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Ontology Summit 2013: Panel Session-11 - Thu 2013-03-28     (1)

Summit Theme: "Ontology Evaluation Across the Ontology Lifecycle"     (1A)

Summit Track Title: Hackathon-Clinics Activities     (1B)

Session Topic: The Ontology Summit 2013 Hackathon & Clinics Program Launch     (1C)

Session Co-chairs: Mr. MikeDean (Raytheon-BBN), Professor KenBaclawski (Northeastern U) and Mr. PeterYim (CIM3; Ontolog) - intro slides     (1D)

Panelists / Briefings:     (1E)

Abstract     (1P)

This is our 8th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Ontology Evaluation Across the Ontology Lifecycle."     (1P2)

Currently, there is no agreed methodology for development of ontologies, and there are no universally agreed metrics for ontology evaluation. At the same time, everybody agrees that there are a lot of badly engineered ontologies out there, thus people use -- at least implicitly -- some criteria for the evaluation of ontologies.     (1P3)

During this Ontology Summit, we seek to identify best practices for ontology development and evaluation. We will consider the entire lifecycle of an ontology -- from requirements gathering and analysis, through to design and implementation. In this endeavor, the Summit will seek collaboration with the software engineering and knowledge acquisition communities. Research in these fields has led to several mature models for the software lifecycle and the design of knowledge-based systems, and we expect that fruitful interaction among all participants will lead to a consensus for a methodology within ontological engineering. Following earlier Ontology Summit practice, the synthesized results of this season's discourse will be published as a Communique.     (1P4)

At the Launch Event on 17 Jan 2013, the organizing team provided an overview of the program, and how we will be framing the discourse around the theme of of this OntologySummit. Today's session is one of the events planned.     (1P5)

In this 11th virtual panel session of the Summit, we are launching the Ontology Summit 2013 Hackathon & Clinics program, a series of activities that will take place over the 3 coming weekends. Seven (7) Hackathon-Clinics projects with particular relevance to the Ontology Summit and/or this year's "Ontology Evaluation" theme were identified from among the proposals received, and will be featured virtually on Mar-30, Apr-6 and Apr-13. During this session, we will hear about this Hackathon-Clinics; its objectives, what each featured project will entail, the calendar, schedule, process, facilities and expert consultation support and other relevant details.     (1P6)

Besides the collaborators who have signed up to participate in these projects, the program is open to all who are interested. Drop-in participants are welcome to participate or observe as these Hackathon-Clinics projects take place. Find out the details today, and come join us when these projects are featured!     (1P7)

More details about this Ontology Summit is available at: OntologySummit2013 (homepage for this summit)     (1P8)

Agenda     (1Q)

OntologySummit2013 Session-11: "The OntologySummit2013_Hackathon_Clinics Launch"     (1Q1)

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call     (1Q2)

Proceedings     (1R)

Please refer to the above     (1R1)

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session    (1R2)

see raw transcript here.     (1R2A)

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)     (1R2B)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.     (1R2C)

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --     (1R2D)


Chat transcript from room: summit_20130328     (1R2E)

2013-03-28 GMT-08:00 [PDT]     (1R2F)


[9:17] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the     (1R2G)

Ontology Summit 2013: Virtual Panel Session-11 - Thu 2013-03-28     (1R2H)

Summit Theme: Ontology Evaluation Across the Ontology Lifecycle     (1R2I)

Session Topic: The Ontology Summit 2013 Hackathon & Clinics Launch     (1R2K)

Panelists / Briefings:     (1R2M)

- "HC-05. Hackathon: Ontology of Ontology Evaluation"     (1R2O)

- "HC-06. ISO 15926 Reference Data Validation"     (1R2Q)

- "HC-02. The General Ontology Evaluation Framework (GOEF) & the I-Choose Use Case"     (1R2S)

- "HC-04. Ontology Summit 2013 Content Hack: Leveraging Semantics on OntologPSMW - (a) the website"     (1R2U)

- "HC-04. Ontology Summit 2013 Content Hack: Leveraging Semantics on OntologPSMW - (b) the underlying technology"     (1R2W)

- "HC-01. BACnet Ontology Hackathon"     (1R2Y)

