Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee Meeting - Tue 2007.01.30

• Topic: First Meeting (v1.1, continuation) of the full Organizing Committee for OntologySummit2007

• Session Chair: SteveRay (NIST)

Conference Call Details

• Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007
• Start Time: 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET / 16:00 GMT/UTC
  • ref: World Clock
• Expected Call Duration: 1.0 hours
• Dial-in Number:
  • from a telephone (US): +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)
  • from a phone (Europe): 0870-738-0763(UK) or 01805 00 7620 (Germany)
  • callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers
  • Conference ID: "5823120#"
  • Direct call from from Skype: +990008275823120

• Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
  • view-only password: "ontolog"

• RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated.

Attendees

• Attended
  • Steve Ray (NIST)
  • Peter P. Yim (Ontolog, CIM3)
  • Olivier Bodenreider (NLM, NIH)
  • Leo Obrst (Ontolog, MITRE)
  • Ivan Herman (W3C)
  • David Weinberger (Harvard Berkman Center for Internet & Society)

• Expecting
  • Frank Olken (NSF)
  • Barry Smith (NCOR, SUNY-Buffalo)
  • Chris Welty (IBM Research)

• Regrets:
  • DeborahMcGuinness (Stanford KSL)
  • Mark Musen (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
  • Nicola Guarino (LOA-CNR.IT)

Agenda Ideas

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Agenda & Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

• Steve Ray took the chair and welcomed everyone
• Peter P. Yim volunteered to take minutes of the meeting

2. Roll Call:

• see above

3. Urgent Issues:

• Mailing list distribution issue - ref: http://interop.cim3.net/forum//ontology-summit-org/2007-01/msg00027.html
  • confirm now OK: Leo, Chris & David
  • still missing response from: Frank

4. Outstanding Issues:

• introduction among the members
• aligning everyone's expectations as well as their understanding of our objectives

5. New Issues:

• 2007.01.18 Launch Meeting postmortem
• Organizing Committee Membership
  • missing responses / confirmations
  • more web 2.0 representation - maybe as convener; ping other organizing committee members for suggestion
    • David (and his friend Peter Merholv) suggested: Gene, Karen, Margaret, Chiara & Paolo
      • David will try to engage these people on our behalf (or see who else they would suggest)
    • invitations have since been extended to those individuals
    • as well as to PaolaDiMaio (current Ontolog member)
• discussion: our deliverables
  • 3 months of virtual discourse
  • 3 half-day face-to-face technical workshop
    • (a) ...
    • (b) ...
    • (c) ...
  • a half-day open public meeting (with press)
  • a written communique
  • new: how about a poster? (--suggested: ppy / 2007.01.22)
• discussion: our approach & process
  • Nicola: short position papers
    • Leo: hope the wiki page will help contain that ... with "gardeners" to administer them
  • David / Steve / Peter : defining ontologies should not be the goal here ... more like reaching an understanding of what each community refers to when they say "ontology"
    • Steve / David: think we should need to be "very approachable" and simple, at least at first encounter
  • Ivan: no need to draw distinction between EU and US semantic web communities
  • Ivan: Chris Welty is chairing a Rules working group that is also putting rules and reasoning into a similar framework
  • Ivan: be careful on the use of the word "ontology" because it scares away the layman ... I use "vocabulary", but that probably isn't the right word
    • Leo: I would make distinction between "terminology" and "ontology"
• Assessment of current progress
  • seeding the discussion?
  • assigning / self-selecting thread moderators?
  • co-editor volunteers solicitation?
• distributing the organizing chore
  • engaging participants from specific target communties
    • formal ontologist
    • XML community - OASIS - Peter to contact Patrick Gannon
    • semantic web communities
      • RDF community
      • OWL-DL (discription logic) community
      • OWL full community
    • the Applications Development community
      • database community
      • UML community - Steve: will ask Conrad Bock & Evan Wallace; Leo: Elisa Kendall too ... it's great that they all straddle both ontologies and object models
      • software engineering / programmer community
    • FOAF community - Ivan: it is spread out and no one seems to be leading now
    • Micro-Formats (GRDDL) community - ?
    • Concept Map community
    • SEARCH community - Chris Welty might point us to something given IBM's work in UIMA
      • statistical
      • semantic
    • wiki & semantic wiki community -
    • Web 2.0 community (social network, folksonomy) - David is championing
      • Ivan: suggesting again Tom Gruber - Peter: DeborahMcGuinness will be the person to help us, hopefully
        • Tom Gruber contacted and confirmed (--ppy/2007.02.01 with help from PatHayes)
    • Thesauri community - Christiane Fellbaum
    • metadata world / dublin core / SKOS / Librarians / Taxonomists / KM community - Denise Bedford; Ivan also suggests Thomas Baker
    • ISO-11179 folks - Frank Olken is our man
  • drafting the communique
  • ...
  • Leo: 10 dimensions (see 1/25/07 post); get people to post under an appropriate subject line
  • Olivier: take advantage of the wiki; list the things that we don't want to discussed
  • Peter: as Steve mentioned, I'll "garden" the wiki, but I'll need help

6. Any Other Business:

• to get W3C's official involvement in this initiative, Ivan suggests:
  • contact Ian Jacobs <ij-at-w3.org> who is the communications chair
  • mention that Chris and Ivan are already involved in the organizing committee
  • W3C might be more receptive to "co-sponsor" than "co-organizer"

• Steve will make a post to get the conversation organized

• Peter will send an invitation to Thomas Baker and refer him to Ivan

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

• it is agreed that the next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 6-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET.
  • ref: world clock

• Regular Weekly Meetings:
  • choice of regular weekly sync-up call time slot - 30 minutes, starting: Tuesdays 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST
    • Nicola's preference Monday through Thursday 1:30~2:30pm EST / 10:30~11:30am PST / 7:30~8:30pm CET -- Thursdays are out because of a conflict with regularly scheduled Ontolog events
  • Deborah's suggested: Mon, Tue or Wednesdays, 11:30am~12:30pm EST / 8:30~9:30am PST / 5:30~6:30pm CET; sometimes i could make 8am PST / 11am EST / 5pm CET on friday
  • Steve: The one day I can't meet is Wednesdays after 1:30pm EST / 10:30am PST / 7:30pm CET
  • Ivan: Tuesday evening would be *ideal* for me at those times. Mondays and Wednesdays are not

possible *at all* at those times.

• • Peter: Tuesdays are ok now ... I have rescheduled other things to open up Tuesdays now.

• Call adjourned at: 9:02am PST / 12:02pm EST

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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2007.01.30-9:02am PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.