is not available, then use the Zoom chat room.
  • One tap mobile

Attendees

Discussion

[12:11] RaviSharma: Welcome everyone!

[12:12] RaviSharma: Prof Fox, are you able to interoperate with Digital twins solutions or ecosystems?

[12:18] RaviSharma: Dr Fox - Vocabularies for shared information from citywide emergencies or only about Public Health Engineering?

[12:24] RaviSharma: Thanks for referring to Doug Lenat's presentation, he is likely to speak again to expand on his talk and answer Qs,

[12:27] RaviSharma: I wish Azamat was here to see that ontology was adequately discussed! We will have recording available for all.

[12:30] RaviSharma: Can you make the logic such that it goes deep to the usable level? i.e. as deep as city public health dept can handle? selectable depth?

[12:35] RaviSharma: Why are microtheories not being used?

[12:36] RaviSharma: Can funding authority's budgets and city council's be used to adopt the city standard? UN World Bank, etc?

[12:38] MichaelGruninger: One obstacle to ontology-based standards is the Absurdity of the Obvious. First, people don't think there need to be standards because from their perspective, the semantics of terms is obvious. But then, when they talk with other groups, discover that not only do they disagree with their semantics, but consider absurd what others think is obvious.

[12:40] RaviSharma: Yes, Michael, miscommunication is at the root of what you are describing, also common interests, etc.

[12:44] RaviSharma: How do you show the external agencies, regions and federal government the advantages of collaboration?

[12:47] ToddSchneider: 'Resident' should likely be represented as a 'Role'. Residency is not a permanent condition.

[12:49] ToddSchneider: How is 'Manifestation' defined?

[12:59] RaviSharma: Correlation - how is it handled like floods and cholera water quality?

[13:03] ToddSchneider: 'Changes' can be enforced if the enforcer has control of the money.

[13:08] RaviSharma: msf@eil.utoronto.ca

[13:12] RaviSharma: Ontology.eil.utoronto.ca

Resources

Previous Meetings

 Session
ConferenceCall 2022 02 09COVID-19 KGs
ConferenceCall 2022 02 02CYC
ConferenceCall 2022 01 26General Disaster Parametric Landscape
... further results

Next Meetings

 Session
ConferenceCall 2022 02 23Synthesis
ConferenceCall 2022 03 02Workshop Report
ConferenceCall 2022 03 09Knowledge Graph Approach to Combat COVID-19
... further results
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