- "HC-03. FIBO Ontology Evaluation with OOPS!, OQuaRE and Other Tools"     (1R2AA)

- "HC-07. Ontohub-OOR-OOPS! Integration" slides     (1R2AC)

Logistics:     (1R2AF)

  • (if you haven't already done so) please click on "settings" (top center) and morph from "anonymous" to your RealName (in WikiWord format)     (1R2AH)
    • for Linux Skype users: please note that the dial-pad is only available on v4.1 (or later or the earlier Skype versions 2.x,)     (1R2AL1)

if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it.     (1R2AM)

  • Note: ... it has come to our attention that our conference bridge provider is running into some     (1R2AN)

problems with the "joinconference" skype connections. In case anyone gets in trouble, please try to     (1R2AO)

call the phone numbers instead (e.g. from your phone, skype-out, google-voice, etc.)     (1R2AP)

Proceedings     (1R2AW)

[9:34] Amanda Vizedom: In case it isn't just me: the slide links accompanying the full     (1R2AZ)

Panelist/Briefings descriptions all worked for me, but not all of the links under "Prepared     (1R2AAA)

presentation material (slides)" did.     (1R2AAB)

[9:35] Joanne Luciano: i lost sound     (1R2AAC)

[9:36] Peter P. Yim: @Joanne - can you try calling into the phone line, please     (1R2AAD)

[9:37] Joanne Luciano: we're back in (had to dial - skype flaky)     (1R2AAE)

[9:41] Joel Bender: @Peter - I'm having a hell of a mess getting connected - sorry -     (1R2AAF)

[9:42] Peter P. Yim: @Joel - skype has been problematic lately (in the US) can you try calling into the     (1R2AAG)

phone line, please     (1R2AAH)

[9:42] Peter P. Yim: ... see above note (right above "Proceedings")     (1R2AAI)

[9:52] Joel Bender: @Peter - I think I'm in     (1R2AAJ)

[9:57] Peter P. Yim: @Joel - great!     (1R2AAK)

[9:35] Peter P. Yim: == Mike Dean opens the session on behalf of the co-chairs ... see: the [0-Chair]     (1R2AAL)

[9:35] anonymous1 morphed into Doug Foxvog     (1R2AAN)

[9:35] anonymous morphed into Bobbin Teegarden     (1R2AAO)

[9:36] anonymous morphed into Elisa Kendall     (1R2AAP)

[9:38] anonymous1 morphed into Djoko Sayogo     (1R2AAQ)

[9:38] anonymous morphed into JeffBraswell     (1R2AAR)

[9:41] Peter P. Yim: == Amanda Vizedom presenting ... see: the [ HC-05-Vizedom ] slides     (1R2AAS)

[9:41] anonymous1 morphed into NicolauDePaula     (1R2AAT)

[9:43] Joanne Luciano: @Amanda - may want to use JamesMichaelis's provenance work (see our GOEF     (1R2AAU)

presentation) later or contact him directly     (1R2AAV)

[9:56] Amanda Vizedom: @Joanne - noted.     (1R2AAW)

[9:47] Doug Foxvog: I find this Saturday & Sunday a very awkward time for a Hackathon, as (at least     (1R2AAX)

for me) this is a weekend that family gets together. I might be able to handle Sat. morning.     (1R2AAY)

[9:49] Doug Foxvog: I'll put together a minimal submission, Amanda.     (1R2AAZ)

[9:51] Amanda Vizedom: @doug - understood. Whatever time you can make would be appreciated!     (1R2AAAA)

[9:49] Matthew West: @Amanda: I won't have time to participate in real time, but I would be     (1R2AAAB)

interested to take a look at and review the conceptual ontology you produce.     (1R2AAAC)

[9:53] Amanda Vizedom: Matthew, that's great. We will have it up publicly at the end of day 1.     (1R2AAAD)

[9:52] David Whitten: Amanda, could you clarify again the mechanics of your Hackathon? Is it an     (1R2AAAE)

in-person one, or by-phone-conference, or ???     (1R2AAAF)

[9:55] Amanda Vizedom: Oh, sorry Dave - it is remote, using a combination of tools - starting with an     (1R2AAAG)

open webcast using ontolog / summit channels, then moving to some combination of slide share/ chat/     (1R2AAAH)

file sharing support that works for all participants (e.g., Google+ Hangout is an option).     (1R2AAAI)

[9:57] Peter P. Yim: @DavidWhitten - there will be a presentation on process and schedule details later     (1R2AAAJ)

in this session (after all the project intros)     (1R2AAAK)

[9:43] Peter P. Yim: @MikeDean - we still have about 10 people on the call who are not on the chat ...     (1R2AAAL)

please prompt them when you have a chance (in between speakers)     (1R2AAAM)

[9:48] Joanne Luciano: How much time to i/we have to present (GOEF)?     (1R2AAAN)

[9:48] Mike Dean: @Joanne 8 minutes     (1R2AAAO)

[9:48] Joanne Luciano: thanks Mike.     (1R2AAAP)

[10:01] Arturo Sanchez: @AmandaVizedom: Sorry if you have discussed this already ... have you decided     (1R2AAAQ)

on formalisms/languages/tools that will be used to express the conceptual models? ... (You just     (1R2AAAR)

mentioned briefly that ... but if you can elaborate a little that would be great. Thanks!)     (1R2AAAS)

[10:06] Amanda Vizedom: @Arturo - Not yet committed, but here are some considerations: I'd like to be     (1R2AAAT)

able to confer with all participants re: comfort and access. flexible graphical tools may work best.     (1R2AAAU)

I don't want to pre-commit to language of formal model, so the graphical OWL viewers are probably     (1R2AAAV)

not optimal. If we go graphical, we may deal with the difficulty of multidimensional visualization     (1R2AAAW)

by having multiple graphs, making explicit where/how they connect.     (1R2AAAX)

[10:07] Ali Hashemi: @Amanda and Arturo - I think we're also aiming to be able to at least annotate     (1R2AAAY)

some of the output of the current summit with the vocabulary that is developed as a result of     (1R2AAAZ)

ontology of ontology evaluation hackathon     (1R2AAAAA)

[10:07] Ali Hashemi: So, I would imagine that some subset of it will be realized on the PSMW     (1R2AAAAB)

[10:08] Amanda Vizedom: @Ali - thanks for pointing out, yes. Some of that will, I hope, happen     (1R2AAAAC)

through use our outputs in the summit PSMW     (1R2AAAAD)

[10:13] Ali Hashemi: @Amanda, but yes, fully on board that we should put off the formal     (1R2AAAAE)

representation until we have a better understanding of what we can model informally.     (1R2AAAAF)

[10:47] Amanda Vizedom: Post-note re: something I didn't make clear in the HC-05 presentation -- The     (1R2AAAAG)

requirements gathering is done partly to feed the model building, but also to practice what we     (1R2AAAAH)

preach -- requirements as basis of evaluation. It is my intention to do, and document, evaluation of     (1R2AAAAI)

the resulting ontology. Specific will be based on (a) requirements gathered, and (b) tools available     (1R2AAAAJ)

for the KR language we use.     (1R2AAAAK)

[10:50] Amanda Vizedom: (what I just described may not fit within hackathon weekend, however)     (1R2AAAAL)

[9:50] Peter P. Yim: == Anatoly Levenchuk presenting ... see: the [ HC-06-Levenchuk-Agroskin ] slides     (1R2AAAAM)

[10:00] Peter P. Yim: @anonymous - please click on "settings" (top center) and morph from "anonymous" to     (1R2AAAAN)

your RealName (in WikiWord format) ... many thanks     (1R2AAAAO)

[10:04] Peter P. Yim: == Joanne Luciano presenting ... see: the [ HC-02-Luciano ] slides     (1R2AAAAP)

[10:13] Peter P. Yim: == Ali Hashemi presenting ... see: the [ HC-04a-Hashemi-Vegetti ] slides     (1R2AAAAQ)

[10:15] Peter P. Yim: ICOM : Integrated Collaboration Object Model (correction - ref. slide#2) ...     (1R2AAAAR)

[slides already updated. --ppy]     (1R2AAAAS)

[10:20] David Whitten: I assume a[[TrackCommunitInput]] Space on slide 9 should be a[[TrackCommunityInput]]     (1R2AAAAT)

Space ... [slides already updated. --ppy]     (1R2AAAAU)

[10:29] Ali Hashemi: @David, yes, thanks for catching the typo     (1R2AAAAV)

[10:21] anonymous1 morphed into Francesca Quattri     (1R2AAAAW)

[10:23] Arturo Sanchez: @AliHashemi: If I understand what you are saying correctly: the OntologPSMW     (1R2AAAAX)

is an application of PSMW ... so which ontology will your project evaluate the application ontology     (1R2AAAAY)

(associated with OntologPSMW) or the "foundational ontology" (the one associated with PSMW)? Thanks!     (1R2AAAAZ)

[10:27] Ali Hashemi: @Arturo - I'm participating on two distinct projects, with one (the website)     (1R2AAAAAA)

hoping to use the results of the other (Ontology of Ontology Evaluation). What I just presented was     (1R2AAAAAB)

with the website hat on. They're distinct projects. Does this answer your question?     (1R2AAAAAC)

[10:24] Peter P. Yim: @Arturo - some answers to your question coming up in the next (KenBaclawski's)     (1R2AAAAAD)

presentation     (1R2AAAAAE)

[10:25] Peter P. Yim: == Ken Baclawski presenting ... see: the [ HC-04b-Baclawski ] slides     (1R2AAAAAF)

[10:25] Arturo Sanchez: @Peter: Thanks!     (1R2AAAAAG)

[10:41] Arturo Sanchez: @KenBaclawski: the web pages that are generated, are they static pages only?     (1R2AAAAAH)

(I was wondering if the translator will play a role akin to that of JSP, ASP, etc.)     (1R2AAAAAI)

[10:55] Ken Baclawski: @Arturo: The generated web pages have behavior associated with them. The form     (1R2AAAAAJ)

pages, for example, have input boxes and checklists. The template pages define semantic properties     (1R2AAAAAK)

that are used by other pages, such as the forms that use the template.     (1R2AAAAAL)

[10:58] Arturo Sanchez: @KenBaclawski: Thanks! ... I was wondering if the ontology and associated     (1R2AAAAAM)

translator represent an alternative to more complex frameworks such as JEE or ASP.NET ...     (1R2AAAAAN)

[10:59] Arturo Sanchez: @KenBaclawski: (based on just HTML5 ... for instance)     (1R2AAAAAO)

[11:05] Ken Baclawski: @Arturo: Wikis in general are an alternative to the more complex frameworks.     (1R2AAAAAP)

Of course, PSMW does not support all of the features of the other frameworks, but it is a lot     (1R2AAAAAQ)

simpler and has support for RDF triples.     (1R2AAAAAR)

[11:11] Arturo Sanchez: @KenBaclawski: Yes, I agree ... Thanks     (1R2AAAAAS)

[10:54] David Whitten: As I understand it Purple Numbers provide a fine-grain reference down to a     (1R2AAAAAT)

paragraph level rather than just to a page level. Does that mean that URLs on PSMW include a purple     (1R2AAAAAU)

number as a part of the URL reference?     (1R2AAAAAV)

[added-later] Peter P. Yim: @DavidWhitten: you are correct, PSMW supports Purple Numbers and will feature     (1R2AAAAAW)

that as a part of the URL reference     (1R2AAAAAX)

[10:31] Peter P. Yim: == Joel Bender presenting ... see: the [ HC-01-Bender ] slides     (1R2AAAAAY)

[10:40] Arturo Sanchez: @JoelBender: slide 7 you said you are mapping to .NET types?     (1R2AAAAAZ)

[10:51] Joel Bender: @Arturo - no, these are not .NET types, they have similar characteristics, and     (1R2AAAAAAA)

there are BACnet stack implementations that use .NET, but there is nothing in the standard that     (1R2AAAAAAB)

describes its components using .NET terminology.     (1R2AAAAAAC)

[10:42] JeffBraswell: Joel -- side note: doesn't IPV6 address some of the component/device     (1R2AAAAAAD)

addressing issue ?     (1R2AAAAAAE)

[10:48] Joel Bender: @Jeff - not really, there is very little expectation that very small, power and     (1R2AAAAAAF)

bandwidth constrained devices will be able to implement an IPv6 stack. It does help with scale, in     (1R2AAAAAAG)

theory there could be a lot more devices that are considered "peers" and and communicate directly to     (1R2AAAAAAH)

each other, but in practice there isn't enough experience with it to know.     (1R2AAAAAAI)

[10:43] Amanda Vizedom: @Joel: re: Network of things issues - Indeed, ontologized BACnet could,     (1R2AAAAAAJ)

possibly, enable such folks to take advantage of the substantial work on semantic sensor networks,     (1R2AAAAAAK)

[10:55] Arturo Sanchez: @JoelBender: thanks ... so, have you defined a formalism that defines these     (1R2AAAAAAM)

types, using which mappings can be built to various platforms? (For instance, this would enable the     (1R2AAAAAAN)

development of applications that read information generated by sensors in the building, which target     (1R2AAAAAAO)

specific operating systems)     (1R2AAAAAAP)

[11:01] Joel Bender: @Arturo - it is up to the library developer to understand how to present BACnet     (1R2AAAAAAQ)

stuff (objects, properties and services) to the application developer which is going to be platform     (1R2AAAAAAR)

specific. For example, there are libraries in C for embedded systems development, I have authored an     (1R2AAAAAAS)

open-source library in Python, there is another in Java (someplace), and there are commercial     (1R2AAAAAAT)

libraries for Windows developers.     (1R2AAAAAAU)

[11:05] Doug Foxvog: @Arturo: SUMO has an ontology for features and functions of web pages .     (1R2AAAAAAV)

[11:05] Arturo Sanchez: @DougFoxvog: thanks ...     (1R2AAAAAAW)

[11:06] Joel Bender: @Arturo - there is a portion of the standard called "web services" which is     (1R2AAAAAAX)

SOAP, which is as close to an API that is in the standard. Believe it or not, that web services API     (1R2AAAAAAY)

is only loosely bound to the objects and properties in the rest of the standard, for political     (1R2AAAAAAZ)

reasons - there was pressure to get something published because the committee was battling the     (1R2AAAAAAAA)

noosphere with other organizations.     (1R2AAAAAAAB)

[11:08] Arturo Sanchez: @JoelBender: Yes, I can imagine that ... anyway, the problem of     (1R2AAAAAAAC)

interconnecting heterogeneous representations of data types is of course well known (e.g., XDR     (1R2AAAAAAAD)

from--the then--Sun Microsystems, and more recently JVM and CLI). So, I was wondering if some of     (1R2AAAAAAAE)

this knowledge was reused in your ptoject.     (1R2AAAAAAAF)

[11:10] Joel Bender: @ArturoSanchez: That is compounded by the problem that BACnet defines data types     (1R2AAAAAAAG)

that don't map well into anything - specifically Date and Time which can contain wildcard values     (1R2AAAAAAAH)

used for scheduling.     (1R2AAAAAAAI)

[11:12] Arturo Sanchez: @JoelBender: Thanks ...     (1R2AAAAAAAJ)

[10:43] Peter P. Yim: == Mike Bennett presenting ... see: the [ HC-03-Bennett ] slides     (1R2AAAAAAAK)

[10:44] David Whitten: What does FIBO stand for?     (1R2AAAAAAAL)

[10:45] JeffBraswell: Financial Industry Business Ontology     (1R2AAAAAAAM)

[10:49] Michael Grüninger: I need to leave now -- all of these projects are fantastic! I'm really     (1R2AAAAAAAN)

looking forward to the results.     (1R2AAAAAAAO)

[10:50] Doug Foxvog: Re OOPS! Pitfall #13 (Slide 7). Depending on one's model, one may want inverse     (1R2AAAAAAAP)

relations -- or wish not to have inverse relationships because they provide two different ways to     (1R2AAAAAAAQ)

make the same statement.     (1R2AAAAAAAR)

[10:54] MariaPovedaVillalon: @DougFoxvog, yes, that's is why we do not call the pitfalls "errors"     (1R2AAAAAAAS)

they are not always. It is just meant to "remind" developers that they might have forgotten to     (1R2AAAAAAAT)

include an inverse, if they want to, otherwise, they can just ignore some output items. Indeed in     (1R2AAAAAAAU)

the RESTful WebService one can choose which pitfalls you want to check     (1R2AAAAAAAV)

[10:54] MariaPovedaVillalon: also we are working in that selection in the online application     (1R2AAAAAAAW)

[11:01] Doug Foxvog: @Maria: In the case that your policy is NOT to have inverse relationships,     (1R2AAAAAAAX)

having them would be a pitfall which could be added to OOPS!. Perhaps the user could inform the tool     (1R2AAAAAAAY)

of such choices.     (1R2AAAAAAAZ)

[11:04] MariaPovedaVillalon: @doug thanks for the idea, for my To-Do list...     (1R2AAAAAAAAA)

[11:05] Mike Bennett: @Doug that sounds like a good area for us to explore.     (1R2AAAAAAAAB)

[11:04] Peter P. Yim: == Till Mossakowski presenting ... see: the [ HC-07-Mossakowski ] slides     (1R2AAAAAAAAC)

[11:12] Peter P. Yim: Till Mossakowski: errata on slide#4 - "github.com" (not "github.org") ... [link     (1R2AAAAAAAAD)

will automatically redirect, though. --ppy]     (1R2AAAAAAAAE)

[11:10] Matthew West: Sorry, I have to go now.     (1R2AAAAAAAAF)

[11:10] Peter P. Yim: thanks, Matthew     (1R2AAAAAAAAG)

[11:13] Peter P. Yim: == Ken Baclawski presenting on behalf of the H-C co-champions ... see: the [     (1R2AAAAAAAAH)

1-Chair ] slides     (1R2AAAAAAAAI)

[11:12] Joanne Luciano: do we have a sense about whether our proposed hackathons will be viable? i     (1R2AAAAAAAAJ)

see only a few people signed up to help and many many of us looking for help.     (1R2AAAAAAAAK)

[11:14] Joanne Luciano: BTW, I just posted info about the hackathon on the public-sem-hclsig mailing     (1R2AAAAAAAAL)

[11:15] JeffBraswell: @Joanne I'm liking 'hackathon' :)     (1R2AAAAAAAAN)

[11:16] JeffBraswell: But I'm thinking "ontothon"     (1R2AAAAAAAAO)

[11:19] Joanne Luciano: @Jeff LOL -- one can only hope! It's actually a pretty good term now that you     (1R2AAAAAAAAP)

bring my attention to it.     (1R2AAAAAAAAQ)

[11:16] Arturo Sanchez: @[[AllWhoKnow]]: sorry to ask ... will the Hackathon-Clinics take place this     (1R2AAAAAAAAR)

Saturday and Sunday (3/30/2013 and 3/31/13)?     (1R2AAAAAAAAS)

[11:19] Ali Hashemi: @Arturo, I believe these slides just answered you question     (1R2AAAAAAAAT)

[11:20] Arturo Sanchez: @AliHashemi: Thanks, you just beat me to my "I stand corrected" statement!     (1R2AAAAAAAAU)

[11:19] Amanda Vizedom: @Arturo - schedule here:     (1R2AAAAAAAAV)

[11:21] Arturo Sanchez: @Amanda: thank you, Amanda ...     (1R2AAAAAAAAX)

[11:19] Ali Hashemi: @Ken, I believe, "Saturday 11 April 2013 (Day-3)" should read "Saturday 13 April     (1R2AAAAAAAAY)

[11:19] Peter P. Yim: Ken Baclawski: errata - slide#7 - Day-3 is 13-Apr-2013 (not Apr-11) ... [slides     (1R2AAAAAAAAAA)

already updated. --ppy]     (1R2AAAAAAAAAB)

[11:20] Peter P. Yim: == Q&A and Open Discussion ...     (1R2AAAAAAAAAC)

[11:22] Dennis Wisnosky: The FIBO project is to eval the potential of the tools, not to eval FIBO.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAD)

Pls change your slide.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAE)

[11:23] David Whitten: Joanne, where will you have cookies? GRIN     (1R2AAAAAAAAAF)

[11:24] Doug Foxvog: Everyone gets cookies! ... just look inside your web browser. 8)#     (1R2AAAAAAAAAG)

[11:24] Arturo Sanchez: @DougFoxvog: Ha! (good one!)     (1R2AAAAAAAAAH)

[11:30] Doug Foxvog: This system does not correctly create my smiley: 8 )# -- it shows my beard.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAJ)

[11:24] David Whitten: They're just binary encoded, not chocolate chip encoded...     (1R2AAAAAAAAAK)

[11:25] Joanne Luciano: Come to Rensselaer!!!! Troy, NY. I'll have beer afterwards too!     (1R2AAAAAAAAAL)

[11:27] Joanne Luciano: @Doug -- I had made that comment to JamesMichaelis- for the online     (1R2AAAAAAAAAM)

participants. For the local ones, cookies like the ones that can be measured in Kcal.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAN)

[11:29] Leo Obrst: Great planned efforts, folks! Good luck to all.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAO)

[11:29] Joanne Luciano: WOO HOO!!!! (who was is that speaking?) ... [that was Joel Bender saying that     (1R2AAAAAAAAAP)

he plans to join in at the Ontology-of-Ontology-Evaluation and the GOEF-iChoose projects during the     (1R2AAAAAAAAAQ)

hackathon --ppy]     (1R2AAAAAAAAAR)

[11:30] Joanne Luciano: Joel! What kind of cookies do you like?     (1R2AAAAAAAAAS)

[11:30] Amanda Vizedom: @Joel - we'd be happy to have you     (1R2AAAAAAAAAU)

[11:30] Joel Bender: heh - Ithaca isn't that far from Troy     (1R2AAAAAAAAAV)

[11:30] Mike Dean: Registration (either onsite or remote) is now open for the     (1R2AAAAAAAAAW)

OntologySummit2013_Symposium at NIST - Thu & Fri May 2~3, 2013 (Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA) - see     (1R2AAAAAAAAAX)

(registration for onsite attendance is mandatory ... so note the Apr-22 registration deadline!)     (1R2AAAAAAAAAZ)

[11:31] Peter P. Yim: Again, soliciting help from everyone here: -- for software environment stewards     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAA)

and tool developers, please make sure you participate in the upcoming survey ---and help us get     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAB)

these colleagues of yours to respond to the survey too:     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAC)

stewards of relevant software tools/systems/environments so we can reach out to them     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAE)

[11:31] Ali Hashemi: thank you all.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAF)

[11:31] Samir Tartir: Thank you all.     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAG)

[11:31] Francesca Quattri: remote participation great idea, thank you all     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAH)

[11:32] Peter P. Yim: great session!     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAJ)

[11:31] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 11:31 am PDT --     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAK)

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --     (1R2AAAAAAAAAAL)

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For the record ...     (1S7)

How To Join (while the session is in progress)     (1T)

Attention: Please take special note on the start time of the event, as the US will be on daylight saving (summer) time on this day, while the EU is still on standard (winter) time!     (1T4)

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    • Skype: joinconference (i.e. make a skype call to the contact with skypeID="joinconference") ... (generally free-of-charge, when connecting from your computer)     (1T5D2)
      • when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#     (1T5D2A)
      • Unfamiliar with how to do this on Skype? ...     (1T5D2B)
        • Add the contact "joinconference" to your skype contact list first. To participate in the teleconference, make a skype call to "joinconference", then open the dial pad (see platform-specific instructions below) and enter the Conference ID: 141184# when prompted.     (1T5D2B1)
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    • people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the slides above (where applicable) and running them locally. The speaker(s) will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk.     (1T5E3)
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    • thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) summit_20130124@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices!     (1T5F3)
  • Discussions and Q & A:     (1T5G)
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    • we will usually save all questions and discussions till after all presentations are through. You are encouraged to jot down questions onto the chat-area in the mean time (that way, they get documented; and you might even get some answers in the interim, through the chat.)     (1T5G3)
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  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.     (1T5K)

